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| Posted by: Big_Ben Sep 18 2009, 10:11 PM |
| What up BN members its been too long, but I'm getting back on my feet and ready to either gain my ass off over the next 6 weeks or "find a new hobby" as they put it with The One. I've been training when I have the time, which has been once a week per body part and have missed a few leg days off and on. But within the past month I've gotten a decent schedule down and have been consistently training and eating. I've been waiting to unleash this product with a vengence and Saturday Sept 19th it will begin! So I hope you guys are ready to see what I can make happen with a product I've wanted to run for about 6 months. I'm also picking back up as a rep for Applied, thanks to Vitruvian and the CEO himself. Well that is it for now, I will update tomorrow with my first dose and add some more updates on my routine going into this. Hope everyone is well and it'll be good to see some familiar faces around the board. LET'S GET IT ON!!!! |
| Posted by: Chris25533 Sep 18 2009, 10:13 PM |
| dude I'm glad your back! I'll keep a close eye on this log. Good luck. |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Sep 18 2009, 10:30 PM |
| What's up Chris, looking massive bro! Good to see you've stuck around, and making good gains too. Dude I'm pretty sure I read you're up to 220 in your test thread, that's a bad ass weight. That's a goal for me in the next coming weeks, we'll see what I can do with this stuff. Right now I gotta good 15-20lbs to gain to catch up, my strength is getting very close to normal but gotta add some size back. For how good the results we got from the initial inhouse testors I cannot wait to give this a try. It'll be good talking with ya in the weeks to come man. |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Sep 21 2009, 02:09 PM |
| Ok, here we go... Age: 32 Start Weight: 204 Current Supps: The One - 3 caps/day for the first 2-3 weeks, may amp up to 4 for final 3 weeks. Dose taken at 11 am each day. Bio-Mend - 2 caps/day, Dose at bedtime. Omega Essentials - 2 caps/day, Dose at bedtime. NeoVar - 6 caps/day, 2 dosings am/postWO. (NeoVar actually works with The One in IGF-1 release coupled with GLUT4 translocation.) Plenty of Whey Protein/Dextrose Multi-Vitamin ------------------------ WO: Back to Basics Monday - Chest, Tri, Delts Tuesday - Bicep, Back, Traps Wednesday - Legs, Abs Repeat...Alternating Heavy and Light days. Sunday - Off All training is strict complex movements, heavy days reps will be from 8-3, and light days 10-14. ----------------------- Initial dosing reactions Sat/Sun: Increase in heart rate within the first hour, felt good all day. By Saturday night appetite increased noticeably. I can see why it is recommended for am dosing, my heart rate increase was noticeable right off the bat. It'd be annoying to take this stuff just before bed but within a few hours it wasn't anything I wasn't either feeling or used to. Soreness from prior workout to start date, significantly reduced today. Workout tonight is on schedule and looking forward to it! Later! |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Sep 23 2009, 08:19 AM |
| Day 4 in the books. So far muscle pumps are amazing, and lasting. Strength hasn't moved yet, but the few last reps of sets are feeling more stable and controlled. There's no racking it feeling before I finish. Kinda insane but a guy I talk BB-ing with at work has already said my arms/chest look thicker. This stuff stays with ya, even I'm liking what I see! Chest pump looked great, and I'm still feeling the sense of well being. Recovery is kicking in great so far too. But its still early so I only expect strength, and these initial benefits to improve. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Sep 23 2009, 10:07 AM |
| FYI, ran 2nd gear standalone a couple months back and the results were very pronounced...defn noticed a 'harder' physique, oily skin...libido was through the roof...almost felt as if I was on a prohormone cycle minus the sides and supression...I was pretty stoked, that was only at 1 cap per day...taken before bed. Good luck w. the log...I'll be checking in... |
| Posted by: DownTown Sep 23 2009, 11:39 AM |
| Great to see you back Ben, its been lonely without you |
| Posted by: fidoslim Sep 23 2009, 02:12 PM |
| i heard they are taking the one off the market voluntarly for some reason have you heard anything about this? |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Sep 29 2009, 05:31 PM |
| What up fella's!! Thanks for the input PFatal, that's pretty damn interesting. And at 1 pill a day? I can't remember off hand but is that what it reccomended? What up DT? What u been up to? Fido, I haven't heard anything about that...but I just started back up so I'll see what I can dig up! Well 1 week in now. Feeling great, as said before pumps are great and I'm starting to feel solid. Heavy Chest workout last night, and I'm up in reps from 275x8 in flats to sets of 10. So I'm pretty stoked about that. Inclines, I'm handling 225x8's which I was doing x6's and really sticking with 205 the past few weeks. So things are improving and time will only improve it. See what Biceps/Back do tonite.... Oh and I'm gonna weigh in tonight as well. I don't know if its from this stuff or what but when I get pissed its hard to back off until I catch myself. So agression is up a bit, and its not like I walk around pissed but just when I get pissed I really get pissed!!! |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Sep 29 2009, 05:42 PM |
| A couple other things... Recovery is way up, after a day of feeling like I crushed my muscles the next is semi sore, then its like nothing happened. Which is really good for hitting groups twice a week. This past weekend was a daddy weekend so my food intake was not the best. And I missed a few shakes at night which really sucks. Going into last nights chest workout I felt alittle weak, I could tell I could have had a few more protein/carb snacks going into the workout. But still pushed out more reps than last week. So I'm pretty impressed so far with 1 week in. |
| Posted by: Vitruvian Sep 29 2009, 08:36 PM |
Happy to see life is settling down for you Ben! 220 is within your reach..... with or without The One. The One will just make it a bit faster  Get those calories as high as you can for this run.... and keep them above maintenance afterwards. Get some failure sets in to increase volume as well. these will make a HUGE difference in getting and keeping the gains. The One was discontinued by AN a few weeks back. Some retailers still have stock of it; for those skilled at searching. As for 2nd Gear..... the beauty is the simplicity. A lot of people complained thinking 50 mg of 6-bromo was too little.... but the 50/50 blend of alpha/beta isomers apparently makes a significant difference in results. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Sep 29 2009, 11:08 PM | ||
Yea, I thought the dose was low too...but then figured at 100mg my bottle would only last 15 days ...as for this log I'm curious to see how the1 works out for you. Subscribed! |
| Posted by: DownTown Sep 30 2009, 10:55 AM |
| having both isomers was a great idea. Thats what they did for arimatest, and that stuff ( the feel ) reminds me of the old school andro popers. I cant remember off the top of my head but one of the isomers is androgenic, stuff definitly works. |
| Posted by: Vitruvian Sep 30 2009, 07:31 PM | ||
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| Posted by: Chris25533 Sep 30 2009, 07:35 PM |
| lol at the popper under his nut sack! I ordered myself a bottle of 2nd gear to run solo sometime. When downtown said they reminded him of old school andro poppers, I automatically was sold on the idea. |
| Posted by: Vitruvian Oct 4 2009, 06:39 PM | ||
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| Posted by: smsbearsam19 Oct 5 2009, 02:52 AM |
| Hey Ben. Nice to see you back bud. Welcome back to the AN family as well. Cheers! -Sean- Team APPNUT |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 5 2009, 10:37 AM |
| Sorry for the delay, last week flew by. Well my weight has hit 210 last week, I'm yet to weigh myself again. This week should be interesting to see where things end up. All exercises were up in weigh/reps last week so I'm still impressed as I'm going. I was busting out bb curls Tuesday night with 35's on each side at 6-8 reps, to the point of basically complete failure...it was a good feeling! What up Vitruvian and Sean!! Vitruvian, not a problem with eating everything I can get my hands on! This stuff makes me starving constantly! I cannot go too long without eating or completely stuffing myself! Let me tell ya Sean, its good to be back and kicking some ass again, thanks!! |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Oct 6 2009, 04:44 AM | ||
SMSU in Springfield? I lived in Branson for 10 yrs, in KC nowadays. The name popped out at me, so I had to ask. Good to see you back, Ben. Good luck w/ the cycle. |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 7 2009, 09:53 PM |
| Ok, so this stuff's pumps are getting insane!!! Just wait till I post up a pic from my bicep workout!! My arms looked insane, just huge and thick. Pumps are getting to the point of cramping before failure! A few reps and the blood is flooding the muscle, and looking sick! Repping out again no problem with weights previously struggling with. Like full controlled, muscle contracting reps!! No 2nd guessing so next week is another bump up week! Pretty sweet, and its getting better and better each week! This week being seriously noticeable in pumps, rep strength. Still keeping high carb/high protein diet, I cannot go more than 2 hours with a decent size meal. At 2 hours max my stomach is pissed, gurgling, and hot! So I'm not fighting it, eating cleanly and until I'm satisfied. So still rocking it out and killing it! Only sides to report is a small amount of lower back pump. Not painful, and not all the time but any body position like riding my sportbike after work tonight and I could feel it tightening up pretty good. So more water and alittle Taurine will be added into the diet/stack. Libido is going strong as well, the boys are doing well so no insane shutdown so far! |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 8 2009, 10:23 AM |
| Full blown! (shirt by Applied!) |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 8 2009, 10:26 AM |
| Pretty sweet shirt...back. |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 9 2009, 10:42 AM |
| Things are going good, increase of water intake helped the lower back. Weekend should be a fun workout being a rep workout if I can hold back from the heavy weights. |
| Posted by: smsbearsam19 Oct 15 2009, 09:22 AM | ||||
LOL. Nah man...the SMS are my initials, Bear was my father's nickname and sam was my dog's name. Cheers! -Sean- Team APPNUT |
| Posted by: smsbearsam19 Oct 15 2009, 09:25 AM | ||
Taurine + Increased water intake will always help with back pumps or cramp like issues. Additionally...The ONE made me feel like a black hole when it came to eating to. Try Taking NeoVar Recomped and The ONE together before a cheat meal sometime...I did before having some Chicago Style Deep Dish pizza and man I not only smoked the pizza, but I felt pumped as all hell. Good times. Cheers to ya Ben! -Sean- Team APPNUT |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 16 2009, 12:01 PM |
| Nice SMS, I too have noticed about 1/2 hour to an hour after eating my muscles are fuller. Well I'm up to 215lbs, things are going great. Getting alot of compliments about looking alot bigger in the past few weeks at work! Was kind of pressed for time this week on workouts so I didn't really go for more weight but still repped out what I did the last time no problem. The guys at work actually measured my bicep this morning and without a pump I'm at 18 3/4", so with a pump I think I could easily add an inch since the pumps are so intense. The line separating my upper chest muscle is alot more defined and upper chest is fuller. Well next week is pretty much my final week. So far I'm impressed with it, its definitely not as insane feeling as Phera-Max on strength gains but with that its not as harsh with headaches and feeling strong but feeling sick. As you can see the strength is there just not as extreme. The weight gain is definitely cleaner and I feel great, my muscles feel awesome when I flex and they are alot harder. Pumps come on fast and last a long time, even a couple days after a workout my muscles are on point. All my clothes are back to being tight. And I can still have sex and blow some nice loads! So shutdown is nowhere near Phera and others. Oh and a new monster Avy!! I agree with the statement Applied makes that if you can't grow on this stuff find a new hobby. I have no idea how you could mess up a cycle of this stuff unless you aren't training and eating like you should to gain. At that point its pointless to keep training! Take a month of serious life as a bodybuilder and gain, its as simple as that....if you can still get your hands on The One. I'll still make updates when I can...and plan to keep going through 2nd Gear. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Oct 16 2009, 01:39 PM | ||
I wouldn't be so quick to make such a bold statement...using saw palmetto and/or an antibiotic would render theONE completely ineffective remember doogs? |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 16 2009, 04:06 PM |
| Yeah, I remember that but we also asked to have testers state any prescription drugs and all supplements, and to cease other hormonal supps. I don't know all the science behind what mixes with what otherwise I would have warned him. But yeah that definitely sucked. |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 18 2009, 04:35 PM |
| Off Daddy duty this weekend, so I got a head start on chest...incline as follows: 135x16 185x12 225x10 225x10 275x6 225x12 Nuff said. Luvin' it! |
| Posted by: smsbearsam19 Oct 23 2009, 04:13 AM | ||
I can help you out with the scientific explanation stuff bud...check out our bustin broscience article #3 on our website. Unfortunately my rough draft copy was used, but regardless my article addresses a lot of solid information. Anyway...one last tip...the best answer to use for what not to use when using the ONE...5 alpha reductase inhibitors (examples: saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, beta sistosterol, finasteride, dutasteride, etc.). They are fine to use during PCT, but not on cycle. http://www.appliednutriceuticals.com/pdf/bustinbro_issue_3.pdf Looking like a certified APPNUT Monster there in that Avy Ben!  Cheers bud! -Sean- Team APPNUT |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 27 2009, 09:43 PM |
| Thanks Sean. I'm loving being back in Big Ben mode!!! Impressive stuff The One! Well I'm on PCT right now, running: 2nd Gear (estro control) IGF-2 (boost test) Drive (boost test/estro control) RPM (extra edge in my workouts) Bio-Mend (Liver repair/immune system boost) Well I'm still gaining...my daughter was sick over the weekend and yesterday I fell asleep before my workout. Today has been hell, I'm pretty sure I caught a touch of it. But I'm pumped to lift. Flat Bench: 135x15 (joints ached probably from fighting illness) 225x10 275x12 (said fuck it I wanna see where my strength is!) 275x10 (no spot so I stopped at 10 feeling my chest really tightening) 275x12 (alittle bit of time inbetween to start this post) 315x6 355x3!!! Fuck Yes! Well on to inclines! |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Oct 27 2009, 09:54 PM |
| Okay I lied one more set of 315x5!!! One thing I wanna add is I never went over 3 pills a day. This stuff is more gradual in its effects than Phera or Superdrol. Never once did my nips have like a tenderness or burn. Once that shit happened on the other two I ran a single dose of E-form just to be sure! Oh, and DPS still had stock if u are lucky. Good stuff, now back to work.  |
| Posted by: Vitruvian Oct 28 2009, 09:11 AM |
| 355 x 3 with no spot? You're nuts Benny. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Oct 28 2009, 10:07 AM |
| Does anyone know if 2nd gear will cause liver enzymes to spike? I'm just curious, because I took some bloodwork about 4 weeks into PCT everything came back normal...test was slightly elevated, but what worried me was that my liver function tests came back really high... AST was 59 normal is 5-40 ALT was 35 normal is 10-40. My PCT was HCG + 2nd gear. I can't imagine that HCG would cause my liver to work extra hard...I suspect it was 2nd gear... Anyways...I'll be back in the lab next week for some more bllodwork hopefully values are back to normal. |
| Posted by: Vitruvian Oct 30 2009, 05:40 AM | ||
There's nothing there that I have heard of having this effect. I'll check for you though! |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Nov 5 2009, 09:24 PM |
| Haha, you know how I do Vitruvian!! I don't get like this lifting safely!!! I don't lift like that when I have my daughter sleeping upstairs! But I knew I could do it, had I any doubts I wouldn't chance it. Well 2nd week of PCT almost done and I'm still raging through workouts, I didn't improve this week but my workouts have been later since the days are shorter and outside chores are calling before the sunsets. I'm only running 2nd Gear and no problems, except for the fact I'm a raging hardon!!! I swear to god I'm sitting at my desk at work and cannot get up to get some food from the fridge the other day since I was apparently in a good mood though I'm doing boring work. Not a bad thing though, its a good break from work!!! Haha! Besides my gf likes it, and my fuller muscles!! I did up my Drive the other day thinking things have been going good, and learned quickly 2 pills at a time is still my limit! Well I gotta get back to it. Hope everyone is doing good. PF- I wouldn't think the Liver values would be from 2nd Gear either, atleast in my opinion it shouldn't. Vinster will probably talk to Dirk on this one though I'll check back and if no answer I'll get ahold of our chemist. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Nov 6 2009, 02:11 PM | ||
The values aren't really that high....but they are def'n elevated. Im just wondering if it might have caused them to increase...I was also using clomid at the time, and further reading suggests that clomid is slightly liver toxic... Thanks for looking into it though...I appreciate it. Had blood drawn on wed...still waiting on resutls. Been off PCT for nearly 50 days now...so levels should be back to baseline...I hope haha. |
| Posted by: Vitruvian Nov 11 2009, 03:18 PM | ||||
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