hey, i'm currently running a H-Drol knockoff (2x25mg/day) and Tren (2-3x25mg/day), and have been on for about 1 1/2 weeks. today i went for a run, and my calves were cramping so bad i couldn't complete 2 miles. this has been getting progressivley worse since starting these....

i decied i'm going to start PCT tommmorrow, since i have a couple PT tests coming up for the PD and Guard, so i HAVE to be able to run.

my question is, has anyone else had this issue before? the cramping is localized to my calves, and only when running. decent pumps otherwise, and i had about a 5lb shift in LBM since starting. it sucks, because i've had very quick results, and with the exception of my calves, no sides at all.

i used Hdrol with my injectable test/tren cycle and had the same problems.

I locked my keys in the car one night at the store and had to walk back home, aprox 2 miles. The pump in my shins and calves were un-fuckin-real. I had to literally stop every 50 feet or so and lean on traffic signs and shit.

Nothing helped. Taurine does nothing for it. I use taurine though for other reasons, not for pumps. It doesnt assist for me.

I just kept cardio to a minimum. and remembered not to lock my keys in the car like an idiot.

The pumps were a surprise to me though. i already knew about tren and pulmonary issues but never figured crippling lower leg cramps.

ur using all orals so you should be fine since they eliminate really quick from the system.

shin pumps? that sounds narly dude. so what exactly would cause that

that usually happens when mixing a methyl and a tren product. Its sumthing u got to get used to.

i always have that issue when running orals.... i get nasty calf pumps, and even forearm pumps if i'm doing alot of bicep work

not sure how to help it other than maybe extra carbs, taurine, and water