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Posted: Sep 2 2008, 04:47 AM
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So i can get my hands on both of the original products but im not too sure what would be the better cycle.

Just looking for a bit of advice from anyone who's used any of these products in the past.

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Posted: Sep 2 2008, 07:38 AM
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original 1AD/4AD formula is awesum. expect dramatic gains if ur trainin & diet is on point.

IMHO a SD/4AD sounds like fun biggrin.gif if u havnt dun either yet... id go 1AD/4AD before SD.

i wud also do the 11-OXO bridge (which is recommended for 1AD) inbetween ur main cycle & PCT to solidify ur gains from either 1AD or SD. u can use 11 TEST which is a 11-OXO clone for around $16 a bottle.

watever choice u make, i wud suggest stackin 4AD w/either 1AD or SD. personally i think its always best2 hav test in a cycle & go the transdermal route w/4AD

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Posted: Sep 2 2008, 08:42 AM
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You can run all 3 bro. Just keep the SD dose low.


Week 1: 10mg SD/300mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad (oral)
Week 2: 10mg SD/300mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad
Week 3: 10mg SD/300mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad
Week 4: 500mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad
Week 5: 500mg 1-ad/1000mg 4ad
Week 6: 500mg 1-ad/1000mg 4ad


The 1ad/4ad alone would probably suffice though. I personally didnt see great gains with 1ad, probably because it didnt convert well with me.

Save your money on the SD though...im sure you can get a clone for way cheaper. Just buy more 4ad with the money you saved. best PH by far.

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Posted: Sep 2 2008, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Sep 2 2008, 08:42 AM)
You can run all 3 bro. Just keep the SD dose low.

Week 1: 10mg SD/300mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad (oral)
Week 2: 10mg SD/300mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad
Week 3: 10mg SD/300mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad
Week 4: 500mg 1-ad/800mg 4ad
Week 5: 500mg 1-ad/1000mg 4ad
Week 6: 500mg 1-ad/1000mg 4ad

damn why didnt i think of that hehe biggrin.gif

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Thanks Jay!

I think im going to hit up that 1AD/4AD stack sounds pretty awesome cool.gif

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Posted: Sep 2 2008, 08:56 PM
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I'd do what Jay suggested. If everything was done right, you should see awesome gains w/ that cycle.

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indeed, best of luck, try to keep updates on your exp/gains
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1-AD/4AD is an insane stack.
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Doogs, check PMs.
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Do you guys think that capping 1AD + 4AD powders would be just as effective as applying them transdermally?

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QUOTE (Doogsy @ Sep 9 2008, 09:25 AM)
Do you guys think that capping 1AD + 4AD powders would be just as effective as applying them transdermally?

4AD works better transdermally

1AD works better orally


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4 with the transdermal

1 oral

best results- oh just thinking about those days when id get up in the A.m., squirt some on the thigh and a slab on the bicep.

That tangy smell from Avant Labs

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anyone remember the painfull cries you would let out if you accidentally rubbed this gel over your nipple biggrin.gif
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