Natural bodybuilders are so small!

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Posted by: Reza2 Jul 19 2008, 10:09 AM
I mean jesus christ looking at some of these natural bodybuilders realy makes me want to take steroids. they look like skinny twigs! (not to mention this is the natural bodybuilding championship!) can a natural bodybuilder realy not get any bigger than that?!!
look at some these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuxsQN86rs0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdaKgjcnzM
some of these are "heavy weights" in natural bodybuilding this is the most de motivating thing i have ever seen

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 19 2008, 10:46 AM
Why are you so concerned about what OTHERS are doing. After all they are the ones on stage and what are you doing? Brand new to some forum to post and talk shit about other people? Bodybuilding is an individual sport jackass. If you dont like em, dont watch em. Simply put. Either that, or go meet gearskie and you two can become best friends biggrin.gif

Posted by: gearskie Jul 19 2008, 11:31 AM
what do i have to do with this?

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 19 2008, 11:32 AM
QUOTE (gearskie @ Jul 19 2008, 11:31 AM)
what do i have to do with this?

Cause youre all about the juice, n this kids makin it clear he is too.

Posted by: gearskie Jul 19 2008, 11:36 AM
i like to use gears. i dont care if other people do. and i've stated several times that i respect natty bodybuilding as much as un natty. either way, i'd never do a show


its not like you're natural. the difference is i chose to go the safer route and pin smile.gif

Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 19 2008, 11:37 AM
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Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 19 2008, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (gearskie @ Jul 19 2008, 11:36 AM)
i like to use gears. i dont care if other people do. and i've stated several times that i respect natty bodybuilding as much as un natty. either way, i'd never do a show


its not like you're natural. the difference is i chose to go the safer route and pin smile.gif

Yeah but the differnce with me, is if I come off, very few would noticed..As Ive been off for 2 months, with little change..You come off, and you return to your peewee like build. I choose not to get in over my head knowing its not "real muscle" Simply rented muscle.

Posted by: Reza2 Jul 19 2008, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 19 2008, 11:41 AM)
QUOTE (gearskie @ Jul 19 2008, 11:36 AM)
i like to use gears. i dont care if other people do. and i've stated several times that i respect natty bodybuilding as much as un natty. either way, i'd never do a show


its not like you're natural. the difference is i chose to go the safer route and pin  smile.gif

Yeah but the differnce with me, is if I come off, very few would noticed..As Ive been off for 2 months, with little change..You come off, and you return to your peewee like build. I choose not to get in over my head knowing its not "real muscle" Simply rented muscle.

I am doin alot FYI.
Ill post videos of my body transformation on youtube soon of my body transformation.
I was a pear now i have a 4 pack which is pretty visible.
It's just de motivating to see people who are supposed to be the peak of natural bodybuilding. Just wanted to share why you such an aggressive guy? wtf is wrong with you?

Posted by: gearskie Jul 19 2008, 12:16 PM
ya ya I like how you make shit up.

just remember that I warm up with your max and have done so before any cycle.

puny? my legs how many inches bigger than yours midget?

Posted by: Jayv24 Jul 19 2008, 12:39 PM
QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 19 2008, 11:41 AM)
QUOTE (gearskie @ Jul 19 2008, 11:36 AM)
i like to use gears. i dont care if other people do. and i've stated several times that i respect natty bodybuilding as much as un natty. either way, i'd never do a show


its not like you're natural. the difference is i chose to go the safer route and pin  smile.gif

Yeah but the differnce with me, is if I come off, very few would noticed..As Ive been off for 2 months, with little change..You come off, and you return to your peewee like build. I choose not to get in over my head knowing its not "real muscle" Simply rented muscle.

What are you talking about? lol Proper PCT, diet, training etc dictate whether you'll keep your gains or not. gearskie doesnt keep his gains because he probably doesnt eat or train hard enough. Plus he's gay.

But You can keep the majority of your gains. Granted a few Lbs. are lost as you're not synthesizing protein at freakish levels... thats a given.

Gearskie, i agree...If you're gonna use gear, pin it and make it worth your while.


back on topic: Some of those amateur BB'rs look like emaciated ethiopians. Like jacked up holocaust survivors. It almost looks painful as they flex their scrawny bodies into ugly shapes, with tendons and blood vessels protruding.

Posted by: tree33 Jul 19 2008, 12:51 PM
We got a guy in this forum that looks way better then those guys and is natural. He is not huge but he is about as cut as you can get.

Posted by: SFW_SFW Jul 19 2008, 01:03 PM
dude...look at rich. that guy is sooo jacked and hes natural. he prob has a better physique than 95% of the people on here. steroids arent for everyone and thats fine. its a personal choice. i think we should all just respect that they dont choose to use gear. a lot of these guys see natural bbing as more of a challenge and thus more rewarding with the results. most of them dont knock steroid users so why knock them for not using...? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: yeashescool Jul 19 2008, 01:14 PM
who gives a fuck what they look like? this doesnt even look like a heavyweight class IMO, ive seen natty guys bigger. So stfu d bag


to the OP of course

Posted by: Zephyr Jul 19 2008, 01:20 PM
Would ecdysterone be considered "natural", since it is derived from plants? I think so, because it is recomended in muscle and fitness, and they don't ever recommend hard steroids, although ecdy has been said to be around d-bol in strength...ah, the glory of bug hormones! Just a little side question if ne one knows off the top of their heads.

O and I think you can get significantly bigger naturally, in the Arnold Encyclopedia, they show those 1920's guys that were quite a bit more buff, if they knew how to train the way we know now they would be maybe a shade smaller than arnold himself, i suppose.

Posted by: tree33 Jul 19 2008, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (Zephyr @ Jul 19 2008, 01:20 PM)
Would ecdysterone be considered "natural", since it is derived from plants? I think so, because it is recomended in muscle and fitness, and they don't ever recommend hard steroids, although ecdy has been said to be around d-bol in strength...ah, the glory of bug hormones! Just a little side question if ne one knows off the top of their heads.

O and I think you can get significantly bigger naturally, in the Arnold Encyclopedia, they show those 1920's guys that were quite a bit more buff, if they knew how to train the way we know now they would be maybe a shade smaller than arnold himself, i suppose.

Testosterone has been experimented with since 1849.

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 19 2008, 02:20 PM
Just another post for our raging hormones to run wild laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No one will ever win. Just do what you gotta do.. Cant hate for someone who works out n has the balls to step on stage...Just worry bout yourself...

But if you really wanna hate on stage pics....Azzfit? lol

Posted by: unstable Jul 19 2008, 06:40 PM
Bodybuilding is fucked. You know how little girls and teenage girls compare themselves to the models who are bolemic and anorexic because these bitches have the "ideal body"....Pro (not natural) Bodybuilding is the same fucking thing that incites young dumb kids to think that taking Weider supplements and working out is going to get them large.

I'm 100% for natural bodybuilding. It shows what is attainable through hard work and dedication...not what is possible if you are willing to hit the sauce.

Plus...look at Dorian Yates, Kevin Levrone and some of these other guys who were GIANTS just a few years back. Now they look like crack addicts. Why? Because their BALLS can't support the muscle that they put on while hitting the sauce. When you weigh 250+ and you are solid muscle, your balls can't support that shit. As soon as you come off the sauce, your muscle starts melting away.

Anyways...you can suck AZF's dick if you don't like natural bodybuilding, while eating the corn out of Orville Reddenbachers shit.


Posted by: Vaporize Jul 19 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (unstable @ Jul 19 2008, 06:40 PM)
Bodybuilding is fucked.  You know how little girls and teenage girls compare themselves to the models who are bolemic and anorexic because these bitches have the "ideal body"....Pro (not natural) Bodybuilding is the same fucking thing that incites young dumb kids to think that taking Weider supplements and working out is going to get them large.

I'm 100% for natural bodybuilding.  It shows what is attainable through hard work and dedication...not what is possible if you are willing to hit the sauce.

Plus...look at Dorian Yates, Kevin Levrone and some of these other guys who were GIANTS just a few years back.  Now they look like crack addicts.  Why?  Because their BALLS can't support the muscle that they put on while hitting the sauce.  When you weigh 250+ and you are solid muscle, your balls can't support that shit.  As soon as you come off the sauce, your muscle starts melting away.

Anyways...you can suck AZF's dick if you don't like natural bodybuilding, while eating the corn out of Orville Reddenbachers shit.


Haven't posted in a while but felt compelled, thanks unstable! anyway, here is a pic of a "crackhead" dorian yates

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Looks pretty good and solid to me...
And Levrone purposely shrank, is that ok with you? He felt he no longer needed or had the desire to lift like he used to and wanted to work on his acting career.

And one more nail in the coffin on your accusation, both of those guys are still on test (called HRT), so their balls aren't supporting anything. Any other things you want to make up? Atleast attempt to research please...

Posted by: rippedforce63 Jul 19 2008, 10:44 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3710671&highlight=doug+miller

Yeah natural bodybuilders are so small. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: gearskie Jul 19 2008, 11:28 PM
just smoked a giant bag of crack. hes in big trouble when he finds out u guys arent cool with what hes done.

Posted by: Jayv24 Jul 20 2008, 12:28 AM
Lets explore this once more.


Natty Vs. Gears




Natty:
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Gears:
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bye rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 20 2008, 12:30 AM
Natty vs Gear

Posted by: Jayv24 Jul 20 2008, 12:33 AM
lmfao holy god.

did the mother ship just beam him down onto the stage?

he looks confused and frightened.

That has to be a photoshop laugh.gif

Posted by: gearskie Jul 20 2008, 12:36 AM
L M A O.

Posted by: rich_55 Jul 20 2008, 09:42 AM
A few impressive natural physiques I posted in another thread:

Last year's WNBF World's

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New WNBF Pros from last month's Hercules show

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Posted by: Doogsy Jul 20 2008, 12:06 PM
QUOTE (Reza2 @ Jul 19 2008, 04:09 PM)
I mean jesus christ looking at some of these natural bodybuilders realy makes me want to take steroids. they look like skinny twigs! (not to mention this is the natural bodybuilding championship!) can a natural bodybuilder realy not get any bigger than that?!!
look at some these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuxsQN86rs0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdaKgjcnzM
some of these are "heavy weights" in natural bodybuilding this is the most de motivating thing i have ever seen

Damn is this the bodybuilders fresh out the concertration camps? blink.gif

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 20 2008, 12:09 PM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ Jul 20 2008, 12:06 PM)
QUOTE (Reza2 @ Jul 19 2008, 04:09 PM)
I mean jesus christ looking at some of these natural bodybuilders realy makes me want to take steroids. they look like skinny twigs! (not to mention this is the natural bodybuilding championship!)  can a natural bodybuilder realy not get any bigger than that?!!
look at some these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuxsQN86rs0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdaKgjcnzM
some of these are "heavy weights" in natural bodybuilding this is the most de motivating thing i have ever seen

Damn is this the bodybuilders fresh out the concertration camps? blink.gif

Jews dont bodybuild, supplements cost money.

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 20 2008, 12:10 PM
But that dude 2nd from the right in the black trunks looks sooo bad, no conditioning and cleary no pose training.

Posted by: Doogsy Jul 20 2008, 12:13 PM
QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 20 2008, 06:09 PM)
QUOTE (Doogsy @ Jul 20 2008, 12:06 PM)
QUOTE (Reza2 @ Jul 19 2008, 04:09 PM)
I mean jesus christ looking at some of these natural bodybuilders realy makes me want to take steroids. they look like skinny twigs! (not to mention this is the natural bodybuilding championship!)  can a natural bodybuilder realy not get any bigger than that?!!
look at some these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuxsQN86rs0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdaKgjcnzM
some of these are "heavy weights" in natural bodybuilding this is the most de motivating thing i have ever seen

Damn is this the bodybuilders fresh out the concertration camps? blink.gif

Jews dont bodybuild, supplements cost money.

Haha thats true! laugh.gif

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 20 2008, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (Vaporize @ Jul 19 2008, 07:29 PM)
both of those guys are still on test (called HRT)

Yeah....exactly...

Posted by: unstable Jul 20 2008, 02:03 PM
QUOTE (Vaporize @ Jul 19 2008, 07:29 PM)

Haven't posted in a while but felt compelled, thanks unstable! anyway, here is a pic of a "crackhead" dorian yates

Somehow my point was missed. Go grab the speak and spell while you read over this again.

Dorian Yates and Kevin Levrone look NOTHING like how they did when they were on mega-doses of the gel. It doesn't affect me personally how they look. Unlike you, I don't have some need to try to defend them or make excuses for them...I think most people can look at before/after pictures of Dorian and Kevin and pretty much tell that they either went on Jenny Craig or they aren't using the sauce like they used to.

Natural or Enhanced bodybuilding is still alot of hard work. I think enhanced guys have it a little easier than the natural guys because they can pop some pills, take some shots and ensure they are in an anabolic state. This is extra helpful when you're dieting and your body wants to immediately eat up MUSCLE for energy...enhanced guys, no problem...natural guys...big problem.

To try knocking natural guys is bullshit. I hope that eventually the natural scene will become larger and more prominent than the enhanced bullshit...then the young blood that is getting into the sport will be looking up to physiques that are attainable without fucking with drugs.

Don't get me wrong for a second...I'm a big fan of AAS myself, believe it or not. This NOS supplement bullshit does nothing to compare to the pumps you'll get running EQ. To take some sauce and hit the gym and actually see results is fucking awesome.

But when you really start looking at the pros/cons of the gear...it's kind of shitty that we've got this mindset to even fuck with it.

You can't acquire sauce from any reputable place. Pharmacy-grade gear is pretty much gone. You're buying shit that some asshole is brewing up in his bathtub at home. Who fucking knows what kind of nasty shit is living in the bottle. Aside from the normal risk of infection and absesses and all that crap how about picking up a fucking disease...why? So you can be jacked....beyond what your own balls can do for you.


Posted by: Doogsy Jul 20 2008, 02:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wz3YOlJFKU

Posted by: Grave Jul 21 2008, 07:10 PM
Wait a sec...Gears? Is that what they're calling Roids these days?

And by Roids i mean steroids, and not the retarded poster.

Edit: LOL at that pic above.

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 21 2008, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ Jul 20 2008, 02:04 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wz3YOlJFKU

Is that goodskie?

Posted by: typeRob Jul 21 2008, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (Grave @ Jul 21 2008, 07:10 PM)
Wait a sec...Gears? Is that what they're calling Roids these days?

And by Roids i mean steroids, and not the retarded poster.

Edit: LOL at that pic above.

no they are called graves

Posted by: potential87 Jul 22 2008, 09:52 AM
QUOTE (Reza2 @ Jul 19 2008, 10:09 AM)
I mean jesus christ looking at some of these natural bodybuilders realy makes me want to take steroids. they look like skinny twigs! (not to mention this is the natural bodybuilding championship!) can a natural bodybuilder realy not get any bigger than that?!!
look at some these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuxsQN86rs0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdaKgjcnzM
some of these are "heavy weights" in natural bodybuilding this is the most de motivating thing i have ever seen

If that is your take on bodybuilding and life you will never be happy. Someone will always be bigger and stronger. You just have to like what you have regardless of what the tape measure says.

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 22 2008, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (potential87 @ Jul 22 2008, 09:52 AM)
QUOTE (Reza2 @ Jul 19 2008, 10:09 AM)
I mean jesus christ looking at some of these natural bodybuilders realy makes me want to take steroids. they look like skinny twigs! (not to mention this is the natural bodybuilding championship!)  can a natural bodybuilder realy not get any bigger than that?!!
look at some these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuxsQN86rs0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdaKgjcnzM
some of these are "heavy weights" in natural bodybuilding this is the most de motivating thing i have ever seen

If that is your take on bodybuilding and life you will never be happy. Someone will always be bigger and stronger. You just have to like what you have regardless of what the tape measure says.

Exactly, thats what i tell peeps in the gym. Im so sick and tired of people in the gym trying to impress other dudes..Is that what you do it for really? For the affection and appreciation of guys? Ive dropped that ego trip, and mainly stick to the, "If Im happy bout the way I look, then good" Thats all that counts, cause unless you are a few select members on this board....Im not leaving the gym with those guys. Its when you start liftin for other people is when you fail.

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Jul 22 2008, 12:30 PM
QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 20 2008, 12:30 AM)
Natty vs Gear

wait....isnt that azfit?

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Jul 22 2008, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Jul 20 2008, 12:33 AM)
lmfao holy god.

did the mother ship just beam him down onto the stage?

he looks confused and frightened.

That has to be a photoshop laugh.gif

some people have the opposite of bigorexia, they look in the mirror, see hugeness and feel they are ready to compete in bodybuilding lol...

Posted by: goodskie Jul 22 2008, 12:38 PM
L M A O.

back when i worked at gnc, a ton "bodybuilders" came into the store right before and after this local untested show. soome of them were around 6ft and 170lbs JACKED.

another kid came in and i was talking to him about the upcomming show and he said he was in it and i couldnt believe him but didnt want to laugh in his face but he said he did it last year too. i asked him what place he got and he said last.

sooo many homos think they're ready to compete. if i were into that, i dont think i could step on stage at any weigh under 240 shredded

Posted by: Roids1 Jul 22 2008, 12:44 PM
Werd. If you're gonna do it, do it right. Some of these natty "bodybuilding" shows are about as exciting as watching women's basketball.

Posted by: goodskie Jul 22 2008, 01:28 PM
ya but the guys in rich's pics are pretty jacked

Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 22 2008, 02:18 PM
Probably cause they're some of the best in the country.


Posted by: gearskie Jul 22 2008, 02:22 PM
and geared 9 months out of the year, and on slin and hgh which cant be tested for blink.gif

Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 22 2008, 02:25 PM
Exactly. There are ways to do that.


Posted by: Roids1 Jul 22 2008, 03:50 PM
Werd! Because they're not truley natty.

Posted by: Lorken Jul 23 2008, 09:43 AM
I'd love to look like some of those natural body builders. Actually I'm shooting for that look. Big, but not so big I have to be juiced all the time to maintain. Just a little superhuman.

I just don't want to take 10 years to get there. biggrin.gif

Posted by: potential87 Jul 23 2008, 09:48 AM
QUOTE (Lorken @ Jul 23 2008, 09:43 AM)
I'd love to look like some of those natural body builders. Actually I'm shooting for that look. Big, but not so big I have to be juiced all the time to maintain. Just a little superhuman.

I just don't want to take 10 years to get there. biggrin.gif

same. I just do not know if ill ever be able to take the leap into roids.

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 23 2008, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (potential87 @ Jul 23 2008, 09:48 AM)
QUOTE (Lorken @ Jul 23 2008, 09:43 AM)
I'd love to look like some of those natural body builders. Actually I'm shooting for that look. Big, but not so big I have to be juiced all the time to maintain. Just a little superhuman.

I just don't want to take 10 years to get there. biggrin.gif

same. I just do not know if ill ever be able to take the leap into roids.

I know, I wanna live jacked...Not live to get jacked lol. I figure at my rate, by the time im 35 ish, ill be in awesome shape. Theres a 50 year in my gym who in phenominal shape...So its possible, but I wanna be huge now. Not then lol. But I see health, and the cost first. And Im happy the way I am.

Posted by: potential87 Jul 23 2008, 09:55 AM
QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 23 2008, 09:51 AM)
QUOTE (potential87 @ Jul 23 2008, 09:48 AM)
QUOTE (Lorken @ Jul 23 2008, 09:43 AM)
I'd love to look like some of those natural body builders. Actually I'm shooting for that look. Big, but not so big I have to be juiced all the time to maintain. Just a little superhuman.

I just don't want to take 10 years to get there. biggrin.gif

same. I just do not know if ill ever be able to take the leap into roids.

I know, I wanna live jacked...Not live to get jacked lol. I figure at my rate, by the time im 35 ish, ill be in awesome shape. Theres a 50 year in my gym who in phenominal shape...So its possible, but I wanna be huge now. Not then lol. But I see health, and the cost first. And Im happy the way I am.

Thats where i stand. Im content with who n what i am, but faster progress would be nice. I plan to stay in shape my whole life, jacked being the best situation. I would just like to do it sooner then later. Money is a big problem being on the college budget too. Then if there is a complication im pretty much screwed. Being 175 at about 10% is fine at 20. i still have many years to go, i figure next yr ill be a lean 185, not so bad

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jul 23 2008, 09:59 AM
Yeah , knock on wood, I plan on lookin good through 60, I know a 65 year old still benchin in the mid 200s, with awesome definition, and another whos almost 70, with crazy shoulder striations, works out everyday, and is also a kayak tour guide. Very inspirational.

Posted by: potential87 Jul 23 2008, 10:02 AM
My grandfather stayed jacked n cut until about 65, he now has diabetes. His new plan bc of his age n condition is to take the spring n half the summer off, then train so he can ski all winter. For a 71 yr old guy he still has abs pokin through and can outski many of the younger expert skiers. I would like to follow his example

Posted by: typeRob Jul 23 2008, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 23 2008, 09:59 AM)
Yeah , knock on wood, I plan on lookin good through 60, I know a 65 year old still benchin in the mid 200s, with awesome definition, and another whos almost 70, with crazy shoulder striations, works out everyday, and is also a kayak tour guide. Very inspirational.

theres a 72 year old at my gym who is jacked. he broke one of the cable machines there. he reps 90s on bench which is more than alot of younger guys in my gym and prob more than alot of guys on here.

Posted by: Queerskie Jul 23 2008, 09:47 PM
word theres a 96 yr old guy who comes into my gym every now and then. he doesnt walk in but someone pushes him in on his chair and he rolls in. hes not jacked but he looks like he sfw back in the day. he has nazi tats and hairy shoulders and that leathery tanned chest that sags down almost to his gut but my point is he could of used gears as a kid.

Posted by: gayv24inchspinners Jul 24 2008, 12:08 AM
shiiiit goodski, u almost as jacked as me in my avy!

fuck doe nig u way younger but who's mo pumped now homie? ya das what i thought.

m1t/ ecy baby! just think i was dat 3 years ago and in that short time i abused my body to fuck and now look at me. das right, a 30 year old single salon owner

Posted by: karl97518 Jul 25 2008, 08:33 AM
natty ftw