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Posted: Mar 22 2004, 12:00 PM
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Stats: 28, 5.7', 195 lbs, 16.9 % BF

SO far one week into my cycle of M1T..just added 4 AD a couple days ago...taking creatine, Pro Liver, ALA, Pro Prostate and Hot Rox.

M!T sides cramping under lower left pec and sore lower back sometimes..Very moody.

4AD...gives me incrediable energy, BP raise a lot though..couple nose bleeds...don't like stickiness..throat iches after using sometimes.

Now one week: 202 lbs, 16.6 % BF..Add update in a couple of days.


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Posted: Mar 22 2004, 02:51 PM
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do you notice any bloat?

nice results
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Posted: Mar 22 2004, 04:46 PM
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YUP!! I am bloated.
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Posted: Mar 22 2004, 05:00 PM
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i hope you get HUGE! peace out
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Posted: Mar 22 2004, 06:40 PM
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good luck with the cycle

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Posted: Mar 23 2004, 11:18 AM
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Thanks for all the encouragement guys. You rock!!!

So far no huge strength gains...but as you can see I gained 7 pounds of muscle and some water I am sure and my endurance has gone through the roof.

I use to only be able to do 315 lbs on bench 3 sets of 6 reps...now I am doing 3 x 10...but my max didn't jump up too much. I will post a new update on weight this Thursday.
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Posted: Mar 24 2004, 10:15 PM
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Posted: Mar 26 2004, 01:32 AM
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From reading posts here and abroad I believe i am an anomolie. Most everyone states they have lethargy and a drop in sex drive.
I'm not tired at all. For the first wk or two i had trouble sleeping consistantly. I am using some 5 htp or something like that (too lazy to get the bottle) and it has helped.
My diet has remained the same, protein, creatine etc. The only introduction i've had is the M1T and skulpt. A bad work and home schedule screwed some things up but overall i'm sold on M1T as a "natural" supplement.
I had no sex drive before i started. ( don't ask but a previous 8wk comsumption killed my sex drive)
I'm frisky all the time, the pumps are great and i'm seeing a minor increase in strength. I am a little bloated, but i'm a bit high on carbs and my diet last week sucked.
Really it is one of the few OTC that i have found that worked.
I will continue to get M1T from Mike, take it as a sales pitch but i'm satisfied with it.
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Posted: Mar 29 2004, 11:38 AM
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Update:

2.5 weeks in...weighted 204 @ 16.7 % BF. Weight gain slowing down.

Yeh...I haven't lost my sex drive either and I also am not to lethargic. I am starting to brake out in acne a bit more. My pumps don't hurt that much either.

So that makes a total of 9 pounds gained in 2 weeks. Also, as a side note I have never been able to brake 200 lbs no matter what I took. This sh*t works. Giving me terrible heart burn though.
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Posted: Apr 2 2004, 01:51 PM
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UPDATE:

3 weeks in M1T/4AD........206 @ 16.6 % BF...put on 11 pds. so far.
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Posted: Apr 5 2004, 01:23 PM
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Justin, I am about to start a cycle of M1T also. I would love to see your specific routine. Everything you are taking, dosages etc.. and also what your pct plans are. Great job by the way.
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Posted: Apr 5 2004, 09:07 PM
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Hey Justin, you never said (or I likely missed) the amount of M1T you are taking on this cycle.
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Posted: Apr 6 2004, 04:02 PM
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Hi all,

I stopped the cycle after 3 weeks, I was going to go for 4 weeks but decided to cut it short with positive results: Ending at 206 @ 16.6%, 11 pds gained.

Reasons stopped: Acne started to flare up (What good are muscles if you can't show them off)...back got real sore..liver enzymes we're slowly rising (nothing bad though).

To give specifics here you go:

Week 1: M1T 15 mg, Pro liver, RLA, Sili
Week 2: M1T 20 mg, 300 mg 4AD transderemally (really helpd with sex drive and lethargic feeling) and pro liver, sili, RLA, 10 mg of Nolv
Week 3: M1T 25 mg, 300 mg 4AD trans, 900 mg 4AD pill, 20 mg of Nolv

Going to start a PCT cycle now for 2 weeks, I will let you knoiw if I maintain what I accomplished. As stated above the reason I stopped was due to acne flare up (but I am paranoid)..plus..my gains were slowing down.

I took a ton of liver enzymes to protect my liver it worked and did not seem to decrease the effectivness of M1T.
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Posted: Apr 6 2004, 05:38 PM
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Congrats! Great results. We are more or less similar in terms of size (height, pre- and post-cycle weight; I just have a bit of lower bodyfat). Let us know how your post-cycle therapy turns out. I used 6OXO for PCT and it worked well. Details of my first PH cycle here (although I used 1-AD and not M1T):

Feedback from my first PH cycle

Hope the acne dies down! Vit. B5 helped me out on that front.
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Posted: Apr 7 2004, 06:47 AM
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Good cycle. I'll be interested to see how it turns out after PCT. Keep us informed.
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Posted: Apr 7 2004, 10:28 AM
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Just to let everyone know...the bloat i had stopped the next day.

Started my PCT cycle a couple days ago: Here is the plan.

Week 1: 600 mg 6OXO, 3000 mg of Tribex, creatine 20 mg
Week 2: 400 mg 6OXO, 3000 mg of Tribex, creatine 15 mg

I will post an update soon.

Also the tribex..sucks.,,doesn't seem to work.

Hey victory, thanks for the response..looks like you made awesome gains from such a little amount of PH, that's GREAT. Wish it worked like that for me, I have a tolerance now though. SO how does B5 help with acne, I have used Prostate support stuuf to make sure the Test doesn't covert to DHT but how does B5 work? Just curious.


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Posted: May 4 2004, 02:42 PM
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OPPS..I forgot to keep you guys informed..

But to my disappointment most of the weight gained was water weight. 4 weeks later and 3 weeks off of my PCT and I have kept about 3 lbs of the 11 lbs gained.

The reason I know it was mostly water weight is i dropped 4 pounds in one day...muscle doesn't degrade that fast. I was like WHAT THE F(*&?

For the nest cycle I am goign to try only 5 mg for a bit longer..maybe I won't get any sides. I noticed the sides exponential increased the higher the dose. Weeks 3 was unbearable.
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Posted: May 4 2004, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (Justin18951 @ Apr 7 2004, 10:28 AM)
Hey victory, thanks for the response..looks like you made awesome gains from such a little amount of PH, that's GREAT. Wish it worked like that for me, I have a tolerance now though. SO how does B5 help with acne, I have used Prostate support stuuf to make sure the Test doesn't covert to DHT but how does B5 work? Just curious.

Sorry about the late response, Justin18951. I believe shpongled has an article in this forum about how B5 might work. Search for it under Pantothenic Acid in the articles. It won't work for everyone, but it worked for me.
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Posted: May 4 2004, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Justin18951 @ May 4 2004, 02:42 PM)
OPPS..I forgot to keep you guys informed..

But to my disappointment most of the weight gained was water weight. 4 weeks later and 3 weeks off of my PCT and I have kept about 3 lbs of the 11 lbs gained.

The reason I know it was mostly water weight is i dropped 4 pounds in one day...muscle doesn't degrade that fast. I was like WHAT THE F(*&?

For the nest cycle I am goign to try only 5 mg for a bit longer..maybe I won't get any sides. I noticed the sides exponential increased the higher the dose. Weeks 3 was unbearable.

I am sorry to hear about this, Justin18951. I have read a lot of accounts of people losing most of the weight they gained while on M1T. I am not sure why this happens. Perhaps the subsequent catabolic environment caused by shutdown requires longer PCT, relative to "milder" compounds like 1AD (even if technically M1T seems to act like a more potent version of 1AD/1-test)?

Or perhaps you lowered your calories during PCT and post-PCT? Or upped your cardio? Any other variable that might have changed in your regimen?

I will be trying M1T in a few months and will see how much of my gains I actually retain. On my end I finished up my 2nd PH cycle with 1AD/4AD and kept all my gains, all this despite fighting off colds by the tail end of the cycle. I have kept my calories up, though, and am doing the base minimum amount of cardio I feel my body needs. I am giving my body at least 4 weeks to get used to its new larger dimensions before I begin a cutting cycle in June.
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Posted: May 5 2004, 12:57 AM
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The one M1T cycle I ran I took a little potassium and cranberry extract to keep the water weight off during the cycle. Seemed to help in keeping the gains in muscle only. Specially with all the water I drank during the cycle.
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