Anyone interested in a 3 week M1T log? |
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| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 12:22 AM |
| Just checking to see if anyone would like to see me log this an follow along with me during the cycle ill be startin in three weeks. |
| Posted by: JW32Hoops Jun 16 2008, 12:32 AM |
| Isn't M1T a harsh PH that got banned a couple years back? Definitely log it. |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 16 2008, 03:54 AM |
| nah JW, its certainly not a ph. its pretty much as potent a steroid as you can get. The gains are considerably similar to injectable aas. But yeah mig, def log this. id be interested...long as there are some before/after pics to go with it. i've run 2 cycles of M1T and made good gains. hopefully you're frontloading your support supps now just to be on the safe side. What brand of m1t are you using? p.s. If you're gonna dabble with a class III substance, why not use something much less toxic, such as injectables? I kinda regret running M1T twice....i made good gains but who knows down the road what the repercussions will be. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 08:16 AM | ||
Its Andro Technologies ( and ive had the bottle checked out its real). Im going this route cus I feel like I want to kep my first steroid cycle oral even tho I know this is the harshest one around,... ill be doing 10mg aday and all my supports will be pre loaded. Ill have. Liver Longer, NAC, Hawthorn berry, Vit B12, milk thistleall 1 week pre loaded. ill do the M1T for 3 weeks at 10mg/day then PCT will be the supports still plus Nolva 30/20/20 Novedex XT 1--2 caps every night and STOKED as a test booster sounds good guys will be a few weeks before I start the cycle but ill log it for sure. with pre/post pics. |
| Posted by: JW32Hoops Jun 16 2008, 09:26 AM |
| Is this stuff still available? What about decent clones? |
| Posted by: AdamGrossman Jun 16 2008, 09:30 AM |
| Sucks you don't have 4AD to go with it...you're gonna be miserable. |
| Posted by: anaboliclife07 Jun 16 2008, 10:00 AM | ||
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| Posted by: Light Weight Baby Jun 16 2008, 10:30 AM |
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| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 16 2008, 04:41 PM |
| Yeah andro tech is good to go. Your support supps all look good as well. I'd have to agree that not using 4-ad or test with it will be a little uncomfortable to say the least. But at 10mgs, you might get away with lethargic sides. Have some stims on hand to help. By the way, if you got the andro tech from a certain someone in Canada....ask him to send you "a catalog" in your email. He has sublingual 4-ad products...and other shit that he doesnt display on his page. if this is your first run, you're going to make insane gains. 15-20 lbs in 3 weeks is not unheard of. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 07:52 PM |
| I know I know all about teh 4AD which I cant get my hands on ( I got this M1T as a Bday present from a friend) ..and Im not going to Pin any test either this round... I've read many many reviews about people hating it but ive also read alot of people loving it at 10mg aday some with slight lethargy and decrease in sex drive. But im ready to take the chance I personally feel that my body could react well to this. I feel my Nolva dose is a little low but its absolutely all the Nolva I can get for a few months here in my small town so thats why im only doing 3 weeks rather then 4 with the M1T.. guess you cant order the stuff online in Canada anymore. and hopefully with the STOKED I dont lose ALL sex drive. any more advice on how im taking this?? other then saying not to take it? lol |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 07:53 PM | ||
It still floating around but is a controlled substance from the FDA..believe it got banned in 2006 |
| Posted by: MoVin_Weight Jun 16 2008, 08:08 PM |
| why not run it for 2 weeks and then bridge into something milder for a couple weeks... all i hear about M1T is crazy xplosive gains that people end up losing half of during PCT b/c there shut down If you were to bridge into something like epistane, you prob won't continue to make gains... but at least you solidify the mass you slammed on with M1T, before you jump into PCT with test levels in the single digits |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 08:12 PM | ||
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| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 08:16 PM |
| actually looks like I can order Epi into Canada anyone else want to imput on the bridge idea? |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 16 2008, 08:26 PM |
| You should REALLY look into solidifying your PCT since its all about keeping your gains. at 30/20/20, you may not bring your natty levels up in time and lose some mass. But the novedex xt might help....isnt that an ATD product? i plan on using some topical ATD during my upcoming PCT. so as im tapering off the SERM and my estro levels are creeping up, bam...i start ramping up the atd. its controversial but im gonna do it. Ive read good things. anyway eat clean on M1T. i looked like a fat fuck on it. not until 2-3 weeks into PCT did i look right. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 08:33 PM | ||
I agree..I know the Nolva is border line but unless I find a MUCH cheaper source which I highly doubt it where I live thats all the Nolva I can get for a few months. Thats why I got the NovedexXT ( an Anti Amroatase) and the STOKED in there aswell. how much were you takign when you did the M1T?? Everyone who has done 10mg/day seems to find the crazy wate weight not to happen but once people get 20+ mg/day they all seem to look like fat fucks on cycle...my diet will be clean of course tho! |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 16 2008, 08:42 PM |
| Yeah I ran it as high as 30. in retrospect i shouldnt of done so. live and learn i suppose. If you can get through the total lazy, lethargic, wanting to nap feelings you'll be fine. Was using 4-ad and ECA and still wanted to take naps mid-day like a kindergartener. I think you'll be fine if you stay at 10mg though. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 08:46 PM | ||
30mg also wouldnt ECA be bad to take as stims due to the M1T already kicking the shit out of my BP? |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 16 2008, 08:52 PM | ||
it probably didnt help me as far as BP goes lol but when you start feeling like curling up and going to sleep at 1pm, you gotta do something about it. i really dont know about the bridging/pulsing etc since ive never done so. But, im sure you'll make sick gains with just the M1T solo, imo. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 08:56 PM | ||||
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| Posted by: willpiazza31 Jun 16 2008, 10:11 PM |
| Niggy gonna get jacked!!!! |
| Posted by: JW32Hoops Jun 16 2008, 10:28 PM |
| Do you have all your support supps and PCT stuff on hand? When do you plan to start your cycle? |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 10:39 PM |
| damn straight Will! Hey JW ya i got NAC, Liver longer, STOKED being shipped to me as of yesterday so that will be here in 3 weeks . at my local store ill pick some haw throne berry and Vit B12 and I just got the call tonight and my 500mgs of Nolva got in town on the bus today so I gotta go meet the local juice monkey tomorrow to pick it up haha I have the M1T here at home along with a bottle of Novedex XT then Ill pre load all the supports for a week as soon as my order arrives then do a 2-3 week cycle of the M1T depending on how I feel on cycle then its nolva, NovedexXT and STOKED and the supports for 3 weeks. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 16 2008, 10:51 PM |
| the only thing is I only got 30days worth of Liver longer.. so I was thinking pre load it for 1 week then use it for the cycleand also use Milk thistle and use it right through PCT when I wont have Liver longer.. I got more then enough NAC for 1200mg aday. from pre load to end of PCT... sound good? also going to pick some saw palm at the store! |
| Posted by: Will109090 Jun 17 2008, 12:18 AM |
| Are the pills dosed at 5mg or 10mg? If I were you, I would start that shit out at 5mg. People have seen sick gains from just 5mg, it's some really potent shit. I would love to run M1T, but I'm so scared from all of the bloodwork I've seen on it. Same reason why I won't run Superdrol. 20mg Nolva the whole way through for PCT is plenty. If it were me, I would get bloodwork before you start the cycle, run the M1T for 2 weeks, jump into PCT, and then get bloodwork 2 weeks after PCT. The only reason I'm recommending getting bloodwork done before and after this cycle is because M1T is known to be harsh as shit on lipids, BP, and test values. Besides, take advantage of that universal healthcare ya'll got up there Good luck mate, and log that shit. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 17 2008, 08:14 AM | ||
thanks dude! Yah ill be visiting the family Doc for a checkup/blood work pre an post. anyone else want to let me know what that think about just running nolva at 20mg/day threw out the whole PCT? |
| Posted by: Mustang69 Jun 17 2008, 08:20 AM |
| a M1T log wud be great! i also like the idea of bridging to a light ph to solidify the gains from M1T make sure to take enough time off inbetween cycles, arent u still on pct from ur 11-oxo log? getting Blood work done before/after wud be awesum in the log and also a smart move for ur own benefit. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 17 2008, 08:37 AM | ||
nope done PCT.. but i got about a week of Act X.. and will be starting this cycle in a month.. hould I stop the actX?? I figured since its just freeing bound test it would be fine. to only have a couple weeks off the actX also from what I hear bridging M1T with a light PH isnt going to help in the shut down its going to shut down anyway..but I think I have a pretty damn solid PCT to kick start the ol nuts. |
| Posted by: Mustang69 Jun 17 2008, 08:56 AM |
| i dun know man... u started the 11-oxo cycle on 04/22/08, ended 05/23/08 & now ur done PCT & 2days date is 06/17/08 and now u want to do M1T in a month... personally id wait a little longer bridging2 a light ph after M1T is not guna to help u w/ shut down. Its guna help solidify ur gains from M1T |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 17 2008, 09:09 AM | ||
YEah well im going to get my blood work done pre and see how everything is.. I mean theres no set dates to when Ill start but a 3 weeks is the earliest I could start pre loading my supports...but could be even 3 weeks after I get everything when Ill be able to dedicate my self to it.. not sure what will happen in the next three weeks with summer starting and the new GF an I wont do this cycle till I can do it perfect! Im also still thinking about the spistane bridge which would delay the cycle a few weeks anyway.. thanks for your help and support Mustang! Time to go work. |
| Posted by: Mustang69 Jun 17 2008, 09:37 AM |
| yea man gud... & the fact that its summer and ur w/sumone new ur guna need ur libido! |
| Posted by: MoVin_Weight Jun 17 2008, 03:37 PM |
| the idea of the bridge cycle is not to help with shutdown, but do keep androgens elevated long enough for your body to hold onto the rapid mass gains when you add 20lbs in 3 weeks the first thing your body wan'ts to do when androgen levels drop, is to dump the weight.... you got to give the body some time to adjust to the new muscle you've added people have a hard enough time holding onto 15-20lbs worth of gains over a 12 week injectable cycle, let alone a 3 weeker Either way it's just a theory i'v come up with through experience |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 17 2008, 07:43 PM | ||
hahah yeah she would be pissed right off if I would rather play PS3 everynight then nail her lmao. Cool moving weight thats a pretty interesting idea.. Ive never looked into the bridging ideas before. pickin up my nolva today. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 18 2008, 08:10 AM |
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| Posted by: RepMeister Jun 18 2008, 12:27 PM |
| Not sure the switching to Epi will do what you want. You're just switching compounds - both will keep you shut down. The beauty of Epi is that it is not as harsh as the M1T and will not shut you down as hard or as fast if you start with it. I have done 10 week pulse cycles with Epi and did not feel all that shut down. My last cycle of Epi was a 6 week pulse finished with 4 weeks of 40 mg/day. In your case, the M1T will shut you down hard and fast. Once shut down, the Epi will likely keep you shut down. If you want to extend your cycle with something less harsh then by all means do the switch, but switching will not get your test levels up. I did M1T a few years ago - still have some left and was toying with the idea of working it into my current Test E cycle. It is HARSH. I agree with all that has been said. FANTASTIC GAINS. My bench jumped up about 70 lbs in four weeks. Lost most of it afterward. The changes are just to dramatic over too short a period of time for your body to hold onto. That's my opinion. Good luck. By the way, where in Canada are you? |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 18 2008, 07:41 PM | ||
what dose did you do the M1T at?.. I dont think ill be adding anything into the cycle. Due to not enough Nolva on hand for an extended cycle. Im in BC Canada. |
| Posted by: RepMeister Jun 19 2008, 12:18 PM | ||
I did first three days at 10 mg and the remaining 28 days at 20mg. Like i said - sick gains but holy lethargy. The only time I felt good was when I was training but getting the motivation to get to the training was hard. Stuff works great but is really hard on the body. Gave me prostate issues too. Don't want to scare you. 10 mg shouldn't be as bad. I will NEVER do 20 mg again. I will only do M!T again with Test. I am toying with the idea of using it as a bump if I hit a plateau in my current Test E cycle. I am in Ontario. Go Leafs Go. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 20 2008, 11:30 PM | ||||
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| Posted by: typeRob Jun 21 2008, 12:10 AM |
| do your body and health a favor and run test instead. or else you might as well stack slin and dnp to your already abuser cycle and drink everclear. no but seriously m1t as your first cycle is retarded. thats worse than running tren your first cycle but hey look at jayv hes jacked as fuck. may the best abuser win |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 21 2008, 07:10 AM | ||
didnt you start AAS when you were like 18 or something?? Just saying.. no hate but the threads for help WITH my cycle/ other peoples experiences with the PS. Ive done my research I know the compound I know the risks..ect. Im not trying to be a Dick cuz your advice is solid but the product is a hit an miss almost everyone ive seen reivew it at under 15mg/day actually liked the drug with doctor reports that come back decent...everyone Ive read that has taken 20- even 40mg aday hated it.. |
| Posted by: RepMeister Jun 21 2008, 11:58 AM | ||
No, nothing like that; although sex drive on M1T is pretty low. You can still get it up but you don't go around looking for any extra if you know what I mean. Although, if you have a new girlfriend, that ought to help ;-) No, my prostate got enlarged and, mostly at night, I would get a real bad burning sensation after urinating (no, it wasn't the Clap). Man, it was really bad. I ended up having to go on antibiotics to get over it. SD did the same thing. All the shit with real high androgenic affects do that to me. Most likely my age. Anyway, you're doing 10mg and only three weeks. I was on for 31 days. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 21 2008, 07:35 PM |
| ahh I see thats ok then I havnt really heard of other people having that issue..just low sex drive long as I can get er up im good lol. So I picked up my Nolva today and the guy said that Clomid is better to kick start the nuts and that he runs Nolva during cycle and clomid for PCT...does taking 2 SERMS make any sense? |
| Posted by: typeRob Jun 21 2008, 09:45 PM | ||
exactly, hit or miss. why run somethin thats 50/50? real gear like test is guaranteed good gains and little or no sides. and no i didnt start AAS at 18. ive been lifting since i was 16. started training seriously at 18 for 2 years and started AAS about 6 months prior to turning 21. nice try though. i dont know why you bring that bullshit up anyway man im just giving you my honest opinion, take it or leave it, but just promise me youll get fuckin jacked and tan bro |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 21 2008, 11:10 PM | ||||
I wasnt trying to bring anything up and I said your advice was solid.. I thought you had started younger so thats why I asked. And you know damn well ill get jacked an tan. anyway about my last question I asked.. the guy i got the nolva off of was telling me when he does hard orals he takes 20mg of nolva during the cycle and uses clomid post cycle..is this totally dumb or a way to take it?? I tried searchin around but cant any inof about stacking it like this. |
| Posted by: typeRob Jun 22 2008, 12:44 AM |
| alot of guys like to stack nolva or clomid. i did my first cycle and i seemed to recover fast altho ive never ran only nolva so i wouldnt know how it compares. id recommend nolva and/or toremefine. clomid has some nasty side effects. it made me moody as fuck and i was a little bitch all the time, i wanted to cry sometimes for no reason. stay away from clomid is my best advice. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 22 2008, 12:58 AM | ||
lol alright thanks dude guess my biggest concern is kick startin the nuts when im done cycle so thought clomid would be good for that..but im not really into being a moody bitch more then the cycle will make me anyway..Nolva/novedexXT/STOKED should be sweet. |
| Posted by: goodskie Jun 22 2008, 01:39 AM |
| nolva solo works for me. you're going to be tired and lazy regardless but do what you can |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 23 2008, 10:01 PM |
| "Methyl-1-Testosterone, does not aromatize, this means that Methyl-1-Testosterone does not convert to estrogen. Methyl-1-Testosterone is 5alpha-reduced androgen which prevents it from converting to estrogen, however due to the 5alpha-reduced it is a DHT-derivative. It is not testosterone, Methyl-1-Testerone is a 17aa version of 1-Testosterone, and 1-Testosterone is actually the 5alpha-reduced version of Boldenone, so by this we can see that Methyl-1-Testerone is to 1-Testosterone, that Methandrostenolone is to Boldenone, and 1-Testosterone is to Testosterone as DHT is to Boldenone. Some people have reported bloating and other "estrogen like" effects; however these are actually progestin side effects. This leads us to the point that an ancillary SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Module) like Nolvadex would do no use because it is a competitor with estrogen with the estrogen receptors. This leads me to another point! If for some obscure reason someone in questions is in fact running Methyl-1-Testosterone as a solitary androgen, they will shut down their HPTA which stops all natural Testosterone production. Testosterone plays many vital roles in the human body, including manages emotions and sex drive. This will lead me to another point, the only way the male body can create estrogen is through the conversion or aromatization of testosterone, and with no testosterone in the body, and you will also leave yourself without estrogen. Estrogen even though it is termed as a female hormone it is essential to proper function of the male body. Now, for those of you who will recommend Nolvadex or a similar SERM for gynomastia, what will it do when estrogen and thus the estrogen receptors are not the cause of this gynomastia? Also as a side note, lets face it estrogen is essential to proper function, now everyone knows that SERMs have a high success rate of beating estrogen at the receptors, so if you have very little if any estrogen in your body, why would you want to block the small bit that you may still have? Okay, okay, well your saying, if you're so smart what should we take? First of all I believe that your Methyl-1-Testerone should be stacked with an exogenous testosterone. However even if it is not, Methyl-1-Testosterone does have progestin like effects and it has been proven that where we find progestin we will find Prolactin, the two go hand and hand. So now we know that the cause of gynomastia or bloating or other "estrogen like" side effects are actually Prolactin side effects, and thus we will need a Prolactin suppresser, and yes things that manage Prolactin actually suppress Prolactin, and I say this because aromatization inhibitors, do not suppress estrogen they prevent the conversion to estrogen, and SERMs, do not suppress estrogen they compete with estrogen. So the weapon of choice to combat these side effects is actually Cabergoline." so after reading this seems like i should be in the market for some Cabergoline... |
| Posted by: Will109090 Jun 24 2008, 11:12 AM |
| Not everyone sees gyno from this product. If I were you miggy, I would not dose above 10mg. Start at 5mg, or just run 10mg the whole way through. You will still gain a shit load of weight and strength from M1T running it at 10mg for 2-3 weeks. Keep it at 3 weeks, Nolva PCT, you should be fine. No reason to make it all complicated. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 24 2008, 07:51 PM | ||
thanks dude ya I would start at 5 but my M1T is in capsules at 10mg so thats as low as I can go..and I never planned to go above that.. I know keeping it simple is the way to go ...but since it can convert to progestin rather then estrogen scares the hell out of me if Nolva is going to do nothing if I get any gyno sides... |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 27 2008, 10:26 PM |
| All my supports are here gotta pick them up at the post office tomorrow..also got some GreenMAG and Whiteflood in the order. |
| Posted by: typeRob Jun 28 2008, 12:12 AM |
| abuser time |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 28 2008, 05:06 AM |
| and so it begins...... Good luck with the cycle. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Jun 28 2008, 05:46 AM | ||
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| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 28 2008, 08:33 AM | ||||
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| Posted by: RepMeister Jun 28 2008, 10:15 AM | ||
Based on my experience with M1T, it would be a great kick start for strength gains. The only drawback would be the almost immediate shutdown. I am currently in 7th week of Test E cycle and I can honestly say that I have virtually no nut shrinkage yet. Can't say how shut down I am because libido is way up from Test. With M1T I was shut down within a week and nuts were "peanuts" if you know what I mean. But damn that stuff works. Too bad it is so damn lethal :-( You probably wouldn't want to do a very long cycle or use HCG to keep nuts inflated. But, having big nuts isn't everything, is it? |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 28 2008, 02:21 PM |
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| Posted by: JW32Hoops Jun 28 2008, 03:07 PM |
| Take all that shit, starting................now! |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 28 2008, 04:28 PM | ||
start pre loading wednesday.. Its Canada day up here tuesday so that my final hitting the bottle night...just got back from picking up some milk thistle, B12, hawthorn, saw palm so now I got EVERYTHIN!! oh by the way I just used Whiteflood for the first time..MY GOD its better then NO shotgun... |
| Posted by: JW32Hoops Jun 28 2008, 05:52 PM | ||||
Pumped that you're all stocked up and ready to go bro, can't wait to see what kind of results you get from this cycle. Take before/after pics and record your 1RM's in the compound lifts so you can compare. |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 28 2008, 05:53 PM |
| Mig, whats your current stats right now bro.... and whats in that orange box (in the pic) |
| Posted by: Will109090 Jun 28 2008, 09:15 PM |
| What's that bottle on top of the green shit? Looking forward to this cycle. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 29 2008, 01:03 PM |
| Yes ill take pics beofre and after and log my workouts for this.. The box of stuff is Liver Longer by thermolife and the little bottle onntop the GreenMag is Nolva. My current stats as much as I know is 5" 9 , 180lbs 15inch biceps my BF is a little higher then normal just cus I did a huge bulk this winter and put on 20lbs id say around 13% bench press- 225 X8 BB shoulder press - 135 X10 Squat - 275 X10 ( squat is low do to lower back problem but its gettin up there) Dead - 275 10 (again the back) alt bi cep curls usually drop set starting at 65lbs down to 25lbs alt bb bicep curls drop set from 110lbs going down by 10lbs to 20lbs.. anyway theres a little info about me... |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 29 2008, 04:30 PM |
| 13% is still lean. You're gonna make good gains. When i ran it, i didnt have nearly as many support supps...didnt know shit about carb loading/glycogen replacement nor did i know about the amount of protein i needed to consume. Anyway this is should be an interesting journal. How many cals do you plan on consuming on this cycle? |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 29 2008, 04:34 PM | ||
Im thinking around 4000cals aday which isnt to to much but id like to go more recomp bulkrather then massive bulk I dunno Ill start around there and depending how I feel ill adjust my cal intake...im going huge on protein intake tho...eggs, meat and proly up to 4 shakes aday I hear the high protein/egg intake helps with the lethargy |
| Posted by: Will109090 Jun 29 2008, 10:33 PM |
| Are you running this for 2 or 3 weeks? Also, you're not going to recomp with this compound, might as well go all out and add as much mass as you can. A lot of the bloat you get from this will disappear after PCT, I think. And which company makes the Nolva you got? |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 30 2008, 02:00 AM | ||
Aiming for 3 weeks but if I dont react well to it then ill cut it short for sure... the nolva is from S.A.L |
| Posted by: miggyg Jun 30 2008, 11:27 PM |
| alright start pre laoding my supports tomorrow.. start my M1T next monday... gettin nervous for sure.. should my supports be split into 2 doses aday with everything..?? i got it set like this. Liver longer - 2 caps ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 600mg ED Saw Palmetto 300mg ED so this is what I had planned but after buying the actual supports it will look more liek this. 2 caps liver longer ( 1 am 1pm) B12 - 500mcg 2X aday NAC - 600mg X2 Hawthorne - 550mg X2 aday Saw plam - 500mg once aday (am) so its a little diff but should be good hey?? is it best to split it like this or all at once 1X aday? |
| Posted by: yeashescool Jul 1 2008, 08:48 PM |
| this stuff is crazy, good luck man |
| Posted by: goodskie Jul 1 2008, 08:53 PM |
| i can see myself killing people with rage on m1-t along with starting at least 10 new shit talking threads, but hey best of luck. hopefully u feel decent on it |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 2 2008, 04:39 AM | ||
Ill PM you if I kill anyone.... but thanks for the luck.. I know some people who react great to it at 10mg aday so hopefully im one to hahah. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Jul 2 2008, 02:42 PM |
| ...the only thing you'll feel like killing while on m1t is yourself |
| Posted by: Mustang69 Jul 2 2008, 03:39 PM | ||
ur startin next Monday? u jus finished a 11-oxo cycle dude... as much as it wud be beneficial 4 me 2 follow ur M1T log this is not a wise choice... i think ur being 2 impatient. even w/u preloading all that shit ur body is still pretty much freshly recovering from the 11-oxo M1T is fuckin potent, results come in dramatically. people hav reported slammin on 14-15 pounds @5mg within only 2 weeks on cycle. ur body is guna get taxed huge. |
| Posted by: Chris25533 Jul 2 2008, 04:17 PM |
| Were all abusers here, so who really cares |
| Posted by: accent115 Jul 2 2008, 04:18 PM |
| I say you're a pussy unless you take your pills with a shot of jack. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 3 2008, 07:58 PM |
| I been off 11oxo for quite some time now... |
| Posted by: Mustang69 Jul 3 2008, 08:18 PM | ||
this was on the 17 of last month that was 2 weeks ago & u said u where dun, u didnt even run a long enough pct time duration for time off - is length of cycle & pct i hope u hav a gud cycle & make sum worthy gains |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 3 2008, 09:51 PM | ||||
bottle of 6oxo Xtreme and a week of novedexXT for taking a low dose of 11oxo was fine PCT for it...but anyway everythings planned and set and started so I guess I can just hope for the best... PCT deff wont be short in this cycle |
| Posted by: Mustang69 Jul 3 2008, 10:19 PM | ||||||
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| Posted by: Jayv24 Jul 3 2008, 11:28 PM |
| he'll be fine. its toxic, but its probably no more toxic than acetaminophen and daily wine consumption. just stay at 10mgs and dont go over 3 weeks. i was a tard and ran it high...cycles were close together too. plus i drank during my PCT. good times. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 4 2008, 01:00 AM | ||
no booze for me..low dose...was even thinking abotu spliting it so 5mg aday..but I dunno..I figured people might think I have a vagina if I split them..thinking 10 will be good I got the supports/PCT to handle it. |
| Posted by: JW32Hoops Jul 4 2008, 04:06 AM | ||
![]() Miggy, when you startin? What are your current bench/dead/squat 1RM's? |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 4 2008, 08:35 AM | ||||
T-minus 4 days!! Monday ill be dropping it...well thats the plan anyway. But for sure some time next week. I honestly have never just gone for max 1 rep ( I think thats what 1RM is?). but to guess it would be I could push 245 once on bench maybe 250 dead maybe 305 ( lower back issues) squats 355 maybe? ( again lower back) had lower back issues since an accident when I was young... It will be years before it will not give me problems. I did post what I can lift forsure up above but its all for 10 reps... |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 5 2008, 01:24 PM |
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| Posted by: Cdubya Jul 5 2008, 03:16 PM |
| Good Luck man, I'll be following.. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 5 2008, 03:46 PM | ||
thanks dude..im going to just log it in here rather then making a new thread. |
| Posted by: Cdubya Jul 5 2008, 06:30 PM |
| Works for me |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 6 2008, 02:29 PM |
| Week 1 which I finished already was Liver longer - 2 caps ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED Week 2 - M1T - 5mg Liver longer - 2 caps ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED Week 3 - M1T - 10mg ED Liver longer - 2 caps ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED Week 4 - M1T - 10mg STOKED - 4 caps aday Liver longer - 2 caps ED MILK THISTLE - 1000mg ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED WEEK 5 Nolva - 30mg ED STOKED- 4 caps ED Novedex- 2 caps ED MILK THISTLE - 1000mg ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED Week 6 - Nolva - 20mg ED STOKED- 4 caps ED Novedex- 2 caps ED MILK THISTLE - 1000mg ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED WEEK 7 - Nolva - 20mg ED STOKED- 4 caps aday Novedex- 2 caps ED MILK THISTLE - 1000mg ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED WEEK 8 - Novedex- 1 caps ED MILK THISTLE - 1000mg ED B12 1000mcg Fish Oils 2 capsules ED NOW NAC 1200mg ED Hawthorne Berry Extract 1200mg ED Saw Palmetto 1000mg ED |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 6 2008, 03:17 PM |
| so... I just took my first 5mg...going to go lift...nervous as fuck! |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jul 6 2008, 03:27 PM | ||
lol dude chill out. at the very most you're gonna feel mildly lazy. Just eat something sugary and drink coffee. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 6 2008, 04:50 PM | ||||
just nervous as in starting my first steroid cycle...but my lift wa great mostly placebo would be my guess but I did legs I didnt bring a book so dotn go tthe exact weights but did 7 sets hack squats last three were drop sets highest weight was 270 I think. then did some sit ups superset of ham curls/leg extensions 3 sets each.. cant remember the exact weight but was pushing prety high pretty easy. then calf rasies 200lbs 3 sets 20 reps hit the skipping rope for 15 min with situps between sets then ended with side bends with 70lbs dumbell 3 sets of 10. now making some eggs and steak. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 6 2008, 07:47 PM |
| i been getting the sweats...its pretty hot out, but it kinda comes in waves...tired as hell but feeling pretty damn good! |
| Posted by: Roids Jul 6 2008, 08:39 PM |
| Get ready to gain some serious strength and size. I fell in love with M1T when I ran my first cycle. I did 20mg/day plus 4AD transdermal for my first PH cycle. It was the first time I'd used anything hormonal. But, it is basically poison with the side effect of muslce growth. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 6 2008, 08:48 PM | ||
yeah thats why i got so many supports and sups for PCT.. and not going over 10mg... so im good!! fuck this place is better then BB.com over there all i got was gay fags bitching an whinning. |
| Posted by: sin187 Jul 7 2008, 01:06 AM |
| 10mg is good enough. The only side I had was a super tight back; but delt with it. good luck |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 7 2008, 08:14 AM |
| Sleep was kinda shity last night...Kept having dreams about fucking up my new car haha..about to take another 5mg then make a shit load of eggs before heading to work. |
| Posted by: miggyg Jul 7 2008, 10:58 PM |
| DAY 2 6 15am - supports, 5mg M1T, 4 eggs toast protein shake. 9 45am - homemade chicken wrap, Roast beef sandwich, orange 11am - some mixed nuts 1pm- roast beef sandwich, mixed nuts, can of tuna 4pm - protein shake 5 40pm - supports, another chicken wrap. 6 15pm - white flood ( pre workout) 8pm - double pattied lean beef burger on whole wheat bun fresh off the BBQ with veggies going to have a protein shake before bed. ARMS super set tricep pull downs/ alt DB curls - 180lbs X15 , 45lbsX 15 DB, 190lbs X12, 50lbs X12 DB, 200lbs X10, 55lbs X10 DB skull crushers - 95lbs X10 X10 close grip bench X2 sets. Dropset BB curls - 100lbs dropping 10lbs down to 20lbs 10 reps each. 30 min jog in the park after lifting. Thats it was short quick hard lift..really felt this one. RATINGS WEIGHT - up 2 lbs.. nothing really noticeable. ( 180lbs) STRENGTH - Not noticing to much strength increase yet..im pulling my reps a little easier then normal. PUMPS - sure am feeling INSANE pumps.. after my BB drop set felt like my arms were tearing through my skin... I did some side bends yesterday and feeling some back pumps but its not anything thats bothering me. ENERGY - Not feeling super tired yet had a couple bad sleeps in a row but I was in a good mood at work today an everything went fine. SIDES - non really so far besides some tightness in lower back.. my nuts are A-O-K right now...shutdown should be kickin in soon tho LOL. |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jul 8 2008, 02:54 AM |
| just take advantage of the increased recovery time and protein synthesis. id say by the end of the first week you should really see the strength increase. at that point, smash weights more frequently and heavier. As Long as you dont feel run down or sore, go smash it up. And if you dont see any strength/weight changes by week 1, bump to 10mg. If you're bulking up and seeing personal bests at 5mg, fuck it...stay at 5. And Take something for sleep. Im always screwed up with insomnia of some degree and its not beneficial to hypertrophy. Def try to get 8-9 hrs a night on your cycle. I slept alright on M1T though. Mid-day naps and shit. |
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