Ephedrine HCL

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Posted by: Eric Bohlen Feb 8 2004, 09:10 PM
I've heard a lot of substitutes for my ephedrine use, but I want to know if it's possible to order them overseas and get them shipped in country.

Posted by: prolangtum Feb 8 2004, 09:17 PM
You can still get Vasapro after the ban.

Posted by: Loki Feb 8 2004, 09:32 PM
Also-- in roughly one month-- Avant Labs will be releasing a non-sympathomimetic repartitioner-replacement for the classic E/C stack.

In the meantime (if you wish to avoid my shameless product pimping), I recommend using Vasopro stacked with an EF Thermogenic like SAN's Tight of Ergopharm's ErgoLean MC, or using an EF Thermogenic stack with something that targets DA (dopamine) action...

Posted by: 1Fast400 Feb 8 2004, 09:37 PM
Yes we will ship to your country. Since it is likely a banned item in your country we can't be responsible if it is caught by customs. We label the items on the customs slip as vitamins.

Posted by: prolangtum Feb 8 2004, 09:39 PM
Add some nicotine to that stack Loki outlined, and you have superb diet stack, or as the hip guys say "Ice Cold"

Posted by: Loki Feb 8 2004, 09:47 PM
QUOTE (prolangtum @ Feb 8 2004, 09:39 PM)
Add some nicotine to that stack Loki outlined, and you have superb diet stack, or as the hip guys say "Ice Cold"

While I agree with this wholeheartedly (as nicotine covers both DA & NE/NA among other pharmacokinetic effects), I don't necessarily recommend potentially-addictive substances for body-composition improvement unless all other (re: non-stringent) options have been exhausted.

Unless you are looking to get into the single digits in terms of BF %, I do not advocate nicotine use for phenotype enhancement (unless you are already a smoker and have no qualms about using supplemental nicotine in this way...).

Posted by: mike57 Feb 8 2004, 10:32 PM
There seems to be a lot of misunderstsnding about the upcomming ephedra ban. Ephedrine HCL and Ephedrine Sulfate are not affected by the ban when sold and labeled as Bronchodilators, so what's the problem! The vasopro is a good product and other sites sell the pure ephedrine HCL and Sulfate versions. The ephedra ban only affects products sold as diet and weight loss aids which contained the ephedra. The only way the ephedrine products could ever be banned (when sold as bronchodilators) is if they were made prescription drugs which is not likely to happen. A few states have banned the sale of all ephedrine containing products but you can still go into any drug store and buy primatine so go figure.

Posted by: dg806 Feb 9 2004, 07:27 PM
I wouldn't be too sure that they wouldn't ban it. All it would take is a few OD deaths to raise some eyebrows.

Posted by: Disturbed Feb 9 2004, 11:15 PM
QUOTE (prolangtum @ Feb 8 2004, 09:17 PM)
You can still get Vasapro after the ban.

After using the product the last few month's.. I'm convinced it is all I'll ever need..

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Posted by: shpongled Feb 10 2004, 12:41 AM
QUOTE (dg806 @ Feb 9 2004, 07:27 PM)
I wouldn't be too sure that they wouldn't ban it. All it would take is a few OD deaths to raise some eyebrows.

Overdose deaths have already occured... the thing is, ephedrine is an FDA approved drug, and they seem to be a lot less likely to be demonized.

Posted by: Sleazy Feb 10 2004, 08:40 PM
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Vasopro stacked with an EF Thermogenic like SAN's Tight


I have some SAN TIGHT left over, guess I will try this with my HCL.

What would be the benefit of using an EF thermogenic with the Vasopro instead of using it with a caffeine tab as most do?

Posted by: Kow Feb 10 2004, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (Sleazy @ Feb 10 2004, 08:40 PM)
QUOTE
Vasopro stacked with an EF Thermogenic like SAN's Tight


I have some SAN TIGHT left over, guess I will try this with my HCL.

What would be the benefit of using an EF thermogenic with the Vasopro instead of using it with a caffeine tab as most do?

Most EF thermos have caffeine already, usually 150-200mg per serving. Of course, Prolab's caffeine tabs are extremely cheap, but if you have some Tight, the E HCl + Tight stack is one of the best legal combos available. Another good one is E HCl + Ergolean MC.

Posted by: Dawn Little Feb 20 2004, 01:49 PM
Can anyone tell me what I am to use as a substitute for the ECA stackers I normally take, but am running low on. My husband and I work out regularly and have used and liked the ephedra results alot. So what do I do now!!!!
Please put it in laymen terms so that I may understand???
Dawn.

Posted by: lovetoeat Feb 20 2004, 03:36 PM
Vasopro ephedrine and Prolab caffeine, both can be found here and they're inexpensive.

Posted by: shpongled Feb 21 2004, 11:13 PM
QUOTE (Dawn Little @ Feb 20 2004, 01:49 PM)
Can anyone tell me what I am to use as a substitute for the ECA stackers I normally take, but am running low on. My husband and I work out regularly and have used and liked the ephedra results alot. So what do I do now!!!!
Please put it in laymen terms so that I may understand???
Dawn.

Another note on this, the aspirin is not really needed/desirable, although it may give a minor contribution to fat loss, it can also potentially inhibit the retention/gain of lean mass

Posted by: Ben james Mar 27 2004, 08:20 PM
As of late, I've heard Ephedrine is going to go prescription. All the gas stations are discontinuing all ephedrine after April 12, 2004. Even the ones like vasopro.

Posted by: jonny_boy123 Mar 31 2004, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (prolangtum @ Feb 8 2004, 09:17 PM)
You can still get Vasapro after the ban.

Really? I can still order vasapro after the ban??

Posted by: Kow Mar 31 2004, 04:14 PM
Yes, you can.

Posted by: poorboyj Jun 10 2004, 05:47 PM
I have a question. On my Tight bttle is says not to take more than 1 per day. This web site says no more than 3 per day. Which of these do I follow? The bottle label also states not to stack with Ephedrine. But people here are saying that stacking Tight with Ephedrine shows great results. What do I do?

Jay

Posted by: J_29579 Jun 27 2004, 07:33 PM
Dear forummers ,

And particularly the one who suggested the nicotine extra.

I'm a strong believer in the idea nicotine will signifantly boost effects. But how come Bulkn doesn't sell it ?

And if you do sell it, kindly point me to the right link , i've searched and searched. . .

Ofcourse I could buy the patches at _rediculous_ prices in local shops. But then, I wouldn't have any $$ left for toothpaste.

Anyone know of a decent nicotine product that won't cause bankrupcy after use ?
And ofcourse where to get it . . . ?

I'd b much obliged.

Cheers.


P.s. Admin. Maybe It's just me, but the font size of forum & shop is more then annoyingly small. Perhaps more ppl share this opinion ?

Posted by: shpongled Jun 27 2004, 11:32 PM
There would have to be an age verification process for every buyer. It would be a hassle. There would probably be a bunch of other hoops to jump through also.

Posted by: J_29579 Jul 1 2004, 03:10 PM
Remarkable.
I was guessing the CCard would b plenty of age verification. (Works 4 adult sites) . And since the nicotin seems to be a fairly popular pesticide I never guessed there was so much legislation wrapped around it .

Oh well. Maybe forget about it. Side fX seem 2 b more hassle then the prod. is worth anyway.

cheers !

Posted by: Tom21523 Aug 26 2004, 06:30 PM
hey genius, you still can get ephedrine hcl. it's on this site, listed in the category: bronchiodialaters. this is because it dialates the bronchial tubes, the very reason that it is used to treat athsma. by the way, the reason that they can sell it is because it is not intended as a stimulant or a weight loss product. and don't make it sound that way, cuz then it gets banned. why do you think that they are going through hell to ban prohormones right now? because people are advertising them as steroids, loopholes and ways to break the law. first of all, i'd like to make clear that they are not even close to which, and secondly, i would like to say that such actions bring forth much worse legal action. realizing how badly freedom is being attacked lately, don't do anything that would bring on any more opposition than we are already having. they said about the prohormones ban, what's next, creatine, glutamine, herbs and vitamins? well now they are trying to ban synephrine because people are calling it a "substitute" for ephedrine. it is not, it does many different things while only doing few similar things if any, which is why it shouldn't be banned. please discourage this "substitute" and "loophole" talk. and if you want your bronchiodialater, it's called vasopro, search for it in the search box. good luck.