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Posted: Oct 13 2004, 04:20 PM
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Scorch
wondering if it is a caffeine loaded cap ?
and do u feel tired after effect were off ?

EDIT: hope it doesnt just contains heart arousing copounds . and it will be as efficient as body octane
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Posted: Oct 13 2004, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (Saber41194 @ Oct 13 2004, 04:20 PM)

Scorch
wondering if it is a caffeine loaded cap ?
and do u feel tired after effect were off ?

hope it doesnt contains heart arousing copounds . and it will be as efficient as body octane

In its category, Scorch is every bit as effective as BodyOctane. If not, more so.

Here is the supplement facts list:


Serving Size: 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 84

Amount Per Serving:

Caffeine USP: 200mg
Lean Green™ Green Tea SE (90% Catechins, 60% EGCG): 200mg
Total EGCG Per Serving: 120mg
P2™ Oolong Tea SE (30% Polymerized Pollyphenols, 10% EGCG): 200mg
Total Polymerized Polyphenols, 10% EGCG): 60mg
Total EGCG Per Serving: 20mg
Rhodiola Rosea (4% rosavins): 100mg
Olive Leaf Extract (20% Oleuropeins): 100mg
7-oxo-DHEA: 75mg
Coleus Forskholii Leaves SE (40% Forskolin): 50mg
Tyramine HCl 99%: 50mg


At the daily max dosing recommendations you get 420mg of EGCG's, 180mg of polymerized polyphenols, 60mg of Forskolin, 150mg of Tyramine, 225mg of 7-oxo, and more....

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Posted: Oct 14 2004, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (MANB2P.COM @ Oct 13 2004, 04:47 PM)
QUOTE (Saber41194 @ Oct 13 2004, 04:20 PM)

Scorch
wondering if it is a caffeine loaded cap ?
and do u feel tired after effect were off ?

hope it doesnt contains heart arousing copounds . and it will be as efficient as body octane

In its category, Scorch is every bit as effective as BodyOctane. If not, more so.

At the daily max dosing recommendations you get 420mg of EGCG's, 180mg of polymerized polyphenols, 60mg of Forskolin, 150mg of Tyramine, 225mg of 7-oxo, and more....

it is realy wize to add EGCG is the most potent antioxidant to the formula. especialy when it commes from green tea.
this a nice product. I was lokking for a product like this. that has all the litle extra to suport thermo effect

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Posted: Oct 14 2004, 02:23 PM
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How does it compare to Neurostim?
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Posted: Oct 15 2004, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (UnknowLuck23 @ Oct 14 2004, 02:23 PM)
How does it compare to Neurostim?

It doesn't. But the two stacked together would and do make the ultimate feel good preworkout boost around.

I stack the two products before my workouts, and the stack is great.

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Posted: Oct 16 2004, 09:45 AM
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my 2cents : add L-Phenylalanine to the stack : good for fat lose and mood. use it with ur daily vits/fatty acids.
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Posted: Oct 16 2004, 11:51 AM
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I asked a well-know supplement manufacturer who is known for his honesty, but expecially for his innovative and effective products (he basically invented a whole genre of supplements) what he thought about Scorch, and his exact words were, "I have never tried scorch. I see what the ingredients are and they are good basic tried and true ingredients." I also saw a post from Mike (1fast400 Mike) somewhere else, I think maybe it was bodybuilding.com, and he said he thought that Scorch will be the best fat burner on the market, and he made a point to say that he doesn't endorse many products, so that should tell you something about Scorch. I have a bottle on the way, so I'll post my results soon.

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Posted: Oct 16 2004, 11:56 AM
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Man2P, are you familiar with Avant's Leptigen Rebirth and Sesathin? Will Scorch stack well with them for fat loss? Also, can you compare Scorch against Xenadrine EFX (the "improved" one without synephrine)? I'm currently taking Xenadrine EFX along with the above Avant products and I wonder how much replacing Xenadrine with Scorch will improve the stack. My main objective is fat loss while retaining muscle. I have a bottle of Scorch on the way and I'm looking forward to trying it.

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Posted: Oct 17 2004, 05:32 PM
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Posted: Oct 18 2004, 06:18 AM
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QUOTE (earthdog @ Oct 16 2004, 11:56 AM)
Man2P, are you familiar with Avant's Leptigen Rebirth and Sesathin? Will Scorch stack well with them for fat loss? Also, can you compare Scorch against Xenadrine EFX (the "improved" one without synephrine)? I'm currently taking Xenadrine EFX along with the above Avant products and I wonder how much replacing Xenadrine with Scorch will improve the stack. My main objective is fat loss while retaining muscle. I have a bottle of Scorch on the way and I'm looking forward to trying it.

- Earthdog

Just take a look at the supplment facts and you will see that you cannot put these two products in the same league. Scorch is the anti-xenadrine.

Read up on the ingredients on the articles page of this site. David Tolson has some great articles. More importantly, look at the dosages Scorch gives you. IMO this is the best product available for fat loss.
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Posted: Oct 18 2004, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (earthdog @ Oct 16 2004, 11:56 AM)
Man2P, are you familiar with Avant's Leptigen Rebirth and Sesathin? Will Scorch stack well with them for fat loss? Also, can you compare Scorch against Xenadrine EFX (the "improved" one without synephrine)? I'm currently taking Xenadrine EFX along with the above Avant products and I wonder how much replacing Xenadrine with Scorch will improve the stack. My main objective is fat loss while retaining muscle. I have a bottle of Scorch on the way and I'm looking forward to trying it.

- Earthdog

I like the theory behind the Leptigen Series. This is something I have been doing for years...although, I never was intentially trying to modulate Leptin.

I just used to slam mega doses of BCAA's, Creatine and Vitamin, Minerals and Antioxidants to do the same thing...feed my body, but keep my calories low so I could get ultra lean.

So yes, I do think that Leptigen and Sesathin would be a nice adjunct to Scorch.

In regards to how it compares to Xenadrine, do as the other poster suggests and compare the ingredients. If you have any other questions, let me know.

I look forward to your feed back on the product.

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Posted: Oct 19 2004, 02:02 PM
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what is the suggested doseage? (trying to see how long a bottle will last)

thanks!
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Posted: Oct 19 2004, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (halebop @ Oct 19 2004, 02:02 PM)
what is the suggested doseage? (trying to see how long a bottle will last)

thanks!

The suggested dose is 4 to 6 caps daily. At 6 caps a day you really get everything you need to burn fat at the right doses. This will last you 28 days.

I do suggest starting with 1 cap, two to three times daily to access your tolerance. There is a pretty nice stimulatory effect from the product - so find out what your tolerance threshold is first before jumping right in there at the max dosing.

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QUOTE (MANB2P.COM @ Oct 18 2004, 02:56 PM)
In regards to how it compares to Xenadrine, do as the other poster suggests and compare the ingredients. If you have any other questions, let me know.

I look forward to your feed back on the product.

I looked at the ingredients and I read the relevant articles on this site. Sounds great! I just started taking it today. My first impression with it, compared to Xenadrine EFX is that it is actually THERMOGENIC - I felt very warm all day and sweat a lot. Kind of like ephedrine. ;-) Anyway, thanks for the info and I will keep you posted on the results. I took measurments this morning (skinfold, weight and waist size) so hopefully I'll have something good to report soon. If I do, I'll start another thread with my results.

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (earthdog @ Oct 19 2004, 08:42 PM)
QUOTE (MANB2P.COM @ Oct 18 2004, 02:56 PM)
In regards to how it compares to Xenadrine, do as the other poster suggests and compare the ingredients.  If you have any other questions, let me know.

I look forward to your feed back on the product.

I looked at the ingredients and I read the relevant articles on this site. Sounds great! I just started taking it today. My first impression with it, compared to Xenadrine EFX is that it is actually THERMOGENIC - I felt very warm all day and sweat a lot. Kind of like ephedrine. ;-) Anyway, thanks for the info and I will keep you posted on the results. I took measurments this morning (skinfold, weight and waist size) so hopefully I'll have something good to report soon. If I do, I'll start another thread with my results.

- Earthdog

Thanks for the feedback. That is pretty much in line with what other have reported.

BTW, how is the energy boost from it. Most people, myself included, describe it as a noticeable, but clean stimulatory effect with better focus. How about you?

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 03:48 PM
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Today was my first day taking Scorch. The stuff is Strong. It's the strongest non-ephedra fat burner I've ever used. Took 2 in the morning. Woke me right up. Felt warm all day. Only could take 1 after lunch. Recommending Starting at the low end of the rate. It should be a good product.

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Does stacking it with Guggulbolic Extreme helps? What will be an ideal supplement to stack Scorch with?
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Posted: Oct 23 2004, 08:13 AM
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If you would care to discuss details, I'm wondering why you included 7oxo in there? I know what its effects are, but in that dosage taken orally you don't get very much of it into the bloodstream. Does it work synergistically with some of the other compounds in scorch?
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QUOTE (David19562 @ Oct 23 2004, 08:13 AM)
If you would care to discuss details, I'm wondering why you included 7oxo in there? I know what its effects are, but in that dosage taken orally you don't get very much of it into the bloodstream. Does it work synergistically with some of the other compounds in scorch?

The doses of 7-oxo posted are per serving. For best results Scorch should be taken 3 times daily.

That will give you 225mg of 7-oxo per day, 200mg is pretty much the minimum IMHO you need orally for 7-oxo in order for it to produce the desired physiological effects.

That formula is designed to have effective doses of each and every compound at the recommended use. That really is the beauty of Scorch. No other product contains so many supporting compounds and the right doses in order for them to produce results.

We could of just whipped up the same compounds and put it in a proprietary blend and told you to "trust us" the product works and there is plenty of everything. We put it all on the label, geniune compounds, effective doses, at a fair price to produce a result-driven product.

Guggulbolic extreme I would save for post Scorch and I would opt for Ergolean MC as it is a more potent formula.

You may want to take advantage of the Scorch and Syneburn stack and possibly kick in some YO, if you can tolerate its systemic effects. Other than that Scorch is effective as a stand-alone, but we will be releasing a product called ON-FIRE that you would be able to use in conjunction with Scorch.

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QUOTE (Uberdude @ Oct 23 2004, 02:08 AM)
Does stacking it with Guggulbolic Extreme helps? What will be an ideal supplement to stack Scorch with?

my vote goes with sesathin

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