h-drol

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Posted by: On3musta Nov 1 2009, 02:35 PM

so ive decided to run this as my next little cycle in about a month or so...

ive been lookin up peoples reviews and such on it but didnt find exactly what i was lookin for so im gonna ask you guys(the people who have exp with h-drol) for some tips

im thinkin a 5-6 weeker starting at 50mg ed for like a week maybe 2 then bumping it up to 75mgs for the rest of the duration, or possibly bumping up to 100mgs last week or so ... 50/50/75/75/75 or 50/75/75/100/100

for cycle support , im gonna try out CEL's cycle assist- for the price and the ingredients are bomb!

of course ill also be taking fish oil, multi, etc

question on the cycle assist though, as far as pre-loading goes, should i just simply take the amount it says to, 2 weeks prior just like cycle support by AI?

PCT will be simple- i think im gonna try torem this time instead of nolva, and im also gonna add in CEL's PCT assist - it has great ingredients for pct! ill prolly add some creatine in as well ...

any suggestions on what else to throw in for PCT, im down to try different combos, i was thinkin using a strong fat burner or possibly ephed the mix.

oh and stats...

age-21
height-5'11"
weight-183-(low for the norm)
BF-10%

previous cycles-superdrol,epi,pplex,winny

Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 1 2009, 03:10 PM

There's some debate as to whether it's a good idea to go beyond 4 weeks as this is a methyl. Some guys have run it at up to 75 mg and a little longer than 4 weeks. They said they had decent bloodwork afterward.

It may be a case where the originally recommended dose was a little low, but I don't think I'd push my luck w/ 100 mg. If I wanted to push the envelope a bit I might do 3 weeks at 50 and then another 2 weeks at 75, but that's about it.

I got pretty decent leaning/hardening effects with 4 weeks at 50 mg. plus 6 caps a day of 11-OXO. That made a pretty nice stack since the 11-OXO isn't methylated and complements the cutting effect of the h-drol.

Posted by: mld0311 Nov 2 2009, 08:05 AM

I agree, 100 is a little high. I would not push it that high. How was your Epi cycle ?

Posted by: On3musta Nov 2 2009, 11:56 PM

epi was bomb, only thing i didnt like was dried up joints, but that was my fault not taking anything to combat that .

so im thinkin ill run 50/50/50/75/75 - nice little cycle, prolly get me pretty ripped up!

im gonna supplement cissus during cycle for the dryness, and for pre-workout im thinkin going with NO shotgun this time around.

so torem and PCT assist by CEL sound good, oh and creatine?

and while on cycle i think im gonna bump cals back up to 3000 + but more clean

Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 3 2009, 01:52 AM

Halodrol is really best suited to cutting so you might wanna be at maint. or a small deficit to be able to get ripped on it.

Posted by: Jayv24 Nov 3 2009, 05:03 AM

QUOTE (On3musta @ Nov 1 2009, 02:35 PM)

for cycle support , im gonna try out CEL's cycle assist- for the price and the ingredients are bomb!

Ya gotta understand, supp companies want you to spend money bro.

So the 2 week pre-loading phase seems a bit much.

If you have the money to burn, go for it.

Me personally, id rather just buy bulk NAC from BN and just load up for a few days prior, then dose it throughout the cycle.

Keep in mind, if you OD on tylenol and get shipped to the ER, they give you NAC. It works and is probably all you need for liver support.

The other stuff like hawthorne and saw palm may be a tad much for a humble hdrol cycle. Its so mild bro.

I have a full bottle sitting pretty in my cabinet. Not sure when i'll run it. When i used it with injects it ripped me up.

Only thing that sucked was these INSANE shin pumps.

if my heart rate was up and i was walking at a brisk pace, i needed to stop every few yards to let the blood dissipate from the muscles in my shin. The cramping was very painful, even @ 50 mgs.

I never experienced shin pumps with any other oral but hdrol.

Posted by: yeashescool Nov 3 2009, 08:09 AM

QUOTE (On3musta @ Nov 1 2009, 02:35 PM)

question on the cycle assist though, as far as pre-loading goes, should i just simply take the amount it says to, 2 weeks prior just like cycle support by AI?

any suggestions on what else to throw in for PCT, im down to try different combos, i was thinkin using a strong fat burner or possibly ephed the mix.

I think the Preload thing is a lot of hype. Unless you IMMEDIATELY have an increase of blood pressure from a couple pills, is there sense in pre loading? Just do what jayv said. ANd I wouldn't run a fat burner after words until you've done pct and some to make sure you keep your gains. Going directly into a calorie deficit straight from a anabolic could take you back to where you started before cycle. Good luck man.

Posted by: On3musta Nov 3 2009, 09:28 PM

QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Nov 3 2009, 05:03 AM)

QUOTE (On3musta @ Nov 1 2009, 02:35 PM)

for cycle support , im gonna try out CEL's cycle assist- for the price and the ingredients are bomb!

interesting....i didnt know NAC was so essential

thanks for the heads up bro

ill report if i experience any of those damn shin pumps

Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 4 2009, 01:43 AM

NAC is good stuff. I liked Cycle Support because it had a lot more stuff, too but bulk NAC would suffice. It stinks like hell and prob tastes worse so you may want to cap it.

I used the original Halodrol-50 and never got the shin pumps. Jay, were you using the original or a clone? It seems like some clones pale in comparison to originals as far as results versus sides. A lot of ppl. noticed that between AX Superdrol and say M-drol, too.

Posted by: Jayv24 Nov 4 2009, 07:58 AM

QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Nov 4 2009, 01:43 AM)

I used the original Halodrol-50 and never got the shin pumps. Jay, were you using the original or a clone? It seems like some clones pale in comparison to originals as far as results versus sides. A lot of ppl. noticed that between AX Superdrol and say M-drol, too.

I was using CEL Hdrol.

Never had a chance to run the original Halodrol-50

QUOTE

It stinks like hell and prob tastes worse so you may want to cap it

Word.

Its reminiscent of sulphur. Pretty nasty tasting but its awesome.

Posted by: joseph23573 Nov 4 2009, 09:27 AM

hdrol ripped me up like no other, effortlessly.

proper diet and cardio will do the same thing, just takes longer, and no bad sides.

Posted by: On3musta Nov 4 2009, 11:32 PM

QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Nov 4 2009, 01:43 AM)

i have always used cycle support, but then i checked out CEL's cycle assist and it cost less plus has better stuff, cycle support doesnt have NAC, where as cycle assit does...as one example.

question though, whats the dosage suppose to be for NAC, mg wise

and does anyone know a good Mg for just regular bulk cissus?

Posted by: MichiganHater Nov 5 2009, 01:13 AM

I was buying bulk cissus at np 400mg 50% /cap 100 per bag took 3-4x day worked wonders until i ran out!!!!!!

Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 5 2009, 03:21 AM

QUOTE (On3musta @ Nov 4 2009, 11:32 PM)

QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Nov 4 2009, 01:43 AM)

I ran Cycle Assist last time and liked it a lot. I also ran 900 mg. per day of phytosterols too to help keep the lipids in check.

Posted by: On3musta Nov 14 2009, 01:26 PM

so previous users...

how much did the h-drol effect your BP- if at all?

is it more mild in that area then say like pplex and such?

Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 14 2009, 02:41 PM

QUOTE (On3musta @ Nov 14 2009, 01:26 PM)

so previous users...

how much did the h-drol effect your BP- if at all?

is it more mild in that area then say like pplex and such?

Way less sides than pp.

Posted by: On3musta Nov 14 2009, 04:40 PM

yea i figured, im just tryin to be more careful these days cause my BP is genetically high , plus i take adderall for my ADD mon-fri which elevates it some...

dont know if adding in a PH right now would be the best idea, my doc said he would give me BP meds if i wanted but im too young to worry bout that shit

Posted by: Josh47933 Nov 14 2009, 06:28 PM

QUOTE (On3musta @ Nov 14 2009, 04:40 PM)

I've run high before. Try the CEL Cycle Assist. It's got standardized celery seed, which you don't see around much. Also add a higher dose of CoQ10, like 100 mg. or more. Arginine and taurine can lower BP. There's also something called C- peptide or something that you can use. Twinlab had it in a formula but I think I've seen it elsewhere.

If you load up on that stuff and drink a lot of water you'll probably be okay. Keep an eye on it, though.