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| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 17 2008, 12:15 PM |
| Hey Guys, Recently I went to the dr's for blood work and for my chest. Bloodwork came back ok, along with my prolactin levels. I asked the Dr. if I had a case of gyno, he says no and it might just be body fat. I think its a case of prolactin gyno or something and I think it was from the Tren. Well it only really looks bad when my body temp is warm, like at the beach. I am trying Naplam to try to get rid of this and it kind of looks to be working a little. I wanted to see if I could get some thoughts on maybe running cabergoline? I know I can get surgery but I dont believe it's to that point and it's to fucking pricey. |
| Posted by: SFW_SFW Jun 17 2008, 02:07 PM |
| what do you think your bf% is? |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 17 2008, 02:09 PM | ||
not very good, I think its around 15%. not sure, but at one point I was down around 7%- 8% and had this issue... |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 17 2008, 02:30 PM |
| Probably just loose skin bro, unless you feel a hard marble/pea under the nipple. Good question....how does it look when your nips are hard/cold? Does it tighten up to look normal? Another, raise the effected side's arm straight up, does your chest flatten of or is there a lump at the nipple area? |
| Posted by: AdamGrossman Jun 17 2008, 02:33 PM |
| If your prolactin levels aren't high then it wouldn't be prolactin related gyno...duh. Is it the nipple that gets puffy or the areola? |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 17 2008, 02:54 PM | ||
might be just fat I guess... no hard marble When my nips are hard/cold they tighten. no lump when I raise my are |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 17 2008, 03:08 PM | ||
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| Posted by: ShakesAllDay Jun 17 2008, 03:13 PM |
| Dood... you are 15% BF! What do you think is hangin' on your titty? Lose some fat, lose some titty. I understand 100% what you are talking about. Both my father and myself cling to chest/pit fat like it's going out of style. When I was much leaner (like having a defined 6-pack), WAHLA! No more tit fat. Just lose some weight. Unless you have physical hard lumps, don't worry about it. |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 17 2008, 03:24 PM | ||
I guess your right, just got worried for a minute, having done tren in the past a few times also when I was younger fucking around with deca and not doing the right pct. So I guess I'll hold off on the cabergoline. |
| Posted by: MoVin_Weight Jun 17 2008, 03:26 PM |
| i had a similar reaction after running a tren product... not sure exactly what caused it, but even at a much lower bf i still had the issue nolva helped tho |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 17 2008, 03:42 PM | ||
I thought that Nolv would have no affect on prolactin related gyno. It would help with estro related gyno? Does SD and Phera also affect prolactin? |
| Posted by: MoVin_Weight Jun 17 2008, 09:13 PM |
| i dunno, i used cabergoline as well b/c i had a little discharge when i squeezed my nips... but nolva helped with the puffiness |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 18 2008, 08:08 AM |
| No discharge here, thank god... but i'll run nolv, also have e-form... |
| Posted by: bicepman Jun 18 2008, 02:32 PM |
| movin - did u have a small lump there too when puss was coming out? and did nolva make the lump go away? |
| Posted by: MoVin_Weight Jun 18 2008, 06:57 PM |
| yeah i'v had a lump for a while... it got much more noticeable after the trenadrol, and yes nolva shrank it, but did not completely get rid of it It's not even really noticeable to the eye now tho |
| Posted by: bicepman Jun 18 2008, 07:07 PM |
| did it hurt when you were in your early stages of it, or atleast bother you at all? |
| Posted by: bicepman Jun 18 2008, 07:09 PM |
| and will i ever be able to run a PH again safely, without any flare ups. also how do i control it now that its there? |
| Posted by: accent115 Jun 18 2008, 08:12 PM | ||
you probably will not |
| Posted by: MoVin_Weight Jun 18 2008, 09:28 PM |
| yeah it hurt in the early stages... and hurt until i started nolva you'll prob be fine with hormones like havoc/halodrol... you just need to avoid progestins and aromatizing substances |
| Posted by: bicepman Jun 18 2008, 10:22 PM |
| movin- thanks for all your helpful advice!!! |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 18 2008, 10:39 PM |
| I got puffy nips also but im pretty sure my body stores alot of fat in lower pecs and belly.. im at 12% and have a nasty layer of fat covering the bottom of my abs.. im going to the docs to double check everything before cycle tho |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 19 2008, 03:46 PM |
| Guys, any thoughts on running Letro? I pretty sure its gyno. If you ran Letro and did not have gyno what could happen? |
| Posted by: OmniRed Jun 19 2008, 04:21 PM |
| I have heard that letro is pretty effective at removing or reducing Gyno, but not pubertal related Gyno. You need to be very careful about the dosing of Letro, because it can seriously destroy your sex drive to the point where it might not come back. |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 20 2008, 07:43 AM | ||
Thanks, I will take your word for it, going to do some research to find out the correct dosage and time length to run the cycle |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 20 2008, 10:37 AM |
| I also read that Letro fucks with your lipid levels and could also affect your kidneys? Ayone heard of using Aromasin - Exemestane? I think this wont help my case... Right now im wrapping up my h-drol / Epidrol cycle and running e-form. Do you guys think I should stack the Letro with Nolvedex i have already for the PCT? im also going to run trib or a nat test booster during the PCT. |
| Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 23 2008, 12:53 PM |
| Dude from the pic and answers to my questions, definitely just alittle bit of chest fat. Trim off some fat and you're golden. If your nips harden up, and it looks normal nothing to worry about. Just think when you trim up its gonna do the same, since both are tightening the skin. |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 23 2008, 03:53 PM |
| I'll give it a shot, put I could have swore I felt a pea sized or maybe smaller piece of whatever to the left of one of my nipples. Would it hurt to run a short 15 day run of the letro to see if it goes away. In the mean time going to us prep-h at the beach and pool. |
| Posted by: OmniRed Jun 23 2008, 04:53 PM |
| You can run it and have potential problems that you wont ever be able to reverse. OR You can just lose some fat and see. Dont use the letro until you KNOW it's not fat. |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 24 2008, 08:31 AM | ||
I'll need to get a second opinion from another dr. most recent visit was back about a month ok, dr. says I do not have gyno chest looks normal, could be just fat. I had this checked almost 6 years ago when i was heavy into AAS gear , DECA, Test etc.. The dr then said I have a slight case of gyno on the left pec. I think I should seek a pro to look at this maybe a plastic surgent. So even running letro at a low dosage for 4 weeks could be harmful as well, give or take I do have a case of gyno? |
| Posted by: accent115 Jun 24 2008, 09:53 AM |
| They can do a sonogram to find out if its breast tissue |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 24 2008, 10:42 PM | ||||
does anyone see the comedic value of the attached pic?  Ok, His friend is wearing coconut shells as a bra  and he's asking about gyno.this is comedy. but gyno is no laughing matter  |
| Posted by: rockhopper Jun 25 2008, 07:33 AM |
| LOL, yeah didn't realize the pic LOL. any the case, I did order the letro to have on hand until i get a handle on wheather or not I have gyno or not. |