Hey all,

Its been some time since I have posted (new house, kids etc) and since the ban, I feel as if I am completely out of the loop on the new so called "PH". I was user of 1 ad- 4's derms and pills and have had great gains with those porducts. I stocked up quit a bit before the ban, but during the move several boxes of my stuff got lost. Needless to say, I cried for several days!

Moving on to the question I have about a new cycle. It will be short, no longer then 6 weeks as I will be going on vacaton soon. I am thinking about H-Drol, D-drol, M-drol, P-Plex. Im not sure what is the best way to go or if these will counter act against each other. I am not looking to take all 4 at once (im nuts but not crazy)

I'm just lost on the ingredients and need some feedback. My protein and pct are good.

thanks for the help

MDrol and Plex are the harshest of the ones you mentioned. You'd only be able to run them for 3 wks (MDrol) and 4 wks (Plex). Hdrol could be ran for 4-5 wks. Havoc's a newer one and the least harsh of all the orals and could also be ran for 4-5 wks. Pick your poison.

just what I wanted to know- thanks bro

yea agreed with grossman, so look into havoc and also epistane. another mild Ph with exceptional gains. but H-drol is pretty good. depends on which one you get cause i know theres 2 h-drols out there so go with the FAST ACTION company if you do, hear good things so far

I miss the days of avant labs, ergo pharm, BN bulk poweders when things where easy!

ergo pharm is still around dude

but now their products do nothing

Sorry meant to say, I miss the good ole stuff from Ergo- Yes I know they have a new product but ever since P.A. got involved with the break thru of PH and Clear - this man is a genious- Im just a little skeptical of the new products. I am not sure how much he is really involved. I remember when he used to post msg's and articles on another stores site in the msg forums.

But then again, who is to really say anything these days is any better, IMO, anything being sold to should be labeled as vitamins.

The true days of of real PH are gone.

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