What to stack with 4AD for 8 weeker

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Posted by: morgan45301 Jun 19 2008, 02:42 PM
Week 1: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 2: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 3: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 4: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 5: 4Derm /?????
Week 6: 4Derm /?????
Week 7: 4Derm /?????
Week 8: 4Derm /?????

Options would be: Havoc, Epi, PP, SD, Prostanozolol, original H-50.

Goals: LEAN MASS
Experience: Quite a few cycles but its been about 6 months off.
200lbs 10%

Posted by: Mustang69 Jun 19 2008, 02:50 PM
QUOTE (morgan45301 @ Jun 19 2008, 02:42 PM)
Week 1: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 2: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 3: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 4: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans]
Week 5: 4Derm /?????
Week 6: 4Derm /?????
Week 7: 4Derm /?????
Week 8: 4Derm /?????

Options would be: Havoc, Epi, PP, SD, Prostanozolol, original H-50.

Goals: LEAN MASS
Experience: Quite a few cycles but its been about 6 months off.
200lbs 10%

4AD & EPI complemented each other very well.

i cudnt hide the mass & strength was very impressive.

why do u run the 4AD &19NOR all the way threw & pulse epi for 8 weeks to avoid a libido crash if it occurs w/u

Posted by: morgan45301 Jun 19 2008, 06:06 PM
I only have 4 weeks of 19nor left. Thanks for the tip on the Epi. I wasnt sure if it would run well with 4ad

Posted by: Mustang69 Jun 19 2008, 06:36 PM
thats sum gud stuff u hav

if i was guna run a cycle wit ur stuff id do this


weeks 1-8 4ad
weeks 1-8 pulse epi or SD
weeks 4-8 19nor

if i planned on using other phs instead of epi or sd i wudnt pulse them tho becuz they r not gud for pulsing

but thats jus me becuz i like the pulsing method & there r others that hate it

on a straight threw cycle id start of w/ low doses with the 4ad and gradually go higher each week threw out the cycle to avoid a libido crash.

Posted by: bustout Jun 26 2008, 12:14 AM
Morgan did you have a stock pile of the 4derm. I can't find it anywhere. Can you help me out with this?

mr_jetski@msn.com


Posted by: Josh47933 Jun 26 2008, 10:16 PM
Brand new guy asking who's got a stash. Hope everyone's smart enough to notice that.

Posted by: morgan45301 Jun 26 2008, 10:44 PM
QUOTE (bustout @ Jun 26 2008, 12:14 AM)
Morgan did you have a stock pile of the 4derm.  I can't find it anywhere.  Can you help me out with this?

mr_jetski@msn.com

I don't live in the USA so I can't help you with anything.

Posted by: accent115 Jun 26 2008, 10:56 PM
QUOTE (bustout @ Jun 26 2008, 12:14 AM)
Morgan did you have a stock pile of the 4derm. I can't find it anywhere. Can you help me out with this?

mr_jetski@msn.com

COP

Posted by: bustout Jun 27 2008, 12:25 PM
Not a cop josh. Just a brother trying hit some big numbers in the gym with a little help. I had purchased 4ad before they banned it and loved the stuff. I realize you can order product from outside the U.S. where it is not illegal. Thought some people might be able to point me in the right direction.

Posted by: bustout Jun 27 2008, 12:32 PM
I had stacked M1T with the 4AD for 2 weeks and followed with 6 OXO and 4AD for 2 weeks. After I ran out of the 4AD I went on the same cycle after a few months off an noticed a drop in sex drive and felt more lathargic. If their is something comperable for what the 4AD is doing in this stack that is legal in the U.S. please let me know.

Posted by: morgan45301 Jun 27 2008, 09:19 PM
QUOTE (bustout @ Jun 27 2008, 12:32 PM)
I had stacked M1T with the 4AD for 2 weeks and followed with 6 OXO and 4AD for 2 weeks. After I ran out of the 4AD I went on the same cycle after a few months off an noticed a drop in sex drive and felt more lathargic. If their is something comperable for what the 4AD is doing in this stack that is legal in the U.S. please let me know.

WTF is the point of stacking 6-OXO with 4-AD?

Its like stacking fire with water. You aren't ready for steroids man.

Posted by: bustout Jun 27 2008, 11:42 PM
sounds like I should have read more before I asked any dumb questions.

Posted by: HunglikeaHorse Jul 5 2008, 08:47 PM
I would stack several methyls in there. Not sure how much muscle you may gain since different stacks produce different amounts of muscle.

Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 5 2008, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (HunglikeaHorse @ Jul 5 2008, 08:47 PM)
I would stack several methyls in there. Not sure how much muscle you may gain since different stacks produce different amounts of muscle.

Sure, if you hate your liver...

Posted by: HunglikeaHorse Jul 5 2008, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Jul 5 2008, 08:49 PM)
QUOTE (HunglikeaHorse @ Jul 5 2008, 08:47 PM)
I would stack several methyls in there. Not sure how much muscle you may gain since different stacks produce different amounts of muscle.

Sure, if you hate your liver...


What is a good way to repair the liver? I love stacking methyls but I did hear something about liver having a hard time with it.

Posted by: bustout Jul 7 2008, 11:19 AM
Has anyone ever tried converting and oral M1t to a transdermal (Dermabolics spra)? Would it be any less toxic on your liver and if it is how do you determind how much to mix with a bottle and know how many mg you are getting?

Posted by: Reza2 Jul 18 2008, 09:15 AM
I heard 1AD goes very well with it

Posted by: bustout Jul 18 2008, 02:31 PM
yes it dose but I am out! I found a product online that says 4AD but it's chemical make up is differnent than the original. Has anyone tried it yet?

Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 19 2008, 12:24 AM
QUOTE (bustout @ Jul 18 2008, 02:31 PM)
yes it dose but I am out! I found a product online that says 4AD but it's chemical make up is differnent than the original. Has anyone tried it yet?

The new stuff labeled 4AD is strictly BS. As far as M1T, it's meant to be an oral, not a transdermal. This will be true of any methylated compound.