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Well if you can get over being p whipped and be a man ( JK  ) the review about the propadrol does not look to promising. I have read about Havoc and there are positive reviews about the gains during and after. Might see if you can run this alone or add something besides propadrol. Then again, just because one dudes skin was dry on his arm and acne on his shoulders doesnt mean anything. Im sure someone will give you some more help.
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id do sum original formula 4AD TRANS. u cud do a 8 week cycle w/ that & fuck till ur both are out of ur minds. im guessing most can prolly stack 4AD w/ either hdrol, bold, propadrol, epi(depending how it reacts to ur libido) w/no libido probs w/enough 4AD. or do a real injectable test cycle & just fuck her like a 900lb horny gorilla and jus go ape & clobber the shit out her. id do either a 8 week 4AD TRANS cycle stacked w/ HGW,PT-141 or Melanotan 2 & maybe b4 AP do a cialis/Viagra combo for fun. or do the same thing w/a 12 weeker Test cycle. if u choose2 do either cycle, hopefully after the cycle ur girl wud be the one payin for future cycles to come hehe
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| QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 10 2008, 09:37 AM) | id do sum original formula 4AD TRANS. u cud do a 8 week cycle w/ that & fuck till ur both are out of ur minds. im guessing most can prolly stack 4AD w/ either hdrol, bold, propadrol, epi(depending how it reacts to ur libido) w/no libido probs w/enough 4AD.
or do a real injectable test cycle & just fuck her like a 900lb horny gorilla and jus go ape & clobber the shit out her.
id do either a 8 week 4AD TRANS cycle stacked w/ HGW,PT-141 or Melanotan 2 & maybe b4 AP do a cialis/Viagra combo for fun.
or do the same thing w/a 12 weeker Test cycle.
if u choose2 do either cycle, hopefully after the cycle ur girl wud be the one payin for future cycles to come hehe |
the reason I changed is because length of cycle not looking for something very long ie 8-12 weeks then PCT... I dont drink while on cycles at all and eat very very clean... she is very social likes going out and hosting parties so thats why I am cutting the length down. The bedroom is never a problem, LOL! I am also looking at replacing the propadrol with a tren supplement, too. Another reason why I am looking at running is I have a week off work coming up at the end of the month and was going to do 2-a-days, to really shock my muscles. Did it on my first SD cycle and put on 25lbs, with some crazy crazy increase in strength. So what do you think propadrol or tren stacked with havoc?
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well im looking to go for a 3 week with Mdrol, P Plex and run 4 weeks (the whole time with Hdrol) Ive got my liver support and will keep my protein just about 195 -225 g's a day. Hit it and hit it hard. I am also going to split my workouts AM and PM on this cycle and keep cardio down to 3 times a week. Previous PH cycle wgts started at 170 and gained 15 lbs was able to keep more then 1/2 on pct. This time I am starting at 193 and want to be well over 205. My bench on prior cycles went from 365 before and maxed at 415 Military press 275 to 315 - Seated and not using a smith maching squats 315 to 350 - I will keep a log on supps, moods and wgts sorry steve not too much help here,
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| QUOTE (Jor EL @ Sep 10 2008, 12:10 PM) | well im looking to go for a 3 week with Mdrol, P Plex and run 4 weeks (the whole time with Hdrol)
Ive got my liver support and will keep my protein just about 195 -225 g's a day. Hit it and hit it hard.
I am also going to split my workouts AM and PM on this cycle and keep cardio down to 3 times a week.
Previous PH cycle wgts started at 170 and gained 15 lbs was able to keep more then 1/2 on pct. This time I am starting at 193 and want to be well over 205.
My bench on prior cycles went from 365 before and maxed at 415
Military press 275 to 315 - Seated and not using a smith maching
squats 315 to 350 -
I will keep a log on supps, moods and wgts
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did i understand you 3 weeks with Mdrol then PPlex for 4 weeks and then running Hdrol the whole time? I sure hope you are not serious? thats liver death!!!
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| QUOTE (Stephen57799 @ Sep 10 2008, 11:19 AM) | | QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 10 2008, 09:37 AM) | id do sum original formula 4AD TRANS. u cud do a 8 week cycle w/ that & fuck till ur both are out of ur minds. im guessing most can prolly stack 4AD w/ either hdrol, bold, propadrol, epi(depending how it reacts to ur libido) w/no libido probs w/enough 4AD.
or do a real injectable test cycle & just fuck her like a 900lb horny gorilla and jus go ape & clobber the shit out her.
id do either a 8 week 4AD TRANS cycle stacked w/ HGW,PT-141 or Melanotan 2 & maybe b4 AP do a cialis/Viagra combo for fun.
or do the same thing w/a 12 weeker Test cycle.
if u choose2 do either cycle, hopefully after the cycle ur girl wud be the one payin for future cycles to come hehe |
the reason I changed is because length of cycle not looking for something very long ie 8-12 weeks then PCT... I dont drink while on cycles at all and eat very very clean... she is very social likes going out and hosting parties so thats why I am cutting the length down. The bedroom is never a problem, LOL! I am also looking at replacing the propadrol with a tren supplement, too. Another reason why I am looking at running is I have a week off work coming up at the end of the month and was going to do 2-a-days, to really shock my muscles. Did it on my first SD cycle and put on 25lbs, with some crazy crazy increase in strength. So what do you think propadrol or tren stacked with havoc? |
a quick 4 week oral so u can quickly jump back to drinkin alcohol id go no methyl's 1AD, TREN, PROPADROL, 11-OXO - stacked 2 of any combo if ur guna stack if i really wanted to do a ph/ds that was methylated id pick H-DROL or HAVOC/EPI id pick H-DROL over HAVOC/EPI as a standalone & 4 stacking.
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| QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 10 2008, 12:38 PM) | | QUOTE (Stephen57799 @ Sep 10 2008, 11:19 AM) | | QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 10 2008, 09:37 AM) | id do sum original formula 4AD TRANS. u cud do a 8 week cycle w/ that & fuck till ur both are out of ur minds. im guessing most can prolly stack 4AD w/ either hdrol, bold, propadrol, epi(depending how it reacts to ur libido) w/no libido probs w/enough 4AD.
or do a real injectable test cycle & just fuck her like a 900lb horny gorilla and jus go ape & clobber the shit out her.
id do either a 8 week 4AD TRANS cycle stacked w/ HGW,PT-141 or Melanotan 2 & maybe b4 AP do a cialis/Viagra combo for fun.
or do the same thing w/a 12 weeker Test cycle.
if u choose2 do either cycle, hopefully after the cycle ur girl wud be the one payin for future cycles to come hehe |
the reason I changed is because length of cycle not looking for something very long ie 8-12 weeks then PCT... I dont drink while on cycles at all and eat very very clean... she is very social likes going out and hosting parties so thats why I am cutting the length down. The bedroom is never a problem, LOL! I am also looking at replacing the propadrol with a tren supplement, too. Another reason why I am looking at running is I have a week off work coming up at the end of the month and was going to do 2-a-days, to really shock my muscles. Did it on my first SD cycle and put on 25lbs, with some crazy crazy increase in strength. So what do you think propadrol or tren stacked with havoc? |
a quick 4 week oral so u can quickly jump back to drinkin alcohol id go no methyl's 1AD, TREN, PROPADROL, 11-OXO - stacked 2 of any combo if ur guna stack if i really wanted to do a ph/ds that was methylated id pick H-DROL or HAVOC/EPI id pick H-DROL over HAVOC/EPI as a standalone & 4 stacking. |
done both Hdrol and Havoc, liked Havoc for gaining strength and mass while Hdrol is great on a cut/recomp 1AD no longer available excpet for AMS verson which not really sure about that verson. 11oxo is not cost effective and not good for strength and muscle mass. Would be sick with Hdrol though on a recomp!!! Havent thought about a tren/ propadrol cycle but liked having the anti-estro protection of havoc. Many sides reported with the tren products? what i have found on both tren and propadrol: Finigenix Magnum Innovators: PharmagenX Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione Dosages: 50-75mg Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin. Expect tren-like sides. Reputation: This is a prohormone to dienolone (similar to M-diene). Decent for recomp and increases in strength. Propadrol: Innovator: EST Nutrition Nomenclures: 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene & 6-17 dihydroxyetiocholone-3-ol proponate Dosages: 1-2 caps daily Side effects: low side effects Reputation: User's who've taken it have reported great decreases in bodyfat, while increasing musclemass and strength. Not much data is present on this compound within this forum. NOTE: this is does not contain the same compound as Max LMG. They are close, but no cigar. aggrevation of gyno kinda worries me and makes me question it?
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if u want 1-AD & 11-OXO, the original 1-AD formula it is still available. if ur worried about legalities in the U.S.A & Canada u prolly wud shy away from risks its still illegal here. w/ 11-oxo id go the 11-test route for $16.99 a bottle. a 11-oxo clone.
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| QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 10 2008, 01:40 PM) | if u want 1-AD & 11-OXO, the original 1-AD formula it is still available. if ur worried about legalities in the U.S.A & Canada u prolly wud shy away from risks its still illegal here.
w/ 11-oxo id go the 11-test route for $16.99 a bottle. a 11-oxo clone. |
Yeah saw the 11 test the other day, peaked my interest. Would be interested to see a cut/recomp with hdrol, tren and 11oxo. Espeically with the reviews over at AM with the recomp ability with hdrol and tren and people reporting getting shredded in 4 week cycle. I ran a Hdrol (50/50/50/75) with Havoc (20/20/20/30)cycle and saw awsome recomp effect got down to 180ish and 5% BF with no cardio. Switched from an Havoc pulse because was not seeing much was on for about 2 weeks, thats why the havoc doses were lower. Plus was running 2 methyls.
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| QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 10 2008, 01:40 PM) | if u want 1-AD & 11-OXO, the original 1-AD formula it is still available. if ur worried about legalities in the U.S.A & Canada u prolly wud shy away from risks its still illegal here.
w/ 11-oxo id go the 11-test route for $16.99 a bottle. a 11-oxo clone. |
If you look at 11test vs 11oxo the caps are different.... 50mg per cap in 11test: 50mg x 60 caps = 3000mg ---> $17/3000 = $0.0056667/mg 225mg in 3 caps of 11oxo so thats 75mg per cap: 75mg x 60 = 4500mg ----> $34/4500=$0.0075556/mg So yeah turns out it is cheaper to go the 11test way!!! I am a number guy LOL!!!
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havoc + propadrol
