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| Posted by: colin.muller Jul 5 2008, 02:10 PM |
| Im ready to start a new cycle of phs and have not been in the market since legal gears methyl masterdrol and halodrol had been taken off the market. There are so many new products and ways to stack that Im needing some advice on finding the products that fit the results I want, and also dosage. Im looking to load on some good size while keeping lean and have a very controlled diet to make it happen along with being a workout freak. Any suggestions for cycling a couple different products. I've heard different things about epistane, CEL's products, omnevol, and other similar products. I'd love to hear feedback from what other people have taken to attain a freak muscular build thats still on the market or recently banned. |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jul 5 2008, 06:45 PM |
| Whats your PH history? stats? the norm is to start off with mild shit. (epistane, Hdrol, Pussdrol, QueefPlex, etc) |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jul 5 2008, 06:55 PM |
| I took the original halodrol 2 years ago and methyl masterdrol a year ago. Last cycle I took was a couple months ago which was spawn with a 6-oxo pct. Im 5'10", 170 lbs, 21 yo Im a real hardgainer and have trouble keeping muscle and gains, actually was a country runner for 5 years. Looking to gain solid muscle and keep it. |
| Posted by: HunglikeaHorse Jul 5 2008, 08:48 PM |
| Next time I would stack them, If I were you. Doesnt make sense not too because h-drol alone is not anabolic enough. |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jul 6 2008, 09:40 AM | ||
Well this was the original halodrol which was definitely strong enough at the time, but it is no longer available and im trying to figure out what i can replace in my stack to get similar results. |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Jul 7 2008, 07:45 PM |
| You may want to look into m-drol but you will need alot more than 6 oxo for a pct. You will need a SERM and Post Cycle Support but if you eat right and train hard this will produce big results |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jul 8 2008, 01:17 PM | ||
Well all i read about is how the m-drol creates some really harsh sides, but what kinds of during and post cycle supps should i stalk up on besides a 6-oxo and milk thistle |
| Posted by: accent115 Jul 8 2008, 01:48 PM |
| I hate you. http://forums.beyondmuscle.com/?showtopic=33577 |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jul 8 2008, 06:26 PM |
| Thanks for the hatred. |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Jul 8 2008, 09:21 PM | ||||
For support supps I would run Cycle Support pre-load it 10-14 days and run it throughout the cycle. I would also have Taurine on hand in case of pumps. The Cycle Support contains all the milk this you need plus the other support supps needed. pct have Nolva and Post Cycle Support and you may want to run some 6 oxo in the 4th week of pct and taper the dose down. Good luck bro |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 8 2008, 09:53 PM |
| If you just did a cycle of Spawn a couple of months ago, it's a little early to be jumping back in. Usually, you'll want to do a month of PCT and then take a period of time off that's twice as long as the cycle was. This lets your body get used to having a normal hormonal balance for a while. If I'm not mistaken, Spawn is a stack of two methyls. That just underscores the need for a nice break before you do another cycle. For being as young and light (bodyweight) as you are, that's a lot of cycles. To have already done 3 methyls cycles and looking to start your fourth very soon maybe isn't the best route to go at the moment. |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jul 8 2008, 11:22 PM | ||
Great advice...Thanks ...I guess this gives me more time to search for a good cycle that ill be happy for a while with. Kinda going off-topic now, but might as well ask while people care to answer....Where can i find good info on natural supp stacks while on my off-cycle? Suggestions/Ideas? |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 9 2008, 12:07 AM | ||
FOOD!!! Seriously. Nothing else (non AAS/PH) works. I don't care what anyone else says. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 9 2008, 12:47 AM | ||||
Eating right and enough is the foundation. Assuming that's in order, a lot of guys like the RPM/Drive stack or AP/Powerfull. Both will assist with making and keeping gains between cycles, but you don't want to become TOO reliant on stacks, whether hormonal or not. Food, protein powder, creatine, healthy fats (fish and flax oils) go a long way toward making solid gains that last. |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 9 2008, 03:58 PM |
| Josh, come on bro. Those 'stacks' aren't gonna do anything. Food also helps keep gains. |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 9 2008, 10:20 PM |
| i agree with will 100%. some supps make u feel like working out i guess, but none of them are worth a shit besides PH/AAS and shit like that. i worked at GNC for over a year, and i just recently moved and had a giant box full of supps from there we got for free. tons of different creatines, multi vitamins, N. O. products, ect ect ect. i'd say 3-4 hundred dollars with of shit. i looked at it, then looked at my gear vials, and threw it all away without hesitation. i would have sold the whole box to some noob on here for a dollar but i'm not into ripping people off |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jul 9 2008, 10:45 PM | ||
Haha I know exactly what you mean. I used to work there too, and they always tried to push me to sell shit that i would never myself take. It was ridiculous what a scam GNC pulls off. Is it advisable to get any PHs while they are still around. Ive been reading a ton about how they are trying to get rid of all of them soon, so would it be wise to get my stock up now before they are completely off the market and prices shoot through the roof? |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 9 2008, 10:55 PM |
| I've tried that AP and Powerfull shit cause I got the AP for free and the Powerfull was like $20. I figured what the hell. Did absolutely nothing. Don't waste your money on these bullshit supplements. Stick to the basics like protein powder, creatine (cause it's cheap) and maybe a multivitamin and some fish oils. Throw in some caffeine pills instead of those overpriced preworkout drinks and call it a day. |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 9 2008, 11:00 PM |
| ya. i use fish oil. but no more creatine and multis for me. creatine is so weak, and i'm geared anyway. you'll see when u do ur cycle. well shit u know from phs anyway. and i really dont think MVs do anything. i eat so fuckin much i'm fine. and absorbtion is a big issue with that shit anyway |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 9 2008, 11:05 PM |
| Word. I guess multis are good for peace of mind. Just in case you don't get enough of whatever then the multis will make sure of that. If you're geared then yeah I don't think getting jacked will hinge on creatine. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 9 2008, 11:06 PM |
| I haven't tried either of those stacks, personally. I'm just saying a lot of guys swear by them. They may or may not be all that effective. I wouldnt say NO supplements work, though. I know certain herbs, for example, do have great benefit. |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 10 2008, 11:49 AM |
| well bigben takes rpm/drive, and hes the biggest mother fucker on BN, but i dont know how much of his muscle he contributes to that stack. probly just makes him feel like SFW. josh what herbs do u find particularly effective? |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 10 2008, 07:53 PM | ||
Funny you mentioned because was reading his post about it right after I had posted last night and was thinking the exact same thing...lol. It seems to be working well for him, anyway. A few herbs I found to be very effective were hawthorn berry, horny goat weed, yohimbine, testofen, Paravol (not technically an all herbal supplement, but does have a lot of herbs in the formula). I could probably think of a few more, but those come to mind immediately. |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 10 2008, 11:32 PM |
| Ben was pretty jacked before any RPM or whatever stack. Not to mention he's a rep for the company.  |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 10 2008, 11:58 PM |
| oh for sure. he does look like he puts on cosistant muscle tho, and has only done 1 ph cycle in the last year, and it was m-drol, and he said he got 0 muscle from that. i bet hes secretly geared |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 10 2008, 11:59 PM |
| I think Assfit called him out on that. Said he had to be on AAS cause his face was too puffy (water retention). Of course compared to Assfit everyone looks geared. |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 11 2008, 12:11 AM |
| LMFAO. i actually laughed out loud just now. well hes run some shit. and posted pics while on cycle. hes had comparison pics to to show it and u can tell when hes bloated. but hes also bulking year fuckin round so his face is gunna have some bload. hes bigben anyway not leanfaggotpussyben |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 11 2008, 12:12 AM |
| Word. Who was it that called Ben blubbed? What a fucking moron. |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 11 2008, 12:14 AM |
| lol that james faggot. ben fuckin killed him after it tho. its in the "goodskie roasts bn thread" james tried sayin that he was jackeder than that gay lookin guy in the pic where he was obviously flexing his arm if u remember. he was gay as fuck looking but uber jacked. thats when i called him out and everyone started flaming each other |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jul 11 2008, 12:22 AM |
| Actually I'm wrong. This is the only other supplement that works besides AAS/PHs  |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 11 2008, 12:40 AM |
| lmao. thats what bigben takes isnt it? |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 11 2008, 05:40 AM | ||
That product only works when stacked w/ the transdermal this guy's is on... |