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| Posted by: Mk22 Nov 7 2009, 12:29 AM |
| runnin a cylcle of p-plex here soon. im set on all that stuff. but that little demon on my shoulder remembered i have like 60 percent of an epi clone left over. as its not enough i know its own to run i was just curious what your opinions were on running it at a low doesage like 10 and 20mg along the p-plex which ill probly top out at 30 mg at for the last couple of the 4 weeks. i mean i know methyl methyl is shit on you liver but with proper liver support and lots of water is a low doesage of a "lighter" prohormone like epi gonna be that shit on my liver? well compared to whats already expected with this stuff |
| Posted by: Chris25533 Nov 7 2009, 01:34 AM |
| If I was you, and wanted to run both I would bridge the p-plex and epi together. week-1/ P-plex week 2/ p-plex week three/ p-plex and epi week four-epi possibly run a 5th week of just epi if you have enough Since p-plex is a wet compound, epi would harden your gains at the end of your cycle. Not 100% on all this but someone who knows more can tweak it. |
| Posted by: Mk22 Nov 7 2009, 03:36 AM |
| i mean i totally feel you on the hardening effect thats why i figured id suck as much outta that while on cycle as i could. id definately consider running it like that although ive ran epi before and i like it at a higher dose on its own not alot of fun being at the end of a cycle and not feeling that intensity i wouldnt think. but if people have had positive results with that i wouldnt mind given that a try |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 7 2009, 04:16 AM | ||
Probably a good plan not only because of the wet and dry thing. Another benefit would be that phera takes longer to kick in and epi is pretty quick. So, instead of the effects of the phera kicking in just a week or 2 before you're done, you'll be able to continue the progress w/ a quick acting epi just as you're closing out the phera. If you're going to stack them on one of those weeks and extend to a 5th week total, I would definitely load up on the liver protection, though. if you're going to push things a bit you want to play it safe w/ support supps. |
| Posted by: Mk22 Nov 8 2009, 03:15 AM |
| yesh i have cylce support from cel and some extra powders on the side to add like milk thistle wish i remembered to pick up some nac but regarless i think i should be alright although with combining 2 methyls i dont think ill really wanna run a 5th week by then anyways to be honest lol. maybe slightly over 4 depending on how i dose the pplex. but since the epi starts up faster wouldnt i wanna run it along start with the p? i was thinking something like this. sun- 10mg pplex monday/tues-10 mg pplex 10 mg epi wend- 20 mg pplex 10 mg epi thurs-sat 20mg pplex 20mg epi after that only adding the pplex servings to my liking probably 2nd week 30 then next 30 or 40 and last 40. leaving the epi chillin at 20mg. how does this look to you guys. i mean im not asking if its necesary like i said its just a left over bottle so im really asking why not right? |
| Posted by: colin.muller Nov 12 2009, 08:21 PM |
| I just ran a cycle of p-plex alone and as a trial, I took T-911 and formadrol as a PCT and it worked beautifully. Great gains kept and never had any issues. LG products are very legit for what people make of them. |
| Posted by: metalmuscle Nov 12 2009, 09:34 PM |
| Formadrol no doubt!! I'm running T-911 right now as a standalone, and my results are fantastic. More strength on my lifts and energy for the entire workout! |
| Posted by: Mk22 Nov 13 2009, 01:16 AM |
| 5days in and feeling mean and loving it. workout are going good, no significant strength or weight gains yet but thats normal. of course been chowin and drinkin the water so ive put on like 4 pounds. but lookin foreward to running my first full week at 30mg next week and as ill be going through my second run through all my workouts. colin how much weight did you end up with at the end of it? im pretty pumped so far |
| Posted by: colin.muller Nov 13 2009, 08:42 AM | ||
I put on about ten pounds of solid muscle during that cycle. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 14 2009, 03:46 AM |
| Definitely don't chance it running an over the counter PCT. Phera is a steroid and a powerful one at that. it requires a SERM and not just a test booster. Formestane is generally used on cycle, since it can be suppressive. That's not something you want during PCT. I would suggest hitting up a lot of threads regarding methyl cycles and PCT before you go this route. You may keep some gains for a while and not "feel" suppressed if you skip the SERM, but you'll be taking chances by compromising your hormonal balance. |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Nov 14 2009, 01:15 PM |
| +1 I cant believe you expect to keep gains without a serm. Of course you'll recover eventually, but whats the point of doing steroids? I thought it was to keep gains. |
| Posted by: Mk22 Nov 14 2009, 05:01 PM |
| whoaa i think my question got twisted up in the jumble of posts. i was merely asking if the double methyl could be supported with my cyle supporting supplements without crazy reactions from you guys. but it was more just curiousitly. never fear though, i have my natty test boostes ALONG with my nolva sitting safely in my closet for pct. sorry for the confusion but i do appreciate the concern fellas. totally agree with keeping gains to javy, i would be depressed if i didnt.lol. luckily i read the stickies when i first signed up here something alot of people you guys run into here dont do im sure. |
| Posted by: pbfanatic321 Nov 16 2009, 06:02 PM | ||
Lol ahha yeah people are thinking you are saying some stuff when you aren't! |
| Posted by: Mk22 Dec 4 2009, 04:53 AM |
| soo im close to starting up my pct. running nolva at 40 30 20 10. fenugreek at 1 cap, 2,3,4 i have trib and maca also i was wondering if anyone has used these how did you taper and dose them?? my common sense is telling me to keep them inversed with the nolva soo start out low and go up. but i cant find my specific answer on any previous threads so hopefully someone with more experience can help me out thanks. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Dec 4 2009, 01:13 PM | ||
Trib and maca don't need to be tapered. In fact, I'd replace the trib w/ something more effective like horny goat weed or longjack. |
| Posted by: Mk22 Dec 4 2009, 05:13 PM |
| yeah thanks for the feedback man, i mean i know those are good supps to throw in but i got what i got ya know ha. but i have the 1000mg tribs so i was probly gonna run that like 1 pre workout 1 before sleep. maybe once when i wake i guess ill just feel it out. and maybe just 2 doses of the maca. pre workout and before bed as well. any thoughts on that? but on a side note i do have HGW but in powder form dont have a capping machine and will never mix that with anything again, anyone that has tried it raw i think will know what im talking about. foullll stuff |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Dec 4 2009, 07:45 PM | ||
Yeah, I've done HGW straight up too, so I know exactly what you mean. I find the best thing to do is just toss the dose into your mouth and chase real quick w/ some soda. The cola taste masks it fairly well. You get used to it. Longjack can actually be bought pretty cheap in powder form and is proven to work, unlike trib. If you have a few extra bucks, grab some up and try it. Be warned, it's foul tasting too. |