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Best PH Stack for cutting??? |
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| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 12 2004, 11:26 PM |
| What is a suggested "best" stack for PH's when on a cutting cycle? M1T? Im 29, 215 pounds, 8 percent looking for 5-6. Also this is my first cycle of PH... Thanks! |
| Posted by: weeviekins2000 Mar 12 2004, 11:37 PM |
| M1T is not a pro-hormone, and is also not good for a first-timer. |
| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 12 2004, 11:55 PM |
| Thanks for the clarification...I mispke calling M1T a PH... So for a 29 year old, 215 pound natural lifter at 8 percent bf what would be a good PH cycle to try and hit 5-6 percent while at least keeping muscle mass? Thanks in advance for helping me figure this out... |
| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 13 2004, 12:11 AM |
| Just to add more information...Ive been training for 10 years and this would be my first cycle of PH's. Im also doing a CKD diet...not sure if this would matter when looking for a cutting PH cycle. From what Ive read S1+ looks like a good place to start since it has 1-test and 4AD together transdermally... Thanks all. |
| Posted by: Geffen Mar 13 2004, 08:52 AM | ||
I'm in a similar situation and will be using Ergopharms 1-AD for a two week cutting phase. It has worked very well for me in the past. Whatever you decide to do, keep your dosages LOW to begin with. You'll more than likely do very well (good results) being a first timer. I'll keep you posted on the results over the next couple of weeks if you would like. |
| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 13 2004, 09:16 AM | ||||
That would be great, thanks Geffen. From my research it looks like Im going to go with 1AD stacked with 4AD, specifically 4DERM. Ill start with a 4 week cycle of: 600mg 1AD. Ill take 200mg 3 times a day with meals. 400mg 4AD. Apllied transdermally via 4DERM. From what Ive read it appears I want to keep the dosage of 4AD fairly low given the fact I want to cut and keep water gain as little as possible. Ill use 200mg 2 times a day taken 12 hours apart. Then 4 weeks of PCT: Week 1-2 40mg of nolva Week 2-4 20mg of nolva Any opinions on this would be greatly appreciated. Again Im looking for a good cutting PH stack... Staley |
| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 13 2004, 12:34 PM |
| Any thoughts on this stack for use during a cutting cycle? Bueller, Bueller, anyone, anyone? |
| Posted by: Max32 Mar 13 2004, 08:22 PM |
| Read up on the PH articles attached at the bottom of this page. my advice: transdermals: S1 or S1+ (personally not a fan of 4ad, so I would stay from it for possible water retention issues) orals: -syntrax sauce 1-t (probobly best non methylated version of 1-test IMHO) -4-HT and 4-OHN -1,4 ad I plan on running a stack of hydroxytest, sauce 1-t, and 4-OHN with maybe a little 4 test cyp for libido and lethargy issues. When I have my numbers, dosages, etc... all written up, I will be sure to post it up for anyone who is interested. |
| Posted by: Loki Mar 13 2004, 10:51 PM |
| Did my message get relayed to you?? |
| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 13 2004, 11:30 PM |
| Sure didnt Loki... If you want PM me at Lyle's board...Im KC_Pike there or if you want just post here? |
| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 13 2004, 11:37 PM | ||
Thanks Max, much appreciated. Yeah I was concerned about the issue of water retention given the fact that Im cutting right now... When you have the details of your stack written up I would love to see. Ive read up as much as I can over the past few days pretty much coming up with the cycle I posted above for cutting, being new to the area of PH's its been quite an exercise trying to pull out the information I need I wish I could hire a PH personal trainer here to help guide me through this cycle If any of you experts out there wanna help me through a cycle Id appreciate it, Id make a great guniea pig given how dedicated I am to training and keeping my diet perfect... Thanks again all... |
| Posted by: Nonehere Mar 13 2004, 11:40 PM |
| Also if possible given my best guess at a cycle that I posted above...does that look ok? If so just let me know how I might want to tweak it as Id love to place my order tomorrow...Im trying to meet a contest date hence my multiple posts and general vibe of desperation  |