Honestly cycledude, My opinion (Just my opinion), is to ride out this cycle with how you have it going. If your expieriencing gains, and feel okay about how the side effects are affecting you, there is no reason to increase, or throw another factor into the equasion. Being your first cycle... thats about the best route.

I know how you feel on wanting to add more... but don't let the Adonis Complex grab you. More isnt always better.

i would take the
1test
4-ad
1,4ad

if oral take
100-300mg 1-test, best dry weight gain, decreasing appetite
250-600mg 4-ad, small water gains while combating 1-t/1,4 sides
100-300mg 1,4-ad, good dry gains and appetite stimulate

Great advice guys!

I'm really impressed with the difference it makes on my rides. Stronger on hills, no lactic acid, better wind - it's actually amazing how much faster I am. I'm definitely making strength gains but I was surprised the difference it made with my cardio - I feel like Lance Armstrong! The extra work on my bad leg is really paying off with the help of these PH's.

I noticed at the gym the other day however my pumps seemed almost painful and I felt weak. Could have been a fluke but have any of you ever felt that?

So, since what I have seems to work, I won't mess with it. If I feel gains tapering off, then I guess I'll up dosages, but not add the 1-T. I can save it for future cycles
I have 2 more weeks of Testim cream so when it runs out, I'll end everything and start my PCT. Since it turns out this will be a 3 week cycle, should I consider upping things and go with "Option 2"? Still no side effects and I feel great.

Thanks,
Tim

A painful pump is definitely a common effect. I don't think it would hurt to up your dosage some.

Hello,

I have been trying to research a feasible prohormone stack for a while.
Originally I had ordered the Fizgen Cycle, but I cancelled the order as soon as I saw the advice on this site.
I have been looking into the dermabolics products...
How does this look:
1 Test 200 mg per day
4 AD 600-700 mg per day.
I was thinking about cycling three weeks on, three weeks off... using 6 OXO during the off, then another three on, three off.
Is there anything else I could add to this combo?
Should I take creatine/aminos while on this stack?
Will 6 OXO be a sufficient PCT supplement?
Im a little confused about the PCT process.
Thank you.

It's neat for me to see this thread reappear after so many months. I've done a few cycles now and have a pretty good idea how my body responds to PH's. I have to say the S1+ is great! I also liked the 4AD and 1,4andro too, but the S1+ sure made the biggest gains

I'd go for 4-5 weeks then do a full PCT with 6-OXO. I wouldn't break it up. Check out the articles at this site to learn more about PCT.

Tim

Thanks for replying...
So you wouldn't go with 1-Test and 4-Ad separately? You'd go with just S1+ alone.
The dosing looks harder to control since you need more of the 4AD than 1Test.
How did you work this out?

Yeah, I'd go with the S1+ alone. It has a good balance of 1-test and 4AD already. No messing around - just use as the bottle says. You don't need that much 4AD. 1-test as a stand alone worked well for me but the 4AD helped me get more gains I feel.

Tim