Hey Mike any way you will ever stock Leptigen in 40-50 servings so we don't have to throw a Franklin at you everytime we need some?

Only if Avant releases it in that size

'LeptiGhetto' will be out in ~ 1 Month.

So is it really worth $100?. Thats a lot of cash to pay for a single supplement!. The only Avant product I have tried is Absolved. It has't done much for me...It was only $20 so its not a that much of a risk. For $100 though, I would want a guarentee(sp.)...

In my opinion, it's worth it. It's high, but you're getting quite a bit, and the product itself is just incredible. As far as the guarantee, I believe Avant offers a refund on anything they sell - check their website for more details. That may apply to just products sold from their site, but I'll look into that more for you in a bit.

In certain situations it's definitely worth the money, although unfortunately I'm one of those who can't afford it for continuous use.

The cost is rough, but-- honestly-- I feel incomplete without my morning dose of Leptigen, and I honestly consider it to be one of the top five legal/OTC/non-hormonal-or-steroidal dietary supplements of all time.


The Loki Supplement Hierarchy/Rankings:

1. E/C
2. Creatine
3. Fish Oil
4. Whey Protein
5. Leptigen

Honorable Mentions:

- Nicotine
- Acetyl-L-Carnitine
- LipoDerm-ULTRA

If you are low on cash then other supplements should definitely take precedence. Leptigen should be most important during severe caloric deprivation/very low bodyfat. One thing to note though, is that it is an excellent supplement from a general health perspective - in fact this would be my main reason for taking it. It has many benefits other than just on body comp.

what is in leptigen?

In addition to what has already been mentioned, another good use would be as a replacement for someone who uses a lot of the ingredients found in the product -- i.e. someone who buys 8-10 of the ingredients in bulk from Mike or other bulk shops (and, certainly if they buy brand names of this stuff in caps).

If one tried to put the formula together from a bulk shop, it would cost more than the $75 we charge if you buy 3 bottles from us. And, of course, this is flavored and the ingredient are in the ratios are as I saw fit in my infinite wisdom and knowledge

Our refund is just for direct purchase from us.

Also of note, we have 3 new LeptiGen formulas, which we will start taking pre-orders for on Monday (betas) -- and, the final versions should be shipping within 2-3 weeks of that (assuming the betas do not sell out), and these will all be available to our retailer as wholesale prices.

Original LeptiGen will still primarily be available only from us, until we can afford to buy like 200 kilos of most of the 40 or so ingredients and do a huge run to get our costs down enough to have decent profit margins for middle men, without going to a $150-200 MSRP. This is probably like 6 months away.