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Posted by: jcsouthcentral May 13 2008, 08:33 AM

I'm interested in learning more about T3. I know the basics of what it is and it's function. I would like some feedback from those who have used it.

What dosage is good? I hear you should taper up and down but I don't know where to start. (I'm 6'1" about 230 or so)

How quickly do you see results?

Since it raises your metabolism, do you still need to restrict calories as drastically?

Assuming it is used it will be in conjunction with Tren Ace 50-75mg/day and probably Test Prop 75-100mg/day. I would have all anillaries on hand prior to starting cycle.

Posted by: TAC May 13 2008, 11:16 AM

[QUOTE]I'm interested in learning more about T3. I know the basics of what it is and it's function. I would like some feedback from those who have used it.

What dosage is good? I hear you should taper up and down but I don't know where to start. (I'm 6'1" about 230 or so)[QUOTE] - taper up rapidly to about 100ug/day (divide all doses up into morning and evening), then a slow taper back down. more than 100/day is possible, but play it safeu until you're used too the med

[QUOTE]How quickly do you see results? [/QUOTE] - very quickly, although with a little water retention it can be the end of the cycle before you see the final effect

[QUOTE]Since it raises your metabolism, do you still need to restrict calories as drastically? [/QUOTE] - no, but don't use that as an excuse to get sloppy with you're diet, too many guys (me!) have used T3 because they're too lazy to stick to a diet.

[QUOTE]Assuming it is used it will be in conjunction with Tren Ace 50-75mg/day and probably Test Prop 75-100mg/day. I would have all anillaries on hand prior to starting cycle.

[/QUOTE] - good cycle that - you really need an AAS with T3 to prevent muscle loss, prop/tren is a good combo (even better with a little winni!)

Posted by: jcsouthcentral May 13 2008, 12:13 PM

Should I start around 25mcg/day?

How quickly should I ramp up to 100mcg? Within 1 week? 2 weeks?

Is it important to taper down?

Did you experience any metabolic rebound?

Do you think I should cycle it against clen?

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal May 13 2008, 01:34 PM

QUOTE (jcsouthcentral @ May 13 2008, 12:13 PM)

Im cycling it 2 wk on 2 wk off, with low-moderate dose clen (75mcg/ED). Test + Tren and winni all in there too....

You should split your t3 into multiple doses throughout the day. Ie 25mg morning, 25mg noon, 25 mg night...

other than that...dont run it for too long, ie 6 weeks straight thru is too long and could possibly lead to other thryoid related problems.

I personally like to taper back calories, and really monitor carb intake while on t3. First wk of cut I was able to shed almost 11 lbs (mosly water due to win) but am levelling out now at around 4.5 lbs wk...strength is up, beginning to see striations in shoulders and vascularity all throughout upper body.

I would also reccommend to throw in 30 minutes of cardio each day, on my days off I do some plyo with the gf at the park...moving your legs and arms and working up a sweat is key.

My goals are to get big and strong but also maintain my agility and endurance...depending on what your goals are your routine or protocol may look a little bit different.

good luck!

Posted by: goodskie May 13 2008, 08:21 PM

There are soooooo many different opinions on how to run t3 its annoying.

i've heard to take doses all at once in the morn before eating from dr d. it does have a long half life...but not u guys take it 2-3 times a day.

bump on how fast to ramp up the dose. i've researched it a lot and even read some shit here but maybe some of u dose it differently then u did when those threads were made.

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal May 14 2008, 10:35 AM

QUOTE (goodskie @ May 13 2008, 08:21 PM)

...around 100mg t3, I get excessive nightsweats feel weak and tired, and extremely hungry all day long. Staying around the 75mg marks got rid of all these sides...looking lean and still feeling strong.

Posted by: azfittrainer May 14 2008, 11:19 AM

I would strongly recommend not using T3, using it may cause your thyroid to get over stimulated and become hypo. Then you will need thyroid medication, just to have normal levels.

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal May 14 2008, 11:35 AM

QUOTE (azfittrainer @ May 14 2008, 11:19 AM)

I would strongly recommend not using T3, using it may cause your thyroid to get over stimulated and become hypo. Then you will need thyroid medication, just to have normal levels.

I would strongly recommend you stfu.

Posted by: jcsouthcentral May 14 2008, 11:50 AM

Please don't turn my thread into an E fight. I just want some information.

Azfit-opinion noted

Posted by: jcsouthcentral May 14 2008, 04:20 PM

You both suck for littering my thread looking for information. Take this shit to the off topic.

Posted by: TAC May 15 2008, 03:36 AM

Im deleting these posts -

AZ and PF, take it to Off Topic or PM please.

Posted by: azfittrainer May 15 2008, 02:02 PM

Dude I'm just trying to give JC advice, PF is the one who keeps trying to start an e fight.

Posted by: joseph23573 May 15 2008, 02:36 PM

I took T3 back in the day. I believe it was tiratricol from omega sports. The only thing I noticed was muscle AND fat loss while on cycle. Wasn't worth it for me. I prefered clen while on cycle.

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal May 15 2008, 02:45 PM

...I'm on it now...cycling it 2 weeks on, and 2 weeks off...just started my 4th week of cutting, - loving it. Wouldn't suggest use it without gear tho.

PS: Azfit is a wanker.

Posted by: azfittrainer May 15 2008, 03:05 PM

QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 15 2008, 02:36 PM)

I took T3 back in the day. I believe it was tiratricol from omega sports. The only thing I noticed was muscle AND fat loss while on cycle. Wasn't worth it for me. I prefered clen while on cycle.

Plus clen can't fuck up your thyroid like T3 can.

Posted by: goodskie May 15 2008, 04:05 PM

clen can fuck up your heart.

i dont even think clen is worth opening the bottle for. i get zero noticable results from it. i've been cutting for over 2 months and i tried 2 weeks of it again and i noticed nothing even at 150mcg a day.

same thing for ECA. t3 may work, but i really dont think clen or eca are worth shit.

Posted by: jcsouthcentral May 15 2008, 04:27 PM

QUOTE (goodskie @ May 15 2008, 04:05 PM)

I've seen what T3 does for pros and it impresses me. I have seen what Lee Priest can go from by using it and just walking on the treadmill for cardio. I am going to definitely try it. I will use moderate dosages and keep you informed from time to time of what I think of it. I don't think I am going to go anywhere near 100mcg my first run. I think I am going to do 25 to start for a week and kick it to 50 if it is too slow.

I have read where people are taking it for 8 weeks at a time and having no negative effects. I ptobably won't go that far. My test goes back to normal after 10 - 15 week cycles. I would think my endocrine system would be able to accomodate some mild T3 abuse.

Posted by: Jayv24 May 15 2008, 04:31 PM

QUOTE (goodskie @ May 15 2008, 04:05 PM)

i really dont think clen or eca are worth shit.

you gotta use it in conjunction with diet and exercise.

you cant hit up burger king 4 days a week and jump on your stairmaster for 10 minutes a week and expect miracles.

What a noob!

Posted by: goodskie May 15 2008, 07:28 PM

I've lost 35 pounds.

my point was that clen and eca aren't worth taking because I didn't notice ANY extra fat loss.

do you even work out your back or legs?

Posted by: Jayv24 May 15 2008, 07:33 PM

QUOTE (goodskie @ May 15 2008, 07:28 PM)

I've lost 35 pounds.

my point was that clen and eca aren't worth taking because I didn't notice ANY extra fat loss.

do you even work out your back or legs?

well i dunno. you saw my old pics from 05. i was totally blubbed....very similar in appearance to the way you are now actually. but i lost fat like crazy on eca.

i worked out my legs earlier. i did the stairmaster for 20 mins and for back i did some jumping jacks at a fast tempo. im totally jackdafied now.

Posted by: goodskie May 15 2008, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Jayv24 @ May 15 2008, 07:33 PM)

QUOTE (goodskie @ May 15 2008, 07:28 PM)

I've lost 35 pounds.

my point was that clen and eca aren't worth taking because I didn't notice ANY extra fat loss.

do you even work out your back or legs?

u must mean a month ago when i was 250. or 10 weeks ago when i was 270?

i'm sure u lost blub like crazy. how much of that exactly do u contribute to eca?

Posted by: Jayv24 May 15 2008, 09:23 PM

Its hard to call. ok maybe at best an extra 300-400 cals a day are burned purely through thermogenesis.

BUT...the extra stimulation caused an increase in motor activity, IE jogging, smashing more weights, etc.

So its 2 part, a double edged sword if you will.

thermogenic and increases motor activity. Actually 3 part, because it reduces appetite somewhat.

i plan on trying t3 for my next abuser cyc.

its almost hard to believe you were nearly 300 lbs.

thats like 100 lbs away from being a bed-ridden shut in.

Posted by: goodskie May 15 2008, 10:12 PM

QUOTE (Jayv24 @ May 15 2008, 09:23 PM)

word, i went from 270 - 260 in a week tho, i only got to 270 cause of d-bol/

235 now

Posted by: azfittrainer May 16 2008, 10:13 AM

Clen is going to give you about a 7-10% increase in metabolism. If you burn 2,500 calories a day just through your basic metabolic rate, thats an extra 250 calories. Over 7 days that adds up to an extra 1/2 lbs fat loss.

Posted by: jbuzz May 29 2008, 07:06 AM

Taken from a post by TAC, this protocol helped in my dosage decision.

here are two T3 protocols Ive found useful -

T3

Days 1,2: 50mcgs
Days 3,4: 75mcgs
Days 5-18: 100 - 125mcgs
And HERE IS THE CRITICAL STAGE:
The SLOW taper. This is CRITICAL so that TSH levels
are allowed to adapt to the dosage so that there is no crash.
Days 19-22 : 125mcgs (or 100 depends on your max)
Days 23-26 : 100mcgs
Days 27-30: 75mcgs
Days 31-34: 50mcgs
Now, SUPER-SLOW(TSH will be VERY sensitive to ANY T3 now)
Days 35-41 : 37.5mcgs
Days 42-48 : 25 mcgs
Days 49-56 : 12.5 mcgs

8-weeks total.

6 Week T3

So if you look at part 1 of my suggestion (before taper)

Days 1,2: 50mcgs
Days 3,4: 75mcgs
Days 5-11: 100 - 125mcgs (reduction of 7 days i.e. 1 week)

Then part 2

Days 11-13 : 125mcgs (or 100 depends on your max)
Days 14-16 : 100mcgs
Days 17-19: 75mcgs
Days 20-22: 50mcgs

(reduction of 3 days from original)

Then part 3

Days 23-28 : 37.5mcgs
Days 29-33 : 25 mcgs
Days 34-42 : 12.5 mcgs

TOTAL 6 weeks

(with thanks to Wrongun!)

You dont really need a 'pct', but it would be wise to be especially tight on diet/cardio etc in the month after finishing - and taking some thyroid stimulating herbs wouldnt hurt, guggelsterones springs to mind.

Posted by: goodskie May 29 2008, 03:36 PM

i've read A LOT that the taper down does nothing

Posted by: jbuzz May 29 2008, 09:29 PM

Really? Everything Ive read says the taper is critical.

Posted by: goodskie May 29 2008, 10:22 PM

u know how it is. tons of conflicting info. i've heard both ways. i'd prob taper down tho just to be safe

Posted by: TAC Jun 2 2008, 10:43 AM

Dont know how much difference the taper makes in retoring natural T levels, but Ive tried T3 without the taper, and had a 'crash' at the end of the cycle - feeling tired all the time, weight (fat) gain etc

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Jun 2 2008, 11:01 AM

2 weeks on and 2 weeks off works fine for me...