Capping Help |
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| Posted by: ricker Sep 18 2004, 09:35 PM |
| I just got a cap em quick size 00 with 00 caps, the tamper, and a 120z myweigh scale. It works perfect with Piracetam as each pill I capped was between 800 & 900 mg, but other powders do aren't gonna be that perfect. Do I combine more than one together and if so, which ones. This is what I have... Choline Bitartrate Alcar Vinpocetine Rhodiola Chochamine Phenibut Sulbutiamine I'd really appreciate a response from somebody with some knowlege on this. Thanks |
| Posted by: shpongled Sep 18 2004, 09:51 PM |
| I prefer to mix the ALCAR separately because it is acidic, I don't know of problems mixing the other ones together though. |
| Posted by: Steve Avila Sep 19 2004, 08:18 AM |
| Don't cap the ALCAR since you will be taking so much of it and it really doesn't taste that bad. Just swig some water after putting it in your mouth. phenibut - you do not want to take this daily or you'll lose the effect and people have reported (granted they were dosing it high) bad sides when they halted usage. So cap it separate at 500mg. I use 750mg per cap as my baseline for mixing noops. I use vitamin C as my filler but you could use Glutamine or you could use methylcellulose (Citracel). Mixing is easy. Just do the math correctly. I use a baggie to crush up the chunks and then make a pseudo balloon out of the baggie and shake the shit out of it to mix it. One thing that is nice is that I have Idebenone from BAC and it is colored orange. This makes it easy to see if I have a uniform mixture. I'm soon to start mixing a white version of this, so I'm thinking of using food coloring in my vitamin C powder to get the same effect. |
| Posted by: vasu Sep 19 2004, 10:20 AM |
| a little bit off topic... I haven't gotten around to getting a scale yet.. could you tell me how much of the Chocamine and Rhodiola you're able to get into a 00 cap, after using the tamper to compact and fill it tight? That's great to hear the Piracetam is ~800-900, that's about what i estimated. -vasu |
| Posted by: ricker Sep 20 2004, 12:36 PM |
| hey thanks for the response. By the way, I had already capped the alcar at about 800 mg per capsule. It took forever, but was worth it to me. I capped 200 pills and was planning on taking 3 per day. That would be about 2400 mg/day. As far as the Chocamine and Rhodiola, I'll let you know as soon as I cap em. Another question I have that I'll ask here instead of making a new thread for is dosage of choline bitartrate. Does it depend on how much piracetam is being used? I wanted to do an attack dose of piracetam and was planning on 8000 mg spread out during the day. How does this sound and how long should somebody do an attack dose? I've also read differing doses regarding Rhodiola. I've read people using anywhere from 1-800 mg daily. Should I just cap em and use the amount that fits into the 00 caps or should I combine it with something? I have a lot of creatine monohydrate. How's that for a filler? Thanks again |
| Posted by: ricker Sep 20 2004, 01:00 PM |
| Sorry to ask so many ??. I'm new to nootropics and even though I've spent countles hours reading about them, I'm still a little unsure on dosages and other things. I have a ton of creatine mono that I never use so I was planning on using it as filler. I find that it doesn't give me much benefit in the gym personally so I might as well use it up somehow. I know that it is supose to have some nootropic effects as well. It seems like everybody responds a little different to them, but I want to make sure to get a decent starting dose of each. This is what I plan on taking and the dosages. Let me know what you think or what you would change. Piracetam: 800mg 3xday (after attack dosage of 8000mg spread out through the day. Not sure how long to do the attack dosage. I was thinking about doing it for about 2 or 3 days) Choline Bitartrate: 7-800mg 3xday (again, I'm unsure on the dosage of this. I've seen some use only 2-400mg doses) Vinpocetine: 10mg 3xday (Can I use creatine monohydrate as a filler with this? It came in a bottle that is 90% vitamine c and 10% vinpocetine so a 100mg serving is 10mg vinpocetine) Alcar: 800mg 3xday Rhodiola: (no idea. As of right now, I'm planning on just filling the 00 caps and using that as my dosage. Definately open to suggestions) Chocamine: 800mg 3xday (This also depends on how much will fit into 00 caps. I'm guessing I can smash 800mg in there. If it's less, I might up it to 1000-1400mg 3xday) Sulbutiamine: 200mg 3xday (I am also unsure about this one. I haven't found that much info on this powder. The benefits sound great though. Any experience with this would be very helpful. I was planning on using creatine mono as filler for this also) Taurine: 1000mg pre and post workout (I don't cap this. I just take a heping 1/2 teaspoon and throw it into a shake and figure that's good enough. Caffeine/Tyrosine: 2-3xday (I already mixed some of this and it was a pain to cap. Each cap ended up with about 375mg tyrosine and 155mg caffeine. Would 2 of these caps be too much caffeine at 310mg. I've seen some fat burners with 300mg caffeine) A lot of ???. Sorry. If anybody actually takes the time to read through this and answer some of my ??, then you are one heck of a guy. I would really appreciate it. Thanks for the responses already. By the way, I'll keep everyone posted on my results. |
| Posted by: Debaser Sep 20 2004, 02:14 PM |
| Hey Ricker, where did you get the vinpocetine in bulk powder? Just wondering because I want some and wish they carried it here |
| Posted by: ricker Sep 20 2004, 02:31 PM |
| PM sent |
| Posted by: fin fang foom Sep 20 2004, 02:43 PM |
| That's a lot of caffeine! Keep in mind that each of your chocamine doses will have about 65mg of caffeine in them. Also remember that caffeine has about a 6 hour half life, so you might want to cut down on the caffeine later in the day especially. Personally, I would say up your chocamine dosage and cut out the raw caffeine entirely. You should still be wide awake from all the other stuff you have listed. But thats just me. |