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Posted: May 21 2008, 01:50 PM
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thoughts? reviews? legal?
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Posted: May 21 2008, 11:40 PM
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back a while ago I was going to give it the ol' college try but after perusing Wikipedia, and finding a link to one of the studies there, which involved otherwise normal and healthy adults taking regular dosages (from reputable brands like twinlabs, for example) in which participants died, I was rather thrown off the whole idea.

Personally I wouldnt go near it UNLESS I could get it from a doctor, say, i tricked him into thinking I needed it for something, because it would be the best form.

So try wikipedia, then if you still want it, i found either black ice or lopodrene to be the 2 most highly praised brands.
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Posted: May 21 2008, 11:42 PM
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wiki is very biased, do not believe a word they say unless its legit authors


alot of people like E, just be smart about it, keep dosage in a minimal range, and alot of people have positive results

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Posted: May 21 2008, 11:52 PM
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Yes, many people have great results, and also SS the link was to an external site, I think it was some Cambridge Medical Journal or something.

Apparently sometimes the levels of ephedra differ within the same batch, within the same brand, so even taking what is believed to be a small amount may be larger (or yes smaller) than thought.


That said, its probably a 1 in a ??100 ?? chance, maybe even 10,000 but for this reporter, the odds are still too high.

lol felt like throwin' that in
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Posted: May 22 2008, 12:09 AM
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no doubt that negative effects are legit, but alot of things play a role in whether the outcome with E is good or bad. I can also find studies proving healthy males recieving E have positive effects. It is all up to the OP, if u have issues with blood pressure, chol, heart rate, thyroid stay away from E, otherwise id say research it a lil more and give it a try if u feel its right.

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Posted: May 22 2008, 12:17 AM
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Not to hiijack the thread or anything, but I'm also looking in Ephedrine..I know it's used for energy and fat loss, that's a given, but what about for maintaining and building muscle?? Obviously you wouldn't use it on a bulk, but what if you want to keep adding muscle while getting leaner, would it be beneficial? Or does ephedrine take a lot of muscle with it?
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Posted: May 22 2008, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (Cdubya @ May 22 2008, 12:17 AM)
Not to hiijack the thread or anything, but I'm also looking in Ephedrine..I know it's used for energy and fat loss, that's a given, but what about for maintaining and building muscle?? Obviously you wouldn't use it on a bulk, but what if you want to keep adding muscle while getting leaner, would it be beneficial? Or does ephedrine take a lot of muscle with it?

Depends on diet bro, u'd need to be eating high protein everyday to maintain muscle mass. E is strong so i hear, I no Jayv takes it and has great success with it. It prob could be used to help keep off fat while bulking, or maintaing whichever of the two. Only problem i see is I hear E has strong appetite supressing properties, so if u believe u can still eat efficently, id look into it.

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Posted: May 22 2008, 12:29 AM
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I see absolutely no reason why ephera or its permutations would cause a decrease in muscle mass. Anyway, look into CLA as an alternative to Ephedra, or even WITH E.

However I still strongly encourage you to, while feeling in good health (not fried like now since its late, maybe tomorrow morning) take a good look at that Wiki article. They have links you can access to unbiased sites, and personally I don't think that article is biased, it just seems as such since the highlight of the article is obviously the banning due to the negative effects.

Again, deaths are on the rare side, but make sure you know and accept the odds before you take the plunge.

lol and thats the last I say about the Wiki article cuz im starting to sound like a Buzz Killington.
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Posted: May 22 2008, 09:04 AM
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yeah I know its dangerous, I've heard it has taken a few lives too but After the ban I think it has made strides towards making it safer? I don't believe anything on wikipedia, I am a college student and never hear enough about the false information that finds its way onto that trash website. I will look into alternatives, however the main reason I asked is because this kid I grew up with took it and he was always pudgy and get absolutely diced, it was amazing looking. So of course I was courious. Keep the feedback coming though guys.
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Posted: May 22 2008, 09:58 AM
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I'm taking 3 doses of 25mg Ephedrine HCL/ 200mg Caffeine everyday for the past 3 weeks, and its fucking terrific. I would not exceed 100mg -125mg max of Ephedrine

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Posted: May 22 2008, 12:56 PM
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RC..has your strength took a dive? Or are you still gaining?
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Posted: May 22 2008, 04:08 PM
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The E/C/A stack is by far the best fat burner/pre workout supplement that is legal. The government, in their wisdom, banned the herbal form, which usually was combined with caffeine (or an herbal form of caffeine) with stantardized 20% ehhedrine alkaloids of the herbal Ephedra or Ma Haung. Use with caution, starting twice a day and never after 5:00 p.m. One important thing is that you need to drink alot of water. I cramped quite alot when I took it.
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Posted: May 22 2008, 04:18 PM
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ephedrine is great. my mind has completely changed on the subject in the past two years. like most things hyped by the media and government, it's only dangerous when abused.
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Posted: May 22 2008, 10:54 PM
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imo, best fat burner ever
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Posted: May 23 2008, 11:29 AM
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Cdubya, strength has gone down a little, but I'm also using beta alanine which is helping and I'm doing more endurance/high rep stuff like pullups, dips, and squats

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Posted: May 23 2008, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (ShortStock @ May 21 2008, 01:50 PM)
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Ephedrine in a nutshell:

#1- Its NOTHING like real Ephedra. Ephedrine is merely *1* watered down component of genuine ephedra, thus its effects are nothing like the real thing. If it was comparable to the real thing, no way in hell would it be so easy to get to ahold of at your usual gas station.

#2- Fatloss: Don't listen to fools claiming it does, it does not. Any weightloss one has experienced by taking it, was due to whatever diet/exercise/lifting routine they're on at the time. Just taking ephedrine by itself is useless.

#3- One of the ONLY things its really useful for, and the only reason i continue to take it: Its GREAT as an appetite suppressant. Combined with caffeine(i like coffee), the effects are pretty good. Still, if you don't diet/exercise/lift at the same time, you won't lose a damn thing.

#4- Slightly extra energy. Because ephedrine is meant to help open up passage-ways for those with asthma problems, a side-effect of this is increased oxygen to the blood or something, which increases energy a bit. Not sure how it works exactly but thats the gist of it.

#5- NEVER, EVER buy from the internet!! This stuff is nothing special, and thus EASILY found at your typical gas station for about the same price, minus the shipping cost you'd pay if ordered online.

#6- Dangerous? Not really, if it did have the danger genuine ephedra does, it wouldn't be legal and so easy to get a hold of over the counter. I've taken up to 5 at once just to see the effects, and natta, nothing. Now i just do 2 a day, one in morning and again in afternoon. No need to take any more a day than that, the effects will be the same, and you'll only end up paying more by having to buy it more often if you take extra.


BTW i've been taking this stuff for years(for appetite suppressant), so I've got plenty of experience with it and know what I'm talking about.

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Posted: May 23 2008, 02:49 PM
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I agree with Grave here.


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Posted: May 23 2008, 06:32 PM
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i thought this stuff was the shit?

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Posted: May 23 2008, 06:44 PM
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Ephedrine HCl didn't do shit for me. Didn't feel the jitters, increased HR, or all of the other BS effects people claim it produces. Ephedra is a little different.
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QUOTE (yeashescool @ May 23 2008, 06:32 PM)
i thought this stuff was the shit?

As an appetite suppressant, it is quite EXCELLENT(w/caffeine) and helps a lot to stick to a diet.

For actual fatloss effects? Useless. Its all up to the person to MAKE it happen for themselves

I've lost quite a bit of weight while taking ephedrine sure, but it had nothing to do with it, it was because i was also dieting 24/7 and hitting the cardio & weight rooms everyday of the week.

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