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> Lower Chest / Puffy Nipple, this sucks...
Posted: Jun 17 2008, 12:15 PM
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Hey Guys,

Recently I went to the dr's for blood work and for my chest. Bloodwork came back ok, along with my prolactin levels. I asked the Dr. if I had a case of gyno, he says no and it might just be body fat. I think its a case of prolactin gyno or something and I think it was from the Tren. Well it only really looks bad when my body temp is warm, like at the beach. I am trying Naplam to try to get rid of this and it kind of looks to be working a little. I wanted to see if I could get some thoughts on maybe running cabergoline? I know I can get surgery but I dont believe it's to that point and it's to fucking pricey.
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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 02:07 PM
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what do you think your bf% is?

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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (SFW_SFW @ Jun 17 2008, 02:07 PM)
what do you think your bf% is?

not very good, I think its around 15%. not sure, but at one point I was down around 7%- 8% and had this issue...
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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 02:30 PM
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Probably just loose skin bro, unless you feel a hard marble/pea under the nipple.

Good question....how does it look when your nips are hard/cold? Does it tighten up to look normal?

Another, raise the effected side's arm straight up, does your chest flatten of or is there a lump at the nipple area?

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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 02:33 PM
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If your prolactin levels aren't high then it wouldn't be prolactin related gyno...duh. Is it the nipple that gets puffy or the areola?

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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Jun 17 2008, 02:30 PM)
Probably just loose skin bro, unless you feel a hard marble/pea under the nipple.

Good question....how does it look when your nips are hard/cold? Does it tighten up to look normal?

Another, raise the effected side's arm straight up, does your chest flatten of or is there a lump at the nipple area?

might be just fat I guess... no hard marble

When my nips are hard/cold they tighten.

no lump when I raise my are
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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (AdamGrossman @ Jun 17 2008, 02:33 PM)
If your prolactin levels aren't high then it wouldn't be prolactin related gyno...duh.  Is it the nipple that gets puffy or the areola?

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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 03:13 PM
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Dood... you are 15% BF! What do you think is hangin' on your titty? Lose some fat, lose some titty.

I understand 100% what you are talking about. Both my father and myself cling to chest/pit fat like it's going out of style. When I was much leaner (like having a defined 6-pack), WAHLA! No more tit fat.

Just lose some weight. Unless you have physical hard lumps, don't worry about it.

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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Jun 17 2008, 03:13 PM)
Dood... you are 15% BF! What do you think is hangin' on your titty? Lose some fat, lose some titty.

I understand 100% what you are talking about. Both my father and myself cling to chest/pit fat like it's going out of style. When I was much leaner (like having a defined 6-pack), WAHLA! No more tit fat.

Just lose some weight. Unless you have physical hard lumps, don't worry about it.

I guess your right, just got worried for a minute, having done tren in the past a few times also when I was younger fucking around with deca and not doing the right pct. So I guess I'll hold off on the cabergoline.
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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 03:26 PM
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i had a similar reaction after running a tren product... not sure exactly what caused it, but even at a much lower bf i still had the issue

nolva helped tho

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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (MoVin_Weight @ Jun 17 2008, 03:26 PM)
i had a similar reaction after running a tren product... not sure exactly what caused it, but even at a much lower bf i still had the issue

nolva helped tho

I thought that Nolv would have no affect on prolactin related gyno. It would help with estro related gyno?

Does SD and Phera also affect prolactin?
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Posted: Jun 17 2008, 09:13 PM
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i dunno, i used cabergoline as well b/c i had a little discharge when i squeezed my nips... but nolva helped with the puffiness

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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 08:08 AM
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No discharge here, thank god... but i'll run nolv, also have e-form...
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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 02:32 PM
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movin - did u have a small lump there too when puss was coming out? and did nolva make the lump go away?
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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 06:57 PM
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yeah i'v had a lump for a while... it got much more noticeable after the trenadrol, and yes nolva shrank it, but did not completely get rid of it

It's not even really noticeable to the eye now tho

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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 07:07 PM
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did it hurt when you were in your early stages of it, or atleast bother you at all?

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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 07:09 PM
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and will i ever be able to run a PH again safely, without any flare ups. also how do i control it now that its there?
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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (bicepman @ Jun 18 2008, 07:09 PM)
and will i ever be able to run a PH again safely, without any flare ups. also how do i control it now that its there?

you probably will not
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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 09:28 PM
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yeah it hurt in the early stages... and hurt until i started nolva

you'll prob be fine with hormones like havoc/halodrol... you just need to avoid progestins and aromatizing substances

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Posted: Jun 18 2008, 10:22 PM
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movin- thanks for all your helpful advice!!!
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