Topical fatloss ATD

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Posted by: Mr_McCaslin May 14 2008, 08:32 PM
What up guys ? I have been looking into 1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione or Topical ATD the past couple days and I want to give it a try but wonder if there any sides to this stuff.


Those of you that have actually used this stuff please give me the low down on this stuff.. Thanks.




Mr. M

Posted by: accent115 May 14 2008, 08:43 PM
ATD= reduced estrogen and probably a diuretic effect on the topical area you apply it. However becareful not to go much higher than 25mg because you will see a loss in libido and joint soreness. Also, i wouldn't run it longer than 8 weeks because it can screw up your lipids as well.

Posted by: Mr_McCaslin May 14 2008, 08:51 PM
How would I know if I went over 25 mg ? Do you lose your progress once you stop taking this stuff ? What are all the pros and cons of using this stuff ?



Thanks for your fast response

Posted by: accent115 May 14 2008, 08:56 PM
QUOTE (Mr_McCaslin @ May 14 2008, 08:51 PM)
How would I know if I went over 25 mg ? Do you lose your progress once you stop taking this stuff ? What are all the pros and cons of using this stuff ?



Thanks for your fast response

Well i'd say from 25-50mg, and i'd check the bottle to let you know how much you're taking. I wouldn't expect too much progress from it, some hardening/fat loss at most. You shouldn't lose what you gained as long as your diet stays on point.
Pros: reduced estrogen- more test. Theoretically, more LBM growth, fat loss, increased sex drive, alpha male mentality
Cons: loss in libido, joint pain, depression, lipid levels messed up

Posted by: Mr_McCaslin May 14 2008, 08:58 PM
also with reduced estrogen test production will obviously pick up... but will it get to the point to where I have to worry about steroid-like side effects with throwing the balance between the two off ?

Posted by: accent115 May 14 2008, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (Mr_McCaslin @ May 14 2008, 08:58 PM)
also with reduced estrogen test production will obviously pick up... but will it get to the point to where I have to worry about steroid-like side effects with throwing the balance between the two off ?

well whenever you play with your hormones theres always a chance of gyno, and messin up your levels. But if you stay within a safe range for a safe amount of time and taper down the dosage you should be fine.

Posted by: Josh47933 May 14 2008, 09:53 PM
For topical fat loss, ATD isn't the best choice. There are several other optins that would result in better fat loss. ATD is great for estrogen control, but that's not the primary goal, based on the thread's title.

Posted by: Mr_McCaslin May 14 2008, 09:55 PM
then what is the best topical fatloss ?