Cycle and Post Cycle Support supplement

No bias or anything, but I'm going to have to 100% agree. 1. the anecdotal evidence for Cycle Support + Post Cycle Support + Life Support is over whelming! 2. Much more cost efficient, in my opinion

A very good post by the OP, but as an informed supplement user (and off the record as an Anabolic Innovations Representative) I'm going to have to say - I've run 2 Havoc Cycles... a Prop Cycle (90mg/day)... as one of the Havoc cycles was also stacked with Prop... my use thereof of Cycle Support in all instances 1 week prior and 1 week post PCT along with the usage of Post Cycle Support in my PCT... all CBC blood panels were normal - and I made some fairly good gains & maintained a good 76% (on an estimated average) through the use of diet, smart training and my PCT with minimal adverse effects.

OP - great post nonetheless - as hormonal regulation and physiologically important - the information is outstanding! Thanks!

Is that all???

how did you like propadrol solo? how were gains/sides?

You can check out my log on BB.com -

{Sponsored Propadrol Log} - Finished!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107298931

I thoroughly was satisfied by running 90mg/ED for 4 weeks.

Read the pinned posts in this forum section (very top). Search for logs of both compounds (phera plex aka p-plex, etc. Havoc aka epistane aka epi, etc. (google). This will give you more information than most people are probably willing to type in a cycle support thread.

First PH Cycle?

I would run a solo Havoc cycle. Havoc (Epitiostanol) is methylated.. so it's hepatoxic. It's also androgenic... so we'll get to all the fun stuff. A simple, yet elegant outline would be as follows - from my readings/research on a first PH stack. You are of age (21+) and claim 5+ years of training... I do not condone the use of PH's or Designer Steroids, but then I would be a hypocrite.

My first PH stack (and I saw great results) was as follows.

Cycle Included;
-Havoc by RPN
-Cycle Support by Anabolic Innovations

Post Cycle Included;
-Toremifene (Yes, *I* recommend a SERM)
-6-oxo Extreme
-Cycle Support
-Lean Xtreme
(I didn't, but you may add Post Cycle Support, too)

Staples run throughout entire cycle;
-Whey Protein, BSN Syntha 6 (Strawberry)
-Whey Protein, Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard Whey (French Vanilla)
-Whey Protein, Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide 1.0 (Vanilla) - Casein
-Creatine, Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude
-BCAA/EAA, Controlled Labs Purple Wraath
-Multi Vitamin, Universal's Animal Pak
-Fish Oil, Optimum Nutrition's Fish Oil Capsules

Cycle looked as follows -

Week 1 - 10 mg Havoc, 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop w/ Pro Shake @ AM, 1 / Pro Shake @ PM)
Week 2 - 10 mg Havoc, 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop w/ Pro Shake @ AM, 1 / Pro Shake @ PM)
Week 3 - 20 mg Havoc, 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop w/ Pro Shake @ AM, 1 / Pro Shake @ PM)
Week 4 - 20 mg Havoc, 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop w/ Pro Shake @ AM, 1 / Pro Shake @ PM)

Post Cycle Therapy was as follows -

Week 5 - Day 1 & 2, Toremifene 120 mg (2 ml) - Day 3-7, Torem @ 90 mg (1.5 ml), 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop AM, 1 PM), Recommended Dose of Lean Xtreme & 8 Caps 6 OXO Extreme (4 AM, 4 EARLY PM)
Week 6 - Torem @ 90 mg (1.5 ml), 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop AM, 1 PM), Recommended Dose of Lean Xtreme & 6 Caps 6 OXO Extreme (3 AM, 3 EARLY PM)
Week 7 - Torem @ 60 mg (1 ml), 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop AM, 1 PM), Recommended Dose of Lean Xtreme & 4 Caps 6 OXO Extreme (2 AM, 2 EARLY PM)
Week 8 - Torem @ 30 mg (.5 ml), 2 Scoops Cycle Support (1 Scoop AM, 1 PM), Recommended Dose of Lean Xtreme & 2 Caps 6 OXO Extreme (1 AM, 1 EARLY PM)

Yup. You can easily throw Post Cycle Support in there, too during PCT.

Why only 20mg of Havoc?

I have to agree I would say 30mg for weeks 3-4 best of luck bro