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> Bolt - Pure Ephedrine HCL, When is Mike going to carry this ?
Posted: Aug 23 2004, 08:24 AM
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Just curious if Mike has indicated when he might start carrying this product ? If at all ?

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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 01:46 PM
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Pure Ephedrine HCL is a banned substance. I see no reason not to take Vasopro, anyways.

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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 01:49 PM
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I thought Vasopro was pure Ephedrine HCl but with the added Guaifissan?
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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (lite12 @ Aug 23 2004, 01:46 PM)
Pure Ephedrine HCL is a banned substance. I see no reason not to take Vasopro, anyways.

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Herbal Ephedra is banned. Synthetic Ephedrine HCL is restricted, but not banned. mike will never carry bolt because it contains pure ephedrine hcl which can only be sold through a DEA designated facility. Vasopro is fine because it cotains the gua-
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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 02:36 PM
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Well, Ephedrine can't be sold as a weight loss or performance enhancing supplement. Retailers that make these kinds of claims are being shut down. Since Vasopro is a bronchodilator and expectorant, it can still be purchased without major restrictions.

Sorry, I meant to write Ephedra in my previous post. Pharmaceutical grade Ephedrine HCL isn't banned...

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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (lite12 @ Aug 23 2004, 02:36 PM)
Well, Ephedrine can't be sold as a weight loss or performance enhancing supplement. Retailers that make these kinds of claims are being shut down. Since Vasopro is a bronchodilator and expectorant, it can still be purchased without major restrictions.

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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 06:10 PM
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What's the difference's between both, don't they work the same.
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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 06:26 PM
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Ephedra contains a full range of alkaloids, as opposed to the iscolated alkaloid Ephedrine.

This is from another post I made a while ago;

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To get the same benefit from Ephedra (extract) you must take very large amounts. Even then it depends on how the alkaloids have been standardized (at what percent?), and what range of alkaloids are in there. There's no way of knowing this by the information that comes with the package, and you are forced to risk your health unnecessarily.


For example, I have an old bottle of Thermapro sitting on my desk that contains 400mg of Ephedra standardized at 6%, meaning 24mg of that is Ephedrine alkaloid. Others may be present and may contribute to adverse reactions.

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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 08:31 PM
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So how many pill's of Vasopro would you recommend.And also what is the max.
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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (Ramiro29833 @ Aug 23 2004, 08:31 PM)
So how many pill's of Vasopro would you recommend.And also what is the max.
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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 09:21 PM
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lol , wink.gif but for real how many.
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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 09:37 PM
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Since Vasopro contains pharmaceutical grade Ephedrine HCL, you're getting 25mg with each tablet.

Most people start at 25mg, twice per day and increase the dosage from there as they gain tolerance. 125mg is the usual cap on this increase. I wouldn't recommend taking more 50mg on the initial dose, as it could cause some seriously adverse reactions.

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There are known issues/sides with Vasopro. That's why I asked. I would order from D & E Pharm but I don't like just anyone having my DL/Identification info..

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Posted: Aug 24 2004, 12:19 PM
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There are known issues/sides with Vasopro. That's why I asked. I would order from D & E Pharm but I don't like just anyone having my DL/Identification info..


Like what? Where did you hear about these issues?

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There are known issues/sides with Vasopro. That's why I asked. I would order from D & E Pharm but I don't like just anyone having my DL/Identification info..


Like what? Where did you hear about these issues?

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- Allergic reaction (difficulty breathing, hives, closing of the throat, swelling of lips, tongue, face)
- Dizziness
- Headache
- Rash
- Nausea
- Vomiting
- Upset stomach

At first I thought they were isolated incidents, but now it's numerous people reporting the same problems, mostly via PM messages. Most common is the upset stomach / difficulty breathing.

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Posted: Aug 24 2004, 04:24 PM
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- Allergic reaction (difficulty breathing, hives, closing of the throat, swelling of lips, tongue, face)
- Dizziness
- Headache
- Rash
- Nausea
- Vomiting
- Upset stomach

At first I thought they were isolated incidents, but now it's numerous people reporting the same problems, mostly via PM messages. Most common is the upset stomach / difficulty breathing.


The Ephedrine HCL in Vasopro is pharmaceutical grade, so any unusual side effects that aren't common to Ephedrine are likey caused by the guaifenesin, or possibly psychosomatic.

Most of those side effects are common to regular (pure) Ephedrine HCL though.

I've taken Pumpuii's old Ephedrine II product which has the same ingredients as Vasopro, and did notice difficulty breathing when coming off of higher doses. I would describe the discomort as mild though, especially when compared to the caffeine withdrawl. I don't have breathing issues anymore, but it's hard to determine whether that's because I have a tolerance developed, or because it's been years since I've used an Ephedrine product containing guaifenesin.

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