TOMMYTUFFGUY'S HGHup LOG!!!

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Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Oct 27 2009, 02:31 PM
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Alright, just received a package containing on bottle of HGHup! Will update this log 3 times a week with all the listed requirements, my workouts, cardio, weigh-in and the like starting tomorrow!

Thanks again to AN for this opportunity!
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I will be dosing this as it says on the bottle, 3 morning empty stomach, 2 evening empty stomach and will be coming back with updates on:

Sleep - Time and Quality
Mental Alertness/Focus
Energy
Motivation
Mood/Aggression
Stress
Libido
Joints
Endurance
Strength
Quality of Training
Pump and Vascularity
Muscle Hardness/Density
Body Composition and Look
Appetite
Overall Sense of Feeling

Posted by: On3musta Oct 27 2009, 08:34 PM
dang you got that fast, good luck with it all

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Oct 28 2009, 10:30 AM
QUOTE (On3musta @ Oct 27 2009, 08:34 PM)
dang you got that fast, good luck with it all

Thanks man, just popped 3 caps of HGH and am headed to the gym in about an hour to work on the cable machine and 30 mins of cardio.

Currently I'm at about 210 lbs, 5'10, age 29.

Will be eating fairly clean for this log.

Oatmeal, egg, protein shake, tuna, nuts, fish, lean beef, veggies, yogurt, lots of water, whole wheat breads, tons of chicken, things of that nature...about 4-5 times a day. I tend to stray on weekends with football, UFC's and WWE's but I'll try to stick to it.

My goal is to lean up while preserving and/or gaining muscle. I look in tip top shape at around 185, right now my face looks a bit full/bloated as does my mid-section..my arms and legs usually are always in shape. So suffice to say this is mainly for a 'recomp' effect.

I will be using some sort of pre-workout energizer but nothing I haven't used before. Caffeine tabs. Superpump 250, White Flood...I will still be able to tell the effects of HGH. Post work-out nothing fancy, as I have Muscle Gauge Whey and Sci-Fit Econowhey, usually 2 scoops.

Will update soon.

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Oct 29 2009, 04:27 PM
Dosing as label states..3 morning, 2 afternoon.

haven't noticed any effects as of yet. This is only my 1st and a half day.

Hit the cardio for 30 mins today, weight training tomorrow.

Had a protein shake, smart ones sals. steak meal with asparagus. 200 cal. Few chips n salsa.

Posted by: Vitruvian Oct 30 2009, 05:39 AM
QUOTE (TommyTuffGuy @ Oct 29 2009, 04:27 PM)
Dosing as label states..3 morning, 2 afternoon.

haven't noticed any effects as of yet. This is only my 1st and a half day.

Hit the cardio for 30 mins today, weight training tomorrow.

Had a protein shake, smart ones sals. steak meal with asparagus. 200 cal. Few chips n salsa.

Tommy,

Just double checking..... avoiding carbs prior to dosing the HGHup?

Also, the morning dose is better suited about 45 minutes pre-workout.... assuming you don't eat any carbs within a couple hours preworkout.

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 2 2009, 10:53 AM
Will do.

I dosed the caps early this morning, then had a couple breakfast burritos. Going to head to the gym in under an hour for a full body and cardio session.

Hope everyone had a good Halloween!

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 3 2009, 03:21 PM
Ok updating this log November 3rd, 2009! So far:

Sleep - Time and Quality - Sleep seems to have improved, dreams more vivid.
Mental Alertness/Focus - a little higher.
Energy - same as above
Motivation - increased
Mood/Aggression - same mood
Stress - stress level is same
Libido - seems slightly higher but only by a smidge
Joints - never had issues with joints, can't really gauge effect
Endurance - slight increase
Strength - strength has increased
Quality of Training - slight increase
Pump and Vascularity - nothing noticed
Muscle Hardness/Densse - nothing noticed
Body Composition and Look - too early to tell
Appetite - same
Overall Sense of Feeling - same

Posted by: Big_Ben Nov 5 2009, 09:39 PM
Good start to the log, I'm all eyes on this one.

Lovin' the bottle pics, good let's get this started look.

Good luck bro, bust out those Set/Reps!! I'll be visiting! ph34r.gif

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 7 2009, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Nov 5 2009, 09:39 PM)
Good start to the log, I'm all eyes on this one.

Lovin' the bottle pics, good let's get this started look.

Good luck bro, bust out those Set/Reps!! I'll be visiting! ph34r.gif

Thanks a bunch man!

Had a birthday to attend this weekend so I got a little out of the mold of eating clean and of course not drinking.

I have noticed deeper, vivid sleep/dreams on HGHup, as well as strength increases in the first week.

Keep you all posted!

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 9 2009, 10:56 AM
Just got up this morning, dreams still vivid and deep. Going to hit the gym in under an hour, then do some cardio on the treadmill. Will report back with attributes.

Posted by: Vitruvian Nov 11 2009, 03:13 PM
QUOTE (TommyTuffGuy @ Nov 9 2009, 10:56 AM)
Just got up this morning, dreams still vivid and deep. Going to hit the gym in under an hour, then do some cardio on the treadmill. Will report back with attributes.

Looking forward to hearing how it has been treating you

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 11 2009, 07:18 PM
So far I've been noticing slight strength increases and deeper sleep. Those are the two I can pin-point the most. At the end of the week I'll go over all the list of attributes again. Worked on the cable machine today and did increase the weights.

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 11 2009, 07:19 PM
As far as nutrition goes sticking to mainly protein shakes upon waking, pre workout and post. Doing canned tuna/salmon, nuts, chicken, lean meat, lots of water.

Posted by: Big_Ben Nov 13 2009, 01:12 PM
How goes it man? Any boosts in workout stimulus?

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 16 2009, 01:05 PM
Big_Ben I'll be posting an update today after I hit the weights. So far I have noticed def. more deep, restful and vivid sleep. Strength is up...will get back on the list come this afternoon!!

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 16 2009, 02:27 PM
Update!

Sleep - Time and Quality - Definitely better. Deeper, more vivid sleep.
Mental Alertness/Focus - bit higher.
Energy - same as above
Motivation - increased
Mood/Aggression - slightly higher.
Stress - stress level is same
Libido - seems slightly higher
Joints - never had issues with joints, can't really gauge effect
Endurance - slight increase
Strength - strength has increased in past 2 weeks.
Quality of Training - slight increase
Pump and Vascularity - nothing noticed
Muscle Hardness/Densse - nothing noticed
Body Composition and Look - nothing as of yet, could be diet.
Appetite - same
Overall Sense of Feeling - slightly elevated.

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 21 2009, 07:33 PM
Getting closer to the end of this log! Heading out for the UFC 106 tonight and going live to WWE Survivor Series 2009 in DC tomorrow! Still dosing protocol the same and have been noticing the same effects. I'm sure my diet will be thrown off these next two days why I've chimed in...

Posted by: Big_Ben Nov 23 2009, 12:58 PM
Dreams are sounding insane with everyone, which is a good byproduct of sorts! I'm gonna hop on the HGHup train here next month!

Way to go Forrest at 106, hoped he would have got at KO or submission though instead of decision. But it just leaves room open for another deciding fight with Tito, hopefully Forrest will seal the deal that time.

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 24 2009, 03:42 PM
That whole card was excellent for a show that had so many injuries.

As for the HGHup log update:

Did a full body today...upon waking I was having crazy vivid dreams and deep deep sleep....got to the gym and all my weights went up about 10lbs. This def seems to be helping in those areas. I haven't noticed much in terms of energy and/or cognitive behaviors but the sleep and strength is there for sure.

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 25 2009, 01:25 PM
11/25/2009 Update!

Sleep - Time and Quality - Sleep is much deeper, almost hard to get up.
Mental Alertness/Focus - same
Energy - same
Motivation - slight increase
Mood/Aggression - up a bit
Stress - same
Libido - same
Joints - never had issues
Endurance - same
Strength - increased
Quality of Training - slight increase
Pump and Vascularity - nothing noticable
Muscle Hardness/Density - slightly raised
Body Composition and Look - same (my diet)
Appetite - same
Overall Sense of Feeling - slight increase

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 28 2009, 04:49 PM
Ok today was my final day on AN's HGHup!

The main things noticed throughout the log were a substantial increase in sleep and recovery time. Deep, deep sleep, vivid dreams, almost brain foggy when waking. Recovery was excellent and soreness that I usually experience seemed to disappear.

I noticed my strength increase as I did go up at the very least 10lbs on all my weights sometimes even 20 without the strain involved of upping it that high that I usually notice. The other attributes that AN asked us to pay attention to I didn't see too much of. My diet was fairly clean except for the occasional splurge so my body didn't recomp or transform in any way although I do think I put on a bit of extra muscle.

For my final review I'd give HGHup an 8/10 for the details listed above, and would purchase again but would probably prefer to stack it with a test booster and fat burner for a full body recomp.

I'd like to thank AN for the opportunity especially on this forum that hasn't seem much action in the past 4 years or so!!

Keep 'em coming!!!

Posted by: Jayv24 Nov 28 2009, 05:48 PM
Ive been a silent stalker in this thread and Im looking forward to trying/logging this myself.

The deeper sleep alone sounds like it would be worth it personally.

Posted by: BigBadGreekdude Nov 29 2009, 09:04 AM
Guys, Please be careful when taking products with Mucuna Pruriens. They contain high level of L-dopa which is basically dopamine. The dreams you are getting are from the stimulation and release of huge amounts of dopamine in your brain.

Messing with your levels of dopamine and other neurotransmitters is risky business. There is a big risk of permanently altering your personality and having mental disorders as a result. Some people have even become psychotic.

This is not hype or a scare tactic..Do some research, read some of the medical journals.. It is a fact.

Posted by: Jayv24 Nov 29 2009, 02:11 PM
Yeah, ive used Cabergoline, a dopamine agonist and noticed mostly positive mood alterations as well as delayed refractory periods.

The only notable problems occuring with Mucuna was mania and psychotic exacerbation in schizophrenic patients.

Healthy people using naturally occuring dopa products or an agonist shouldnt experience any problems.

Posted by: angelo212 Nov 30 2009, 12:16 AM
QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Nov 29 2009, 02:11 PM)
Yeah, ive used Cabergoline, a dopamine agonist and noticed mostly positive mood alterations as well as delayed refractory periods.

The only notable problems occuring with Mucuna was mania and psychotic exacerbation in schizophrenic patients.

Healthy people using naturally occuring dopa products or an agonist shouldnt experience any problems.


What did you mean by the delayed refractory periods? How did you notice that?

Great log Tommy. I'd buy it just for the sleep. I'm on medication that doesn't let me sleep so good even with ambian.

Posted by: TommyTuffGuy Nov 30 2009, 12:39 AM
QUOTE (BigBadGreekdude @ Nov 29 2009, 09:04 AM)
Guys, Please be careful when taking products with Mucuna Pruriens. They contain high level of L-dopa which is basically dopamine. The dreams you are getting are from the stimulation and release of huge amounts of dopamine in your brain.

Messing with your levels of dopamine and other neurotransmitters is risky business. There is a big risk of permanently altering your personality and having mental disorders as a result. Some people have even become psychotic.

This is not hype or a scare tactic..Do some research, read some of the medical journals.. It is a fact.

I'd love for an AN rep to come in here and clarify this post...

Posted by: BigBadGreekdude Nov 30 2009, 09:34 PM
There are risks, that is for sure. I am not saying the product is dangerous by any means but more is not better and using it is CERTAINLY not risk free. It is suffice to say that using Mucuna Puriens (velvet bean) products has some side effects and it is a fact that you are messing with dopamine levels in your brain..altering your brain chemistry. In some people effects can be very severe. Velvet bean has naturally occurring and very powerful L-dopa which is a dopamine precursor and affects your mood, sleep and many other functions. Dopamine is what is released from your pleasure centers and it is a very complicated process that I do not think is a good idea to tinker with.

Here is one very well written paper on the topic. There are many more out there like it.


http://www.idrc.ca/en/ev-31916-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html

Take it for what you may. I am not busting on you or criticizing.. just offering some food for thought to help.

Posted by: Jayv24 Dec 1 2009, 12:35 AM
QUOTE (angelo212 @ Nov 30 2009, 12:16 AM)
QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Nov 29 2009, 02:11 PM)
Yeah, ive used Cabergoline, a dopamine agonist and noticed mostly positive mood alterations as well as delayed refractory periods.

The only notable problems occuring with Mucuna was mania and psychotic exacerbation in schizophrenic patients.

Healthy people using naturally occuring dopa products or an agonist shouldnt experience any problems.


What did you mean by the delayed refractory periods? How did you notice that?

Great log Tommy. I'd buy it just for the sleep. I'm on medication that doesn't let me sleep so good even with ambian.

Well, without getting too graphic, I was able to achieve an erection much faster after orgasm, at times almost immediately after. The caber was used to combat the prolactin related sides of Tren.

I believe i was using anywhere from .5mg to 1mg Every 2-3 days.

p.s. Ambien and other hypnotics dont work as a sleep aid for me either.

Posted by: Vitruvian Dec 1 2009, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (TommyTuffGuy @ Nov 30 2009, 12:39 AM)
QUOTE (BigBadGreekdude @ Nov 29 2009, 09:04 AM)
Guys, Please be careful when taking products with Mucuna Pruriens. They contain high level of L-dopa which is basically dopamine. The dreams you are getting are from the stimulation and release of huge amounts of dopamine in your brain.

Messing with your levels of dopamine and other neurotransmitters is risky business. There is a big risk of permanently altering your personality and having mental disorders as a result. Some people have even become psychotic.

This is not hype or a scare tactic..Do some research, read some of the medical journals.. It is a fact.

I'd love for an AN rep to come in here and clarify this post...

I am confident in the safety of properly used mucuna; but let me gather some worthy proof to base statements on instead of simply sharing opinion.

JayV, That sounds like a good side effect caber has there.... never heard of that. The instant round #2 would be reason enough to use it. lol

Posted by: Taylor135049 Dec 21 2009, 10:19 PM
QUOTE (Vitruvian @ Dec 1 2009, 09:05 PM)
QUOTE (TommyTuffGuy @ Nov 30 2009, 12:39 AM)
QUOTE (BigBadGreekdude @ Nov 29 2009, 09:04 AM)
Guys, Please be careful when taking products with Mucuna Pruriens. They contain high level of L-dopa which is basically dopamine. The dreams you are getting are from the stimulation and release of huge amounts of dopamine in your brain.

Messing with your levels of dopamine and other neurotransmitters is risky business. There is a big risk of permanently altering your personality and having mental disorders as a result. Some people have even become psychotic.

This is not hype or a scare tactic..Do some research, read some of the medical journals.. It is a fact.

I'd love for an AN rep to come in here and clarify this post...

I am confident in the safety of properly used mucuna; but let me gather some worthy proof to base statements on instead of simply sharing opinion.

JayV, That sounds like a good side effect caber has there.... never heard of that. The instant round #2 would be reason enough to use it. lol

any updates on this Vitruvian?