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> Pulsing - if u had to make a choice which 1?, HARSH compounds,might as well go crazy!
  
Posted: Aug 19 2008, 11:01 AM
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for obvious reasons the pulse method is chosen. if u had to make a choice, which 1 out of the 3 wud u pick?

CHOICE 1# Decabolen 60caps by CTD Labs - Halodrol, Superdrol, Phera-Plex


CHOICE 2# Hemobolin 250 by Pharma Resources - Halodrol, Superdrol, Hemaguno(EPI/HAVOC)


CHOICE 3# Monster Pak 30 paks by Fast Action - Superdrol, Tren xtreme, Creatine Ester and AAKG with full cycle support all in one pak. (for choice 3 is also guna be stacked with either Halo, Epi/Havoc, or any other recommendations?)



pretty much each choice is around $50.

Choice #3 is guna cost a little more becuz another compound is being purchased separately but the monster pack comes w/full cycle support so its more cost efficient @the end.

if u cud make ur own custom oral abuser stack w/ 3 compounds, what wud u choice in a pulse?


FYI - standard PCT (SERM/AI) will also follow when the pulse cycle is done.

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Posted: Aug 19 2008, 11:52 AM
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NONE!!! I hope this is a joke.

"quantity does not always equal quality"
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Posted: Aug 19 2008, 12:01 PM
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Do choice 1,2,3fuck it who needs a liver right?
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Aug 19 2008, 12:01 PM)
choice one

or just run 60mg of phera for 6 weeks

60mg for 6 weeks ohmy.gif

I agree I would not do any of them smile.gif

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Posted: Aug 19 2008, 12:25 PM
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Whats the problem?
(obviously i wudnt run this cycle as a straight threw oral cycle)

Remember its a pulse cycle. im not takin doses everyday & i wana experiment w/pulse cycles (MWF - 8 weeks)

people have dun pulse cycles w/ superdrol @high doses w/no sides or pct. the compounds in the 3 choices are not even dosed high.

if im guna pulse...might as well go all out & honestly i dun even find it that crazy when using the pulse method.

guna use Cycle Support by Anabolic Innovations & horny goat weed every day during the whole 8 week pulse.

dhea/testofen/ai/cortisol blocker/a higher then normal liver sup/ on off days (TTSS - 8 weeks)

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SERM/AI/Cortisol blocker/POST Cycle Support & STOKED! by Anabolic Innovations

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Posted: Aug 19 2008, 12:40 PM
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look @FISHDOG'S Epi pulse w/no supports what so ever during the cycle.

He also only did one week of PCT with an AI, and some Clomid to blow the nuts back up.

http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=44156

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Posted: Aug 19 2008, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Aug 19 2008, 12:01 PM)
choice one

or just run 60mg of phera for 6 weeks

cool! its funny that u chose CHOICE #1

DECABOLEN is selling the most from the 3 choices

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Posted: Aug 19 2008, 02:30 PM
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you are going to pulse this for 8 weeks...???

what have you run in the past?
Have you run cycles of just SD or Havoc or PP or Hdrol?

This just sounds very unhealthy to me, but maybe I just like my body working properly too much?
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Posted: Aug 19 2008, 02:39 PM
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guna pulse for 8 weeks M-W-F w/all those supports

bottle comes with 60 caps looking @ 1 cap pre work out & 1 cap post work out

last week of pulse 2 caps pre work out & 2 caps post work out


ive only done a cycle of original 1AD & 4AD for 3 weeks

made a attempt w/EPI / 11-OXO / 4AD transdermal (original) cycle but bailed out @week 3




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a safer stack w/less methyls if really needed wud be choice three w/ 1AD (new stuff) &more SD but @a higher cost dry.gif

im not using the old 1AD becuz i dun really feel like obtaining the compound from another source & pay more for shipping.


or i cud run choice #2 &up the dose for 6 weeks &use the remaining last 2 weeks w/my left over Epi for a total of 8 weeks

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QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:39 PM)
guna pulse for 8 weeks M-W-F w/all those supports

bottle comes with 60 caps looking @ 1 cap pre work out & 1 cap post work out

last week of pulse 2 caps pre work out & 2 caps post work out


ive only done a cycle of original 1AD & 4AD for 3 weeks

made a attempt w/EPI / 11-OXO / 4AD transdermal (original) cycle but bailed out @week 3

I would have to say... NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Decabolen is 10 mg SD, 10 mg PP and 25 mg Hdrol

And you wann take that 1 cap pre and 1 cap post = 20 mg SD 20mg PP and 50 HDrol

Then bump it up too... 2 caps pre and 2 post??? = 40 mg SD 40 mg PP and 100 mg Hdrol.

You havent run any major cycles before!!! Why did you bail on the Epi/11oxo/4ad after 3 weeks? How did you do with the orginal 1ad/4ad cycle you ran?
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QUOTE (Stephen57799 @ Aug 19 2008, 02:58 PM)
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guna pulse for 8 weeks M-W-F w/all those supports

bottle comes with 60 caps looking @ 1 cap pre work out & 1 cap post work out

last week of pulse 2 caps pre work out & 2 caps post work out


ive only done a cycle of original 1AD & 4AD for 3 weeks

made a attempt w/EPI / 11-OXO / 4AD transdermal (original) cycle but bailed out @week 3

I would have to say... NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Decabolen is 10 mg SD, 10 mg PP and 25 mg Hdrol

And you wann take that 1 cap pre and 1 cap post = 20 mg SD 20mg PP and 50 HDrol

Then bump it up too... 2 caps pre and 2 post??? = 40 mg SD 40 mg PP and 100 mg Hdrol.

When you havent run any major cycles before? Why did you bail on the Epi/11oxo/4ad after 3 weeks? How did you do with the orginal 1ad/4ad cycle you ran?

i have to disagree becuz the decabolen is being pulsed M-W-F & if not overkill w/a very strong line of supports.


There r people that ran decabolen as a straight threw. i wud say no to that.


ive completed a straight threw w/ original 1AD & 4AD which is very potent.


i bailed out w/my second cycle becuz the timing was off. summer came & i had social obligations that pulled me away w/my last cycle

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oh the 1AD/4AD cycle was very successful.

i gained close 2 10lbs in 3 weeks ran shitty PCT w/jus 6-OXO becuz i didnt know any better during that time.

keep all my gains 7-8 months down the road but then i stop SFW becuz of social obligations and slowly over a very long long long period of time i got out of shape.

the reason why i started to do PH\AAS is to recover from a injury w/my arm. My arm went threw glass, the doctor told me my arm was suppose to be paralyze but for sum reason wasn't. THANK GOD! smile.gif

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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Aug 19 2008, 03:28 PM)
about your arm....

sometimes steroids can make you stronger than what your ligaments and tendons can handle. Just be careful with your injury, you dont want to make it worse.

THX MAN! smile.gif

its been 4 years since my injury, i hope my arm shud be fully recovered by now. except for the cool scar i got & maybe sum missing fascia. But ur right, i gota becareful to avoid situations like this http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=44219 ohmy.gif

i dun wana make it worse.

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QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Aug 19 2008, 03:05 PM)
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QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:39 PM)
guna pulse for 8 weeks M-W-F w/all those supports

bottle comes with 60 caps looking @ 1 cap pre work out & 1 cap post work out

last week of pulse 2 caps pre work out & 2 caps post work out


ive only done a cycle of original 1AD & 4AD for 3 weeks

made a attempt w/EPI / 11-OXO / 4AD transdermal (original) cycle but bailed out @week 3

I would have to say... NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Decabolen is 10 mg SD, 10 mg PP and 25 mg Hdrol

And you wann take that 1 cap pre and 1 cap post = 20 mg SD 20mg PP and 50 HDrol

Then bump it up too... 2 caps pre and 2 post??? = 40 mg SD 40 mg PP and 100 mg Hdrol.

When you havent run any major cycles before? Why did you bail on the Epi/11oxo/4ad after 3 weeks? How did you do with the orginal 1ad/4ad cycle you ran?

i have to disagree becuz the decabolen is being pulsed M-W-F & if not overkill w/a very strong line of supports.


There r people that ran decabolen as a straight threw. i wud say no to that.


ive completed a straight threw w/ original 1AD & 4AD which is very potent.


i bailed out w/my second cycle becuz the timing was off. summer came & i had social obligations that pulled me away w/my last cycle

So you disagree with me because it is being pulsed, fair enough. Just something I would not pulse due to the highly toxic nature of 2 of the supplements (SD and PP). Not to mention you are running 3 methyls. I understand that pulsing is suppose to reduce SE but just not in this case. I could maybe see pusling either SD or PP for 8 weeks.

Why dont you run either SD or PP for 4 weeks and see how it goes? I dont have personal experience with PP but I know my first cycle of SD was 10/20/20/20 and gained 18lbs... went from 180ish to close to 200 on a 4000 a day clean diet, but was also doing 2-a-days. If it was me, I would get some Havoc/Epi and run it for 4-5 weeks, this stuff gives great strength and size gains without being overly toxic like the other two. Use proper support supps and PCT. I think you will be surpirsed with the results. I know your body and liver will thank you in the long run.

listen to joseph if you have a injury you dont want to use these compounds. your strength dramatically increases overnight and if you are injuried just a recipe for more injuries.
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if i where to run a oral cycle again i wud only pulse.

straight threw oral cycles make me feel like shit i wont ever do one again unless i was taking large amounts of 4AD transdermal or injecting test.


i hoping this pulse cycle will giv me a large amount of gains.

It shud be better this time around becuz my 1st & the 2nd attempt my diet was way off.

i took enough protein but i was still carb depleted, not takin enough fats & on a calorie deficient.

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QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Aug 19 2008, 04:01 PM)
if i where to run a oral cycle again i wud only pulse.

straight threw oral cycles make me feel like shit i wont ever do one again unless i was taking large amounts of 4AD transdermal or injecting test.


i hoping this pulse cycle will giv me a large amount of gains.

It shud be better this time around becuz my 1st & the 2nd attempt my diet was way off.

i took enough protein but i was still carb depleted, not takin enough fats & on a calorie deficient.

I seriously hope this is just a big joke of a thread...

You have not run any true cycles except for 1ad with 4ad... how do you know you feel like crap on oral cycles? Are you judging this from your epi/11oxo/4ad cycle ?

Well good luck with this dumb pulse cycle (like was said above, more is not always better)... if your liver and kidneys start to shutdown you will REALLY feel like crap. Hope you have looked a blood work of people that have run this stuff, even on a pulse not going to be pretty. They can say they are fine but if no blood work was done then they really do not know for sure.

FYI: Preload all your support supps starting 3 weeks or so before you start. And run this throughout the cycle and throughout PCT.

*****Please anyone that reads this DO NOT follow this cycle unless you are VERY experienced with PH/steroids and know what you are getting into, even then its not a good idea.*****
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Are you unhappy with the 10lbs you can gain from a normal DS cycle? The gains aren't going to be that insane from taking a bunch of them. The reason people gain more on injectable is because you can take them for longer. Taking a bunch of roids for 8 weeks isn't going to make you that much bigger than taking one for 8. The body can only pack on so much retainable muscle in that amount of time, and one DS would cover this.
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QUOTE (Stephen57799 @ Aug 19 2008, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Aug 19 2008, 04:01 PM)
if i where to run a oral cycle again i wud only pulse.

straight threw oral cycles make me feel like shit i wont ever do one again unless i was taking large amounts of 4AD transdermal or injecting test.


i hoping this pulse cycle will giv me a large amount of gains. 

It shud be better this time around becuz my 1st & the 2nd attempt my diet was way off. 

i took enough protein but i was still carb depleted, not takin enough fats & on a calorie deficient.

I seriously hope this is just a big joke of a thread...

You have not run any true cycles except for 1ad with 4ad... how do you know you feel like crap on oral cycles? Are you judging this from your epi/11oxo/4ad cycle ?

Well good luck with this dumb pulse cycle (like was said above, more is not always better)... if your liver and kidneys start to shutdown you will REALLY feel like crap. Hope you have looked a blood work of people that have run this stuff, even on a pulse not going to be pretty. They can say they are fine but if no blood work was done then they really do not know for sure.

FYI: Preload all your support supps starting 3 weeks or so before you start. And run this throughout the cycle and throughout PCT.

*****Please anyone that reads this DO NOT follow this cycle unless you are VERY experienced with PH/steroids and know what you are getting into, even then its not a good idea.*****

how many cycles do i need to run?

i did 1AD/4AD successfully w/the minimums w/out the knowledge i have 2day.

1AD/4AD r top of the line PHS

1AD converts 2 1-TEST & 4AD converts TEST which people reported that they cudnt tell the difference from injectable test & 4AD.

4AD also shuts u down harder then injectable Test, reason being that with an injection or oral steroid, their is a 'spike' in hormone levels.

my attempt w/ EPI\11-0XO\4DERM was also very successful as in strength, i added 30lbs+ w/ all my lifts w/in those 2.5-3weeks.

i bailed out becuz of social obligations. i choice to stop, over the cycle. that was a no brainer for me. I can alwas do another cycle @ a more convient time.

i felt like shit both cycles excluding week 1. i even ran 4AD w/both of those cycles & still hated it. so i know i hate orals cycles. the only time i liked being on was in the gym during those 2 oral cycles. this is why im guna experiment w/pulsing.

@ the beggining of my post my question was "Pulsing - if u had to make a choice which 1?" & i laid out the options.

i know how 2 cycle & i hav a excellent line of over kill of supports 4 before, threw out & pct. i also hav a serm for on hand during the pulse & pct.

the only thing i can agree w/u on is the last week @2caps w/DECABOLIN & *****Please anyone that reads this DO NOT follow this cycle unless you are VERY experienced with PH/steroids and know what you are getting into, even then its not a good idea.*****

im not guna get fucked over w/this pulse cycle or run into complications w/my choices & layout structure of compounds.

people have done 8 week M-W-F Superdrol pulse cycles @40-50mg+ w/no problems. Since im guna pulse im guna push it to its limit.

im also guna make sum adjustments thxs 2 ur input & im guna do a extra week @the beginning to complete the bottle or save for left overs

other then that whats the problem...?

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