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Posted: May 2 2008, 11:01 AM
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Ok, I've done plenty of experiments with AAS, but never GH.

I recent found some for a great price and can't pass it up.

I've read everything I can, but I have a couple questions that I haven't been able to find the answers to.

I'm 5'9" 210 28yo. I'm still strong and what not, but I also used to weigh the same amount with much less bodyfat. Sucks.

So, my main goal with this is bodyfat loss. If I can gain some muscle, that's great, but it's secondary.

I'm thinking 2iu/day, 5on 2off, for 4 months. From what I've read, that seems like it would be satisfactory.

But I was wondering about insulin sensitivity, thyroid slowing, etc. At that low a dose, do I need to worry about those things? I some some T3 laying around, if I really need to use it. I can't get metformin or anything, but could use R-ALA or K-R-ALA. I'm not sure if it's even an issue at 2iu/day.

Was thinking of possibly throwing in a legal hormone just towards the end or possibly the 2nd and 4th months.

Suggestions? Does my regimen seem right?

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Posted: May 2 2008, 11:22 AM
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2IU is still fairly low, i'd eventually up it to closer to 4IU split into two shots a day, 2IU each time.. Also I'd run it everyday not 5 on 2 off

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Posted: May 2 2008, 11:43 AM
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Hmm...I've read things about ED instead of 5o2o...

But this also came from a competitive guy.

I've read so much contradictory stuff...

If nothing else, at 2iu, should I just take it all in the morning?

If I take it ED, I'll go from 4mo to about 2.5...I might be able to get more at a later date, I just don't like to count on it when it comes to my cycles.

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Posted: May 2 2008, 12:55 PM
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There are so many theories on how to run GH...E3D, EOD, ED, split doses, high doses, low doses, before bed, upon awakening.........what Gary says is pretty much the dosing fvor weight loss BUT the time on will have you broke in no time because you have to run it for MONTHS not weeks like AAS. Most people dose it 5 on and 2 off but, as I wrote, theories vary. I've seen people running 20 or more IU's E3D.

I wasn't really impressed with the fat loss while using it, there is some decent loss but the price it comes at makes those pounds very expensive.

The only problems I have noticed were numb hands/fingers and high blood sugar, gh messes with the bodies 'slin and thyroid levels. The numb hands weren't too bad but after some time my fingers got stiff like they were bloated and couldn't bend properly at the joints. Flexing them for a short time worked OK as did running them under water ( I couldn't grip my toothbrush very well).

Not everyone experiences what I did and some experience other problems. Some people have write they got very good results.

Try it for yourself and see what YOU get from it....
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Posted: May 2 2008, 02:49 PM
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Why don't you just run an EC stack along with a clean diet? I'm not too familiar with HGH but if you're just looking for fat loss there's plenty of other routes to take bro..
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Posted: May 2 2008, 02:54 PM
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Yeah why would you just use it for fatloss? You can cut up and gain muscle with other things like the AAS you said you've done.

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Posted: May 3 2008, 12:27 AM
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Take it every day or twice a day for 4 months, then think about AAS's.

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Posted: May 3 2008, 03:37 PM
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Thanks for the replies.

I'm not just taking it as a super-expensive weight loss drug, I've really wanted to try it for a long time.

It's just that at the moment, I wouldn't be running it along with a cycle of AAS, as I'm not interested in being any bigger--at the moment, anyway.

I guess no matter what I do, it's gonna work. My buddy that's been taking it says his body just feels all around better.

I plan to take it for 4 months. I'd LIKE to take it longer, and if it's still available and I have more money, I may do that.

I don't think it's going to make me skinny and beautiful while I sit around or anything, I just WANT to try it and figure that it will work pretty well...

I know what to do and how to eat--whether using AAS or not. I would assume the same applies.

I suppose I'll take low dose cytomel (I have 5mg and 25mg tabs) and then 200-300mg of R-ALA several times a day to try to combat insulin resistance. I'm not willing to take insulin...

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Posted: May 4 2008, 02:27 PM
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This might be a dumb question but does HGH increase the size of your head?

I heard it can. Barry bonds' dome got much bigger in comparison to earlier pics....so im just wondering.

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Posted: May 4 2008, 06:13 PM
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i think it just makes your face look bigger. look at jay cutler. i dont think it physically increases the size of your skull though, someone correct me if im wrong....

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Posted: May 4 2008, 07:13 PM
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They probably just get bigger facial muscles that makes their head appear bigger. A combination from the steroids and hgh.

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Posted: May 4 2008, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Gary46080 @ May 2 2008, 11:22 AM)
2IU is still fairly low, i'd eventually up it to closer to 4IU split into two shots a day, 2IU each time.. Also I'd run it everyday not 5 on 2 off

Some people preffer to use 10iu HGH twice a week mixed with 10-15iu slin. If you want the ultimate multiple dose per day use CJC.

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Posted: May 4 2008, 10:46 PM
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Nah, not his face, his HEAD.

His head grew from size 7 1/8 to 7 3/4.

and His feet grew from size 10 1/2 to size 13


These changes took place AFTER he was 25, actually in his early 30's.

So he wasnt some scrawny teen who just grew into his body. His head and feet grew while he was in his 30's.

Tren doesnt do that.

Test doesnt do that.

So, hgh?

heres the article. theres probably 10,000 more about it elsewhere.

http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660200642,00.html

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Posted: May 5 2008, 01:19 AM
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how? it says it right in the article. head presses and foot cleans

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Posted: May 5 2008, 01:59 PM
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HA.

I've heard higher doses make the bones in your feet, hands, and head grow. Internal organs as well.

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Posted: May 5 2008, 11:35 PM
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I guess get that little bit extra reach and effiecency in life.

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Posted: May 10 2008, 04:44 PM
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serostim 4 on 2 off... mix with bact water for extra life.. morning shots.. nite shots waste of time your asleep....
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