Hey guys.. i'm sure everyone is sick and tired of this topic but I need a new fat burner and here is what I want it for: I want to burn fat, tighten up my body, I want to have energy for many hours and a mood enhancement would be a plus as well. I loved the original Stimulant X of the past and heard the new formula sucks, I heard the original Venom Hyperdrive was great, but the new formula sucks, my question is.. what is the good stuff that is out right now, the fat burner that really works and is the real deal because I have been out of the loop for a while?!?

As far as OTC options are concerned......
http://www.biotekpharm.com/default.php?cPath=6

stack with
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=4757

and
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=748

There are other options VIA the chem research pathway. They work way better than the products in the above links....but I wouldnt use that option unless you're geared.

you could always try lipo 6... people seem to like it , some get jitters though. if you want muslce gain and fat loss look into a cortisol modulator

woah woah woah, no ephedrine, I took that before including biotek and when I was on it I seriously wanted to kill myself. I am talking normal fat burner supplements. Lipo 6 I have heard of and is recommended, is it better then the venom hyperdrive? Also, anyone take the new formula of stimulant X?

oh yea, also do you guys get any shrinkage with these fat burners like some do with certain fat burner supps? I am talking lipo6, hyperdrive and Stimulant X if anyone knows.

thx

Stay away from the new Venom formula, blows!

So can anyone else give some input as to SCORCH, Lipo6, StimX, Hyperdrive etc.. I need a fat burner that works throughout the day, good energy, no shrunk junk, and I I don't want my body to get used to it quickly.

I tried stimulant X a few months back and it did nothing...

I have been told to try out Leviathan Reloaded also, how is that compared to the new hyperdrive and SCORCH which I was also recommended??

what is it that people don't like about the newest hyperdrive 3.0+?? I never tried any of the versions but am looking to get fat burners this week. I am looking at SCORCH, Leviathan Reloaded, and Hyperdrive. Also, is Lean Xtreme really necessary if I am not weight lifting/bulking??

I like stacking CLA, Lipo 6X, and Ephedrine for serious fat loss. Go easy with the ephedrine and ascess tolerance so your not all speeded out lol!

if your diet and cardio isnt upto scratch no fat burner is really going to do much for you

how come noboday ever talks or references Animal products?

cause they do nothing

oooo got ya so a stack with yellow devisl and asprin is better

where do you guys buy your ephedrine, I used to get Mega Pro Vasopro from 1fast400 but no longer exists, Biotek gave me horrible dizzy spells.. where can I order something reliable and good online?

hello i am new to this web site ... but i am really into fitness , i am not overweight
but i do have spots that i would like to get rid of fat and make my stomac tighter. i do take ephedrine and its really good , but you have to watch how much you take it gives you a boost of energy , but having to be really careful becasue it speeds up your heart rate, therefore making it dangerous. i would like to stop my
ephedrine cycle to maybe go to natural , or mixed . i really dont know what is good for loosing fat and getting more firm . I workout but i need that extra speed to move my fat and burn .


So if anybody has tryed something sufficient that works. if could be so kind a share please thanks.

alot of people have been giving good reviews to Lean Xtreme by Designer Supplements, it is a stimulant free fat burner and I actually just ordered a bottle to try it out so I can't tell you my opinion but you can search for yourself.