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sneakypete
Posted: Aug 29 2008, 10:29 AM
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hey guys, I am prepared for the inevitable flaming I will get for asking this, but here goes. I have left over 1-ad, and no 4-ad. I've read about epi/havoc having positive effects on libido. Is it beneficial to stack these two? Or would it be useless? Thanks.
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Posted: Aug 29 2008, 10:47 AM
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yes.


you just might get some sides.

adding test would be your best bet but i'm guessing that isnt what you want to do.

go ahead and run it just be prepared for some sides. lethargy, aggression, ect

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Posted: Aug 29 2008, 10:47 AM
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Should be good to go. It's probably the best choice if you're not gonna run test and have no access to 4AD. The only person I've heard that had a negative effect from Havoc was Arnoldclone...but he's a faggot so it's to be expected. I did 2 Epi cycles was horny 24/7.

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Posted: Aug 29 2008, 11:02 AM
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ya i was hard as shit on havoc as well.

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sneakypete
Posted: Aug 29 2008, 11:10 AM
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awesome, finally a suitable replacement. Anything OTC that you can recommend for PCT? Thanks guys.
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Posted: Aug 29 2008, 01:53 PM
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OTC? id get a SERM for sure dude. but also add in any other OTC that you want. novede xt, shit like that yaddamean
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Yeah man you'll def need a serm, especially if you're gonna stack the two. You'd need a serm with just 1AD by itself.

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Posted: Aug 29 2008, 03:27 PM
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Agreed SERM is needed here smile.gif

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sneakypete
Posted: Aug 29 2008, 05:13 PM
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now to figure out how to find that ....

thanks guys.
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Posted: Aug 29 2008, 10:18 PM
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Yup, you definitely need some sperm
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Posted: Aug 30 2008, 03:56 PM
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Will109090
Posted: Aug 30 2008, 09:40 PM
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Why not run the Havoc solo and sell me the 1-AD? biggrin.gif
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Posted: Aug 31 2008, 04:03 PM
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1AD was a libido killer for me even running transdermal 4-AD. It's good stuff, but still be prepared for a depressed libido no matter what. Everyone's different, but that was my experience running 2 or 3 cycles of it WITH the 4-AD.

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Posted: Sep 1 2008, 12:50 AM
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Posted: Sep 3 2008, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Aug 31 2008, 04:03 PM)
1AD was a libido killer for me even running transdermal 4-AD. It's good stuff, but still be prepared for a depressed libido no matter what. Everyone's different, but that was my experience running 2 or 3 cycles of it WITH the 4-AD.

Interesting. When I ran 1-AD/4AD stack, my libido was higher than normal.
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