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my systolic blood pressure jumps on orals, i don't have experience with gear but same concept i'm sure when on cycle i run around 130/70 - 135/72 normally i sit at 110/65 - 115/68 stims and clen on the other hand can push my resting systolic into the 140's Normal systolic in the 130's isn't horrible but isn't good either Current as of 03/08
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Well I don't know if there is a problem with my heart or something but im usually always in the 130-140s with systolic but my diastolic is always 50-60. I don't have insurance (USA) so I would see a doctor but it would cost around $200-$2000 im guessing. I was just wondering what kind of increases people have experienced and with what?
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| QUOTE (Jayv24 @ May 10 2008, 11:22 PM) | i was 160/90 last time i checked.
but i was drinking serious amounts of water and the stims combined.
hawthorne doesnt help. |
160 is high man. and drinking more water makes u retain less water... i'd get that fixed asap
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| QUOTE (goodskie @ May 10 2008, 11:35 PM) | | QUOTE (Jayv24 @ May 10 2008, 11:22 PM) | i was 160/90 last time i checked.
but i was drinking serious amounts of water and the stims combined.
hawthorne doesnt help. |
160 is high man. and drinking more water makes u retain less water... i'd get that fixed asap |
beh i'll live.
its just the water retention.
another reason why perpetual cycles wouldnt be a great idea for me.
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I'm 20 6'1" 217lbs bf%? (20-30% I can see my abs) AAS exp - none (2 PH cycles and I don't want more liver damage, hard drugs did enough) And I don't do drugs anymore it's just that I did them for 3 and half years and for the last 2 of those years I was into them real hard (pawned everything, lived on the street for 3 months). I havn't done any supps cept creatine and protein since december.
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i have pre-existing hyoertension (runs in the family). BP's usually around 150-160/95-100 off meds, around 140/90on ACE2 inhibitors Dbol, adrol and deca all send it through the roof. testosterone actually lowers it a little at first (no idea why!), and it then raises from about month 2 of the cycle. If I keep to shortie cycles, adjust my ace2 dose, avoid certain meds and control water retention I can keep BP same or lower on cycle as off. On the other hand I can do 9 month cycles, involving deca and dbol, not take BP meds or estrogen control and hit 210/110  which is the highest reading Ive ever had (both me and my Doc nearly sh*t ourselves!!)  TAC- 41 years non-stop bulking... Beefcaaaaaake!!!! I said "No" to drugs - but they didnt listen...
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| QUOTE (goodskie @ May 11 2008, 01:07 AM) | | ok. do u know how to do a real gear cycle? i'm guessing thats why this thread was started. didnt u think u have high bp cause ur on gear or what? |
No. I have Test E and Eq in the mail. If it doesn't get seized I will be doing it as soon as it arrives. I was just wondering what kind of BP increases people experience with what drugs and at what doses they were using them at because if my order comes through then I'm going to place another one and stock up so I don't have to order again for a couple years. I have moderately high BP. That's it. It's been in the 130's-140's systolic for the past 2 years now (since I've been checking it). So if someone went from 110 to 140 when doing doses of something I'm thinking about getting then that would be significant information for me to have because that could take me to the 160's-170's. If I just wanted to know what ones people experienced in bloodpressure increases on various drugs so I know what to expect or what I should avoid or what I should not run for 10-15 wks. If my stuff comes in I was going to run it like this Test E Wk1 : 800mg Wk2-3 : 600mg Wk4-9 : 500mg EQWk1 : 700mg Wk2-4 : 600mg Wk5-7 : 500mg I don't want to use any methyls for at least another year so I'm not concerened much with what people experience with those so much but I'm interested in Test Prop. If my stuff arrives the next cycle won't be until around christmas.
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EQ is known to raise blood pressure as is Test. I wouldn't sweat it. Remember to concentrate on cardio and it should get better. A lot of the blood pressure from Test is due to increased Estrogen. Try using some AIs. If you are doing EQ I assume you are doing a fairly lengthy cycle. Make sure to give yourself at least as much time off and concentrate on the cardio. You should be fine. Hell you're only 20. It will take you years to kill yourself unless you have really bad problems that you aren't mentioning.
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| QUOTE (erbzzz @ May 11 2008, 10:10 AM) | | QUOTE (goodskie @ May 11 2008, 01:07 AM) | | ok. do u know how to do a real gear cycle? i'm guessing thats why this thread was started. didnt u think u have high bp cause ur on gear or what? |
No. I have Test E and Eq in the mail. If it doesn't get seized I will be doing it as soon as it arrives. I was just wondering what kind of BP increases people experience with what drugs and at what doses they were using them at because if my order comes through then I'm going to place another one and stock up so I don't have to order again for a couple years. I have moderately high BP. That's it. It's been in the 130's-140's systolic for the past 2 years now (since I've been checking it). So if someone went from 110 to 140 when doing doses of something I'm thinking about getting then that would be significant information for me to have because that could take me to the 160's-170's. If I just wanted to know what ones people experienced in bloodpressure increases on various drugs so I know what to expect or what I should avoid or what I should not run for 10-15 wks. If my stuff comes in I was going to run it like this Test E Wk1 : 800mg Wk2-3 : 600mg Wk4-9 : 500mg EQWk1 : 700mg Wk2-4 : 600mg Wk5-7 : 500mg I don't want to use any methyls for at least another year so I'm not concerened much with what people experience with those so much but I'm interested in Test Prop. If my stuff arrives the next cycle won't be until around christmas. |
You do know you won't see any effect from running EQ for that short of a period time, or at least very little. The esther to that hormone is undeclynate(sp?) and takes a considerable amount of time to kick in.
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ya it seems orals really kick it up fast. so start doing cardio, cut some water. use adex on cycle, reduce sodium intake. i also would run the test at 500 and eq at 400 instead of the way u are but whatever. so unless you have anymore questions i think its been covered "if anything is evil itd be steroids, not the IFBB. The IFBB is pretty much just a gathering for all the world's best steroid addicts to compete and [PLINK=4481]see[/PLINK] who can abuse the substance the best. " - typerob (118th page of his posts, what a noob)
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