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Posted by: derek99512 May 6 2008, 03:36 PM
thinking about starting a cycle of it. anyone with exp. have any do's or don'ts , or how did it work for you?

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal May 6 2008, 03:47 PM
stack with test. works wonders if you have relatively low - medium bf % (11-13%). youll notice ^ in strength. sheds water weight, uhm, just be careful it dries you out...dont use with letro or any type anti-e

Posted by: willpiazza31 May 6 2008, 03:58 PM
What happens if you use it and you have higher bodyfat %? Nothing?

Posted by: derek99512 May 6 2008, 03:58 PM
i was also told to use milk thislte and tribulus. how much of each a day?

Posted by: Vaporize May 6 2008, 05:39 PM
I like winstrol, good strength gains but if you aren't around 10% bf or less you wont notice much change in your physique. BTW I hope you aren't one of those gays and are doing an oral only cycle. Get test and stack them. BTW you can run AI while on winstrol, just be careful on the joints, be sure to drink water and take your fishoil/joint supps.

Posted by: Arnoldclone May 6 2008, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (willpiazza31 @ May 6 2008, 03:58 PM)
What happens if you use it and you have higher bodyfat %? Nothing?

No, if your above 15%, itll increase your body fat.

Posted by: Arnoldclone May 6 2008, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (Vaporize @ May 6 2008, 05:39 PM)
I like winstrol, good strength gains but if you aren't around 10% bf or less you wont notice much change in your physique. BTW I hope you aren't one of those gays and are doing an oral only cycle. Get test and stack them. BTW you can run AI while on winstrol, just be careful on the joints, be sure to drink water and take your fishoil/joint supps.

Better cancel my plans with the girl tonight, I just found out Im gay!

Posted by: goodskie May 6 2008, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (willpiazza31 @ May 6 2008, 03:58 PM)
What happens if you use it and you have higher bodyfat %? Nothing?

you'll still get the strength gains but u wont really notice the drying out effect since you're too blubbed. its good to get extra slicedered. i'm starting it next week so i'll let u know how i like it.

great contribution to the thread arnoldclone. hows your pct log thread going?

Posted by: goodskie May 7 2008, 02:28 AM
fuck it i started tonight.

oral only cycles are shit. winny only would suck but better than nothing to hold onto muscle for cutting

Posted by: derek99512 May 7 2008, 08:48 PM
do i take milk thistle and tribulus for everyday im on the winny?

Posted by: goodskie May 7 2008, 08:52 PM
milk thistle for your liver.

trib does nothing and you wouldnt wanna take it while on cycle even if it did anything

Posted by: derek99512 May 7 2008, 08:56 PM
so far everyone has told me to take trib when i take the winny, why do you say not to?

Posted by: goodskie May 7 2008, 08:58 PM
cause its a natty test booster. it would be used during pct to get back natty test. i really dont think it does anything tho.

where do u get your info?

and run some kind of test with your winny

Posted by: derek99512 May 7 2008, 09:00 PM
the guy who has got the idea in my head is a guy from my gym who i have known for years and he has done it quite a few times. and by test i assume you mean more gear of some kind? im pretty sure the only thing this guy can get is winny. not worth even doing?

Posted by: Vaporize May 7 2008, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (derek99512 @ May 7 2008, 09:00 PM)
the guy who has got the idea in my head is a guy from my gym who i have known for years and he has done it quite a few times. and by test i assume you mean more gear of some kind? im pretty sure the only thing this guy can get is winny. not worth even doing?

Better off with a prohormone if all you can get is winny because I'm 99% sure if you buy winny from a local supplier you will get charged out the ass for a decent dose. Run havoc or some other bullshit IMO.

Posted by: goodskie May 7 2008, 09:07 PM
eh if you're cutting it will help u keep some muscle. its liver toxic tho so u dont wanna run it too long.

yes i meant test as in more gear. do some research. read the stickies at the top of the page. you'll see what i mean

Posted by: derek99512 May 7 2008, 09:12 PM
he recommended i get 50 pills for 75$

Posted by: goodskie May 7 2008, 09:14 PM
research noob

Posted by: typeRob May 7 2008, 11:39 PM
QUOTE (goodskie @ May 7 2008, 09:14 PM)
research noob

no dont. unless you know what a google is, just start popping pills.....

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 03:56 AM
QUOTE (derek99512 @ May 7 2008, 09:12 PM)
he recommended i get 50 pills for 75$

50 pills is perfect. Take 4 pills a day and you will have a 6 pack in 3 weeks.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 03:58 AM
BTW I'm being fucking sarcastic. 50 pills doesn't mean a goddamn thing. They could be 50mg per pill or 5mg, this is why we say research, because by your questions it is 100% obvious you don't know jack shit about AAS. Winstrol does not make you "cut" btw, so don't take it for a summer 6 pack lol...

Posted by: derek99512 May 8 2008, 04:47 AM
nevermind i will just use another forum for info. thanks for reminding me why i stoped posting anything even close to a question.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 05:13 AM
QUOTE (derek99512 @ May 8 2008, 04:47 AM)
nevermind i will just use another forum for info. thanks for reminding me why i stoped posting anything even close to a question.

Lol good, do some homework and come back when you got a clue (probably never so bye bye wink.gif )

Posted by: derek99512 May 8 2008, 12:34 PM
you have alot of attitude for a manlet. i guess i would be pissed off at the world to. the only thing im pissed off about is there isn't an ignore poster option.

Posted by: goodskie May 8 2008, 03:19 PM
I answered how many of your questions and you still refuse to research?

what more do you idiots want? then you cry when we flame you. don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (goodskie @ May 8 2008, 03:19 PM)
I answered how many of your questions and you still refuse to research?

what more do you idiots want? then you cry when we flame you. don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

x2. Do you realize how dumb you sound? let me recap: "he said I should buy 50 pills for $75."

First off, we told you winny only is dumb but you don't listen to that.
Second, you can't post price for illegal compounds on this forum, it isn't open source.
Third, 50 pills is an arbitrary number and doesn't mean anything useful. We need to know the milligram concentration per pill in order to help you out.

Just from that single post I can deduce that you sir, are in fact worthless and can go suck on someone elses rod at a different forum where they might spoon feed you information. So take your 50 pills, and shove them up your ass because they are probably creatine anyhow.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 03:56 PM
QUOTE (derek99512 @ May 8 2008, 12:34 PM)
you have alot of attitude for a manlet. i guess i would be pissed off at the world to. the only thing im pissed off about is there isn't an ignore poster option.

oh noes another person calling me manlet. Lol you guys are so predictable. I'm comfortable at 5'8 FYI, so come up with something new rolleyes.gif

Posted by: joseph23573 May 8 2008, 03:56 PM
Vaporize, no offense, but you are an asshole.


There is no reason to bash someone like that.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 04:00 PM
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 8 2008, 03:56 PM)
Vaporize, no offense, but you are an asshole.


There is no reason to bash someone like that.

No offense taken. It's probably the tren, the fact I've been dieting hard for 2 months and have another to go, stress for finals, stress for my first 3 competitions coming up and running letro at 2.5mg ED makes you feel like shit.

That being said I still don't feel sorry, don't know what to say I guess I'm just an asshole. However, we gave advice and if someone isn't even going to put in a few minutes to research when they are about to do something as serious as AAS then IMO they have no use doing AAS so I wont sugar coat shit and pretend like they should be.

That is my philosophy, if you don't agree that is fine bro. I'd just rather not have more idiots running around swallowing pills giving educated users a bad rap.

Posted by: willpiazza31 May 8 2008, 04:01 PM
What the hell is a "manlet"?


Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 04:04 PM
QUOTE (willpiazza31 @ May 8 2008, 04:01 PM)
What the hell is a "manlet"?

I think it means someone under 5'10. Something tall people can say to make themselves feel better for their lack of mass most likely. laugh.gif

Posted by: joseph23573 May 8 2008, 04:09 PM
I agre 100% with everything you just said. I know it is everything you just stated. Focus that "garbage" onto something else, like a punching bag, or something like that instead of some guy who obviously needs to research.


Also, winstrol alone can be amazing to any kind of athlete such as a cyclist, or runner, rower, ect...

Taking a winstrol only cycle isnt ideal for body building. Stacking it with test, as you pointed out, probably a few times to derek, is the "right way" to do it for weight lifting. Otherwise, taken alone, you could expect strength increases for sure, and probably 10-20lbs after 6-7 weeks.

Posted by: goodskie May 8 2008, 05:17 PM
i agree with what you said joseph but after all this is a bodybuilding forum not a biking forum. that being said he should know to state what hes using it for if its not bodybuilding, which i bet it is.

also, i dont think vap was harsh. i told this kid to research several times and he just kept going. he asked for a flaming.

i also joined this site a long time ago and asked some stupid questions and got flamed hard. i was advised to make a new screen name, research and then come back. i did so and the flaming helped.

and i know you're not on gear anymore but i still liked u more when u were a prick. this is a forum. if people get hurt feelings here then they shouldnt be interested in hormones anyway

Posted by: joseph23573 May 8 2008, 05:28 PM
There is no need to bash like that, bottom line.

It was fueled by vap's synthetic hormones, and stress in his life. He took that aggression out on this guy.

Good argument, but it's still wrong.


Im sorry im not the asshole I used to be, but, magically that stopped when I stopped AAS.

Posted by: goodskie May 8 2008, 05:30 PM
how is that going for you btw?

how is your size, looks, strength compared to the gear ol days?

oh ya and that post i made where i got flamed, guess who was flaming me the most?

Posted by: joseph23573 May 8 2008, 05:58 PM
Who flamed you, probably me, because I was a douch on roids and now I cant stand it when people do that. Off of gear, I am the person who I used to be. I stick up for people rather than watch them be belittled at the expense of some roided up piece of shit whose reasoning is out the window and elevated to extremes.

Since then, I am not nearly as ripped, but I am bigger everywhere and can actually lift more on every excercise since I stopped.

I have a girlfriend, and I was an asshole to her while on roids. It wasnt worth it. So I stopped because it was either the drugs or her. And I dont regret it.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 06:12 PM
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 8 2008, 05:58 PM)
Who flamed you, probably me, because I was a douch on roids and now I cant stand it when people do that. Off of gear, I am the person who I used to be. I stick up for people rather than watch them be belittled at the expense of some roided up piece of shit whose reasoning is out the window and elevated to extremes.

Since then, I am not nearly as ripped, but I am bigger everywhere and can actually lift more on every excercise since I stopped.

I have a girlfriend, and I was an asshole to her while on roids. It wasnt worth it. So I stopped because it was either the drugs or her. And I dont regret it.

you are absolutely right. I'm a roided up piece of shit. Let me find myself, like a hippy, and give more sensitive advice so I don't hurt people's feelings over the internet.

Ok, derek, I say you buy those 50 pills because winstrol is going to be great for a summer cutting stack. You will gain some awesome strength on it and lose a lot of water weight which will make you look amazing. You don't need to research, who wants to spend time on that anyway? Take the guys advice from the gym because he is probably JACKED and will help you out 100% and wont try to scam you at all because he really cares about you like everyone on this forum does. If you have any more questions feel free to ask, we are here to help my man!


Thanks Joseph, I'm glad I could reconnect with my inner self. I feel much better now, a lot better than when I slap my girlfriend across the room for back talking. next time I get the urge to pimp slap her i'll be sure to meditate and watch Broke Back Mountain with a box of tissue and some tampons.






















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Posted by: goodskie May 8 2008, 06:15 PM
well i dont think us flaming derrick has anything to do with gear. i just think its a good way to get someone to research. what are we gunna do spoon feed him? he needs to learn everything on his own so he actually knows everything and not just winging cycles.

vap is also 36 hours from a show, he should be fuckin bitter.

and derrick asked 55 questions til it was time to get flamed. i'm always a smartass. i have a girlfriend too. i got one when i stopped getting drunk and high everyday and being a loser. my gf doesnt know i'm on gear so obviously test doesnt affect me as far as rage.

just get sick of the same old questions. you would too if u came here all the time still

Posted by: derek99512 May 8 2008, 06:35 PM
joe dont even worry about it, after surfing the web for so many years i have seen my share of douchebags.

unless we can get some sort of ignore function this forum has taken a serious down turn with the recent spat of these people coming around.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (derek99512 @ May 8 2008, 06:35 PM)
joe dont even worry about it, after surfing the web for so many years i have seen my share of douchebags.

unless we can get some sort of ignore function this forum has taken a serious down turn with the recent spat of these people coming around.

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Get out of this section/forum you obviously don't lift. You spend more time talking about pot than you will about AAS. Get a fucking clue dipshit rofl.

Posted by: goodskie May 8 2008, 06:40 PM
god ur a fuckin pussy too stupid to read. grow a set and a brain while you're at it. maybe you could smoke the winny out of an orange.

i answered you're stupid fuckin questions and gave u advice, then u cry and suck josephs dick casue you're too lazy to read

Posted by: derek99512 May 8 2008, 06:46 PM
both of your insults are deeply hurting me. i am sure i will lose many hours of sleep. your wasting your time. if its so pointless why are you still reading this thread?

Posted by: joseph23573 May 8 2008, 06:47 PM
Vaporize is a tool. A roided out freak who takes out his problems and "vaginal like" temper tantrums out on people who need advice.

What a pathetic cock sucker, in all honesty.

Goodskie calls out derek in another thread about being a "junkie" AKA drug addict/abuser as if taking anabolic illegal steroids is not being "junkie" like.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 8 2008, 06:47 PM)
Vaporize is a tool. A roided out freak who takes out his problems and "vaginal like" temper tantrums out on people who need advice.

What a pathetic cock sucker, in all honesty.

Goodskie calls out derek in another thread about being a "junkie" AKA drug addict/abuser as if taking anabolic illegal steroids is not being "junkie" like.

Lol go be a hippy in another forum fag. I speak the truth, if you don't wanna hear it (goes to derek) then stfu and leave. Nothing I said was false or misinformed. If you want a tissue I'm Joseph will let you blow your nose on his boxers.

Posted by: goodskie May 8 2008, 06:52 PM
lol i was just sayin that to talk shit. i used to smoke. i'm just tryin to get the kid to research. u know he needs to joey

eh joseph, u've run 8 week phera abuser cycles so you probly shouldnt talk. grow some balls. do u really think we should just be all nice and spoon feed here?

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 06:55 PM
Joey poo, weren't u the douche that ran phera for 8 weeks at like 90mg or some stupid shit? What you got to show for that abuser cycle? Oh, thats right, nothing. Who REALLY is the abuser here? I do sane cycles, well planned and researched. don't act like you "turned a new leaf' or something gay just because you got smaller and stopped lifting or some shit. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

Posted by: joseph23573 May 8 2008, 06:58 PM
Vaporize, you are such an internet pussy. You have no idea you fuckin midget.

Posted by: Vaporize May 8 2008, 06:59 PM
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 8 2008, 06:58 PM)
Vaporize, you are such an internet pussy. You have no idea you fuckin midget.

LMAO I swear when you guys gonna learn I could give two shits if you think 5'8 is a midget. Internet pussy... hahaha whatever the fuck that means. Just because you have nothing to say to insult me or prove me wrong you make shit up? come on hippy boy, you used to be a lot more entertaining than that.

Posted by: goodskie May 8 2008, 07:01 PM
wow that was gay, i dont wanna get into shit with u joseph but calling somone a midget is pretty fuckin lame, especially since u have threads about your fuckin car.

u have no room to talk about ANYONE geared out.

Posted by: Jayv24 May 8 2008, 07:17 PM
(opens a bottle of Anastrazole and passes it around)



Posted by: willpiazza31 May 8 2008, 11:04 PM
This is awesome!!!


Posted by: Will109090 May 9 2008, 12:42 AM
Word, from the looks of it, it seems as though Joe may be back on the juice!

Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 08:02 AM
vaporize, you are right, Im not going to sling shit back and forth. i have too much important stuff to do than argue with you.


I just wanted to point out the unnecessary flaming, which was fueled by your steroid abuse and other "stresses" you pointed out.


If I see someone being treated like shit, I say something. Thats the way I am, the way I always will be.


"Internet pussy", basically, what you are, is someone who will say anything over the internet to sound tough. If you were right in front of me, I doubt you would say half the shit you did. Because, I would roll you. A mouth like that would get you stomped if you said it to the wrong person.

Goodskie, we are cool. And, you know exactly the point I am getting across.

Posted by: Vaporize May 9 2008, 11:10 AM
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 9 2008, 08:02 AM)
vaporize, you are right, Im not going to sling shit back and forth. i have too much important stuff to do than argue with you.


I just wanted to point out the unnecessary flaming, which was fueled by your steroid abuse and other "stresses" you pointed out.


If I see someone being treated like shit, I say something. Thats the way I am, the way I always will be.


"Internet pussy", basically, what you are, is someone who will say anything over the internet to sound tough. If you were right in front of me, I doubt you would say half the shit you did. Because, I would roll you. A mouth like that would get you stomped if you said it to the wrong person.

Goodskie, we are cool. And, you know exactly the point I am getting across.

That's the thing, it's the internet lol. How the FUCK can you get your feelings hurt on the internet. By the way I was 100% accurate in my assumptions on Derek so piss off. And who is the internet pussy making threats? Oh noes don't roll me in real life! You know that will never happen so don't even waste your breath, we will never meet so keep being and internet WARRIOR JOEY!! ZzZ

Regardless, my knowledge in this section is useful but if you don't like my delivery than I guess you can continue to cry every thread I offer advice in. And for the record, I've always been a dick online, I get a kick out of it because it is funny to me how people let the internet get them upset (don't say you didn't get upset, you just threatened to "roll" me over the internet lmao).

Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 11:17 AM
Ok VAP, you win!!! YEAH!!!



Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 11:28 AM
QUOTE
I've always been a dick online, I get a kick out of it because it is funny to me how people let the internet get them upset (don't say you didn't get upset, you just threatened to "roll" me over the internet lmao).



Something leads me to believe it isn't just "online".


Anyhow, I bet you are pretty cool off of all that tren!!! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal May 9 2008, 01:09 PM
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 9 2008, 11:28 AM)
Anyhow, I bet you are pretty cool off of all that tren!!! rolleyes.gif

I bet you he isn't!

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Posted by: Vaporize May 9 2008, 01:14 PM
QUOTE (PotentiallyFatal @ May 9 2008, 01:09 PM)
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 9 2008, 11:28 AM)
Anyhow, I bet you are pretty cool off of all that tren!!!    rolleyes.gif

I bet you he isn't!

ph34r.gif

You guys just don't understand my humor is all. I am as much as dick in person as I am online except it is usually sarcasm. I like to ruffle people's feathers by mocking them or something but they know not to take it seriously. But on this forum, this picture sums it up pretty well.

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Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 01:15 PM
PF, I was attempting to squash it, like a good Christian would rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Vaporize May 9 2008, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 9 2008, 01:15 PM)
PF, I was attempting to squash it, like a good Christian would rolleyes.gif

I'm not really religious but who holds grudges on the internet? lol I'm over it man, if anyone posts questions and ATTEMPTS to research or opens a discussion I don't care if we ever had an "e-fight", I will be more than willing to help or offer my opinion.

Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 01:21 PM
Yes, let's play nice tongue.gif

Posted by: goodskie May 9 2008, 01:46 PM
oh I see we're sucking each others dicks now

Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 01:51 PM
I learned it from you Goodskie. Watching you suck on VAP's cock looked tempting, I must admit rolleyes.gif

Posted by: goodskie May 9 2008, 02:10 PM
he's just so jacked and tan.

have you noticed how you keep talkin shit to me and I don't say shit back?

that weird since im on gear and you arent.

Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 02:19 PM
Goodskie, im not talking shit, Im being "sarcastic" rolleyes.gif

Cant you take a fucking joke playa?

Posted by: ShakesAllDay May 9 2008, 02:27 PM
I must say, Derek's blatant lack of research did call for some type of "Got Search" reprimand by the BN Illicit Substances membership.

And some of that shit Vaporize said cracked me up.

It may have gotten too personal (yes, this CAN happen over the Internet).

Derek... what kind of research did you do before asking any of the questions in this thread?

Posted by: PotentiallyFatal May 9 2008, 02:29 PM
QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ May 9 2008, 02:27 PM)
Derek... what kind of research did you do before asking any of the questions in this thread?

google winstrol, if that dry.gif

Posted by: goodskie May 9 2008, 02:37 PM
that's what im sayin. we didn't even hit him hard. fuck I answered most of his stupid questions.

and joseph, you were serious with most of your shit talking.

Posted by: joseph23573 May 9 2008, 02:41 PM
Who proclaims you the "teller of truths", Goodskie? That is your opinion.

Posted by: goodskie May 9 2008, 02:55 PM
oh really? then what all were you kidding about?

Posted by: yeashescool May 10 2008, 12:10 AM
i think goods and vap give solid advice, they just dont suck your cock while doing it and neither would anyone else

Posted by: Cdubya May 10 2008, 03:29 PM
I don't have any beef with anyone on here except jame's faggot ass but I just read the whole thread from the first page and with all do respect Derek, you sorta needed a flaming there bro. You can't just say some dude at the gym said take 50 pills of this and you'll get huge..you shoulda laughed in that guys face afterwards..Who ever describes orals by the # of pills to take? It's always about the mg's and if you didn't know that then you're not ready for a cycle man..there's plenty of stickies and other threads to learn before even thinking about asking questions, it's all right there for you. I don't think Goodskie and Vap were out of line at all. They tried to help and then Derek fired even dumber questions so he definitely needed to be told to research..