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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 03:45 PM
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I just purchased some V12 creatine i heard it was pretty good stuff but its kinda expensive i have some creatine serum left over about 4 bottles they have expired
would it be a bad idea to take the serum in the morning and the V12 only be for i work out or should i just stay with the V12 iam also taking s1+
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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (kane @ Feb 9 2004, 03:45 PM)
I just purchased some V12 creatine i heard it was pretty good stuff but its kinda expensive i have some creatine serum left over about 4 bottles they have expired
would it be a bad idea to take the serum in the morning and the V12 only be for i work out or should i just stay with the V12 iam also taking 1s+

I would say whatever works better for you, V12 or creatine, would benefit you more while on S1+, just my opinion, not too sure on the subject matter. wink.gif

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (kane @ Feb 9 2004, 03:45 PM)
would it be a bad idea to take the serum in the morning and the V12 only be for i work out or should i just stay with the V12 iam also taking s1+

It would be a bad idea. All that time taking serum in the morning could be better used for activities like...watching the grass grow. The stuffs useless. V12 is solid though.
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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (abaddon @ Feb 9 2004, 03:54 PM)
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would it be a bad idea to take the serum in the morning and the V12 only be for i work out or should i just stay with the V12 iam also taking s1+

It would be a bad idea. All that time taking serum in the morning could be better used for activities like...watching the grass grow. The stuffs useless. V12 is solid though.

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 04:03 PM
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There is about as much creatine in the creatine serum as there is in those o' so tasty soy burgers.

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 04:26 PM
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Yeah that creatine serum expired the day it went into the bottle.

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 05:12 PM
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Yes, let the record reflect that:

- Creatine is NOT stable in any sort of solution, which makes buying ANY suspension of creatine a patent waste of your $. Furthermore ANY company that is selling any form of liquified creatine does not deserve your business...

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 08:00 PM
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what would you guys suggest if creatine doesnt respond to you... v-12, swole, or swole v2? or anything else?

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 08:11 PM
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V12, swole, and Satur8 seem to be three of the best creatine products out there, especially for non-responders. As you probably know, they tout these products for just that: non-responders.

Another thing you may want to keep an eye out for are the kre-alkalyn products. Black Star Labs puts out one (Kreataine), and I'm sure it'll catch on even more (I can just see it now: Kre-Tech).

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QUOTE (Jay-Win @ Feb 9 2004, 08:00 PM)
what would you guys suggest if creatine doesnt respond to you... v-12, swole, or swole v2? or anything else?

My opinion on these products: They may be good, but it is not because they are creatine products. Same goes for buffered creatine. As I explain in the glycocyamine article, the limiting step in the effectiveness of creatine is creatine transport to muscle; there is no reason to try to increase bioavailability in the gut, and so on. That isn't even an issue. So there's no way to create a "better" creatine, unless you increase creatine transport to muscle, which these products don't do.

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