Thanks, Ronn. I appreciate your kind words and advice. You are right: 5 pounds a year of solid LBM is/was good progress for me before attempting any kind of PH/PS cycle, so I am very happy with the kind of gains I was able to generate in these two "underdosed" cycles.

I am about a week post-PCT and I am finding it a bit difficult to keep up my eating to maintain cals for my new bigger self. It was a cinch to have a massive appetite while on PHs, even during PCT, but I now find that I really have to force-feed myself sometimes to get as many protein/cals as I used to get while on PHs. But this is no biggie, of course. Oh wow, cry me a river, I have to force food down my throat.

I felt alright with my two PCT trials with 6OXO alone and with 6OXO and Nolva. There has been some discussion about combining SERMs (Nolva) and aromatase inhibitors (6OXO) for optimal results. I have not heard or read too many things about how 7OXO is helpful in PCT. Do you know how it works and why it might be helpful in relation to just taking 6OXO?

Thanks again for your advice and kind words.

R-i-g-h-t. Did you read this entire thread? For someone who just subscribed to this forum yesterday what right and privileged information do you have to think that the results I posted here is "full of sheet"?

I do not think this is a very helpful or informative post. I do welcome feedback and suggestions so please do articulate why you think I am "full of sheet."

I believe you are correct there. 1-Test is more androgenic and suppressive than M1T is I think. Generally, 17-alkylation reduces androgen character with few exceptions.

That's kind of uncalled for IMO. While Victory's results are certainly not ordinary, they are not impossible. I have gained as much as 10lbs in a single week before on previous cycles. I gained 18lbs in 3 weeks on my first one. If you have the right mix of diet, training, and genetics (and steroids or PH of course) it is definitely possible to gain 8 lbs a week for two weeks; I've seen it happen more than once.

Thanks, James. Note also that these 'unusual' gains came from my very first ever PH cycle. My 2nd PH cycle "only" put on 5.5 pounds in 2 weeks. I suppose that qualifies as being "less full of sheet" for joe29811 (whatever that means).

Definitely congrats on the results of your first 2 cycles and anyone that put you down is either jealous or doesn't know what they are really talking about. You have obvious done alot of reading and research and it has obvious paid off.

Thanks, Lawn30177. Best wishes on your development too!

Thanks Victory!

Have you thought of using Tribulus at all with 6OXO on your PCT?

Yes, actually. I don't think it did much for me, over and above what I already got from 6OXO. It might work for others, though. Some people suspect that tribulus might cause suppression as well -- however mild compared to PHs -- so be warned that this runs against what we are trying to do in PCT.

Thanks for your question, RevLloydCarroll. I am not quite sure how to address it properly because...

1. I can give you the details of my workout plan when I followed a 2on/2off cycle with 1AD/6OXO, but if you judge my workout to be "more efficient" than yours and you end up changing your stuff around as you add the 1AD/6OXO into the mix...

2. ... How will you know if the results you get, if any, are from the 1AD/6OXO cycle or from the change in workout?

That being said, if you allow a sufficient amount of time for your body to get somewhat used to one or two changes before you add on another component, then you should be fine. After 14 years of working out, I've found that the best "bulking" cycle for me would be:

a.) Weight training workouts 3 times a week, no more than 1 hour per workout, no more than 3 exercises per bodypart, no more than 6 sets total per bodypart, 4 sets for smaller muscles. I work each bodypart no more than two times a week. I need only work legs once a week (otherwise I go into overtraining).

b.) HIIT cardio, 10-15 minutes 2-3 times a week just to stave off fat accumulation.

This is basically the workout plan I followed to generate the kind of gains I got from my first two PH cycles as described in this thread. There will be some differing opinions about this, others advocating higher volumes of training while on PH's, but I also tried this and found that it limited my gains. I guess my body is built for shorter, more high intensity workouts (although I rarely carry more than one set to balls-to-the-wall failure per bodypart).

You've got to figure out what works for you both in terms of diet and training before you add on the PH's; once you get your diet and training down pat, the PH's can really help provide a kick in terms of progress and development. But if your diet and training isn't in order, the results you'll get from PH's will probably be mediocre at best.

It looks like you're on your way in terms of figuring out what works for you, given the smart questions you are asking. Good luck and I hope this helps!

Good luck with your efforts! You were certainly strong and probably still have a good base using which you can build a phenomenal physique. I think your gradual and patient approach to PH/PS's will yield much greater gains down the line as you acquire more knowledge about training and diet and how your body might respond to different compounds. Let us know how things go!

Thanks, bitmask. I took in between 3,800 to 4,000 calories per day while on cycle (the variance is due to different meals my wife would prepare).