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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 10:30 AM
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If he was taking in less calories than being burned how do you expect him to gain weight/muscle?

Just because you're taking test doesn't mean you'll magically add muscle out of nowhere. laugh.gif


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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 10:37 AM
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e-fight points would be the way 2 go

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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ Jun 4 2008, 10:19 AM)
If winny doesn't cut bf and only diet does, why did you use it? It must not have been needed if a diet is the only way you can lose bodyfat huh.gif And how are you going to say that Test didn't contribute to a single pound of muscle? You must've had bunk AAS or a shitty ass diet if you didn't gain a pound on Test

you're fucking retarded dude. he took AAS to retain as much muscle as possible when cutting and being in a caloric deficit. like will said, you're not gonna gain muscle burning more calories then youre bringing in even if your on gear. you're just gonna retain more muscle. the only AAS that has fat burning properties is tren, noob.
every time you post you make yourself sound less intelligent. rolleyes.gif
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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 01:03 PM
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animal you now proved to me that you dont know shit. i used winstrol for what winstrol is used for. the extra muscle sparing benifets and to help dry me out. it doenst have direct fat burning capabilites. tren is the only aas that can do that. i used it for a week then dropped it

HOW WOULD I BUILD MUSCLE ON A CALORIC DEFICIT? please animal, explain that to me. i would love to build muscle right now.

BY the way, you can lose muscle while cutting with a perfect diet while on high doses of test, tren, eq, masteron and winny all taken together for a good "cutting" cycle.

there is no "cutting steroid." some are just refered to that becuase they give less water retention. you can cut on deca and bulk on winny. it all depends on diet.

lol funny how u started this thread to watch out for noobs that give bad advice.
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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 01:28 PM
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wow animal i just saw your lifts. you can bench 75s incline for 8 reps laugh.gif i remember being able to do 70s incline the week i started working out 2 years ago.

now how many cycles have you done? you must be going for that bruce lee shredded look. wait are u even lean?


dont forget to answer my question on how many cycles you've done. the only muscle i've gained from drugs is off one 4 week ph cycle smile.gif
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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 11:29 PM
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Question, let's say someone is on a caloric deficit while natural, and while on AAS. Let's say it's a 4-500 calorie deficit. Now if you're on AAS, wouldn't the body be much more efficient in using those calories at the cellular level in terms of building mass or cutting fat? Thus someone who is natural wouldn't absorb 400g of protein like someone on AAS would due to increased protein turnover, etc.

goods, what AAS are you using to cut, Test E?
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Posted: Jun 4 2008, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (typeRob @ Jun 4 2008, 12:55 PM)
QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ Jun 4 2008, 10:19 AM)
If winny doesn't cut bf and only diet does, why did you use it? It must not have been needed if a diet is the only way you can lose bodyfat  huh.gif And how are you going to say that Test didn't contribute to a single pound of muscle? You must've had bunk AAS or a shitty ass diet if you didn't gain a pound on Test

you're fucking retarded dude. he took AAS to retain as much muscle as possible when cutting and being in a caloric deficit. like will said, you're not gonna gain muscle burning more calories then youre bringing in even if your on gear. you're just gonna retain more muscle. the only AAS that has fat burning properties is tren, noob.
every time you post you make yourself sound less intelligent. rolleyes.gif

actually, its to my understanding that Test, tren and var all have direct fat burning properties. Tren being the most powerful. but you cant just sit around and eat garbage on it and get lean. it just sort of assists.

do any of you actually lift weights?



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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 01:31 AM
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i believe that tren is the only gear with DIRECT fat burning capabilities.

the fact that test helps me keep muscle may help. more muscle=faster metabolism.

i've cut natty 3 times, and this time with test. all 4 times i've lost about 2lbs of blub a week. first couple weeks is more due to glycogen and water loss but in the end once i start eating a decent amount of carbs again, i've lost about 2lbs a week.

animal was acting like i dont have to work as hard when cutting since i'm on test.

false

i contribute zero lbs of my fat loss due to the added test. its called dicipline. i dont miss workouts and i dont cheat on non-cheat days. at all.

if anyone here can find a study or anything credable that insists that test has helped me lose even 5lbs more of blub, please do so
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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 01:33 AM
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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 01:36 AM
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dude everyone knows that Test gets you shredded mannnnnnn! I mean if i took 500mg of test a week i'd be like 5% by now and wouldn't even have to workout!

The only reason i'm blubbed is cuz i'm not on test! Not because i don't keep a strict diet or cuz i hit the bars once a week! fuckin nooobsters! blink.gif


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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 01:37 AM
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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 12:12 PM
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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (goodskie @ Jun 4 2008, 01:28 PM)
wow animal i just saw your lifts. you can bench 75s incline for 8 reps laugh.gif i remember being able to do 70s incline the week i started working out 2 years ago.

now how many cycles have you done? you must be going for that bruce lee shredded look. wait are u even lean?


dont forget to answer my question on how many cycles you've done. the only muscle i've gained from drugs is off one 4 week ph cycle smile.gif

Those were with 6 second negatives and a fucked up shoulder wink.gif I've only ran 3 or so ph cycles, but im pretty satisfied with my look right now. Im sitting around 205 at 11-12% bodyfat, which still need's major improvement. I'd like to be around 8-9%, while retaining as much mass as possible.

I wasn't looking for a fight Goodskie, I just found it odd that you didn't gain a single pound on Test

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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 03:52 PM
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you found it odd that i didnt gain a single lb while cutting for 3 months, on test?

so basically you found it odd that i didnt go from 270 to at least 271 while cutting for 3 months and losing 6-8%bf

noob?
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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 06:51 PM
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who knows maybe you did gain 1lb of muscle but theres no way of telling since you lost so much more fat lbs with the scale going down.
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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 08:13 PM
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i'd be curious what he weighs after he returns to normal cals and carbs for a couple weeks... chances are he'll gain about 10lbs back within a few weeks

I remember on his havoc/mdrol cycle he gained like 30lbs or sum shit b/c he had come straight off a cut

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Posted: Jun 5 2008, 09:49 PM
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ya i usually gain about 10lbs when i start eating a good about of carbs again. shit on carb up days i even go up 10lbs sometimes
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Posted: Jun 6 2008, 09:11 AM
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my prediction is that you'll balloon up to 400 lbs after this cycle and become a bed-ridden shut in. but then you'll run an oxymethelone A-bomb abuser cycle and drop down to 4% BF somehow. ph34r.gif

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Posted: Jun 6 2008, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Jun 6 2008, 09:11 AM)
an oxymethelone A-bomb abuser cycle and drop down to 4% BF somehow. ph34r.gif

Is that another way to say "a McRibb with a large order of fries?"

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Posted: Jun 6 2008, 09:19 AM
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Just run what Agent8 is doing. I bet he's jacked and tan.

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