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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 06:17 AM
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Serra is a bitch...

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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 09:00 AM
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thats a dick move putting a result in a thread title like that. I wasnt going to watch this one, plus i knew gsp was going to win. But im sure your going to piss someone off.
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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 10:24 AM
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ya that is a dick move. but i dont care about this one. i'm glad tho. serra is a faggot. care to elaborate or just ruin the fight for everyone?
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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 10:28 AM
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yeah that was a beat down. im glad gsp won of course but i like serra. i hope he mangles hughes.

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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 10:30 AM
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I'm not a huge MMA guy, but I've been reading a little bit about this matchup. Why all the hate for Serra? I watched the first fight and he beat St. Pierre's ass, fair and square...why no props for that?

I know that he's an outspoken, cocky guy...but what do you expect? He fights for a living...let him talk all the smack he wants, cuz he's willing to get in the ring and put it on the line.

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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 10:53 AM
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u dont have to be a cocky fuck like serra. look at rampage. hes the funniest and baddest mother fucker in the ufc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssEwKbWCyEI&feature=related
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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 11:10 AM
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fuck what ever the fight was well over when I posted this.

I went to my first live event last night also. Big Fight Night few towns over fighter all across Canada was like 50/50 MMA ufc style and kick boxing. There was one of the hardest knock outs I ever seen in the Welter class MMA.. home town guy knocked some eastcoast guy out with a straight right and ashe was falling down he got a full knee to the head and the guy was out for a ood 10 min.

Great night of fighting!

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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 20 2008, 10:30 AM)
I'm not a huge MMA guy, but I've been reading a little bit about this matchup. Why all the hate for Serra? I watched the first fight and he beat St. Pierre's ass, fair and square...why no props for that?

I know that he's an outspoken, cocky guy...but what do you expect? He fights for a living...let him talk all the smack he wants, cuz he's willing to get in the ring and put it on the line.

He did beat him fair and square but everyone gets a good knock out punch once awhile and he made it seem like GSP would never have a chance again cus he happened to land a big punch...he talked shit and GSP owned him and embarrassed him like he did huges.

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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (goodskie @ Apr 20 2008, 10:53 AM)
u dont have to be a cocky fuck like serra. look at rampage. hes the funniest and baddest mother fucker in the ufc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssEwKbWCyEI&feature=related

I'm not saying anyone HAS to be cocky or talk shit...just wondering why the disrespect. If I landed 21 straight punches on somebody and knocked them the eff out...I'd feel warranted in my shit talking too.

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hes a bad mother fucker. but so was tyson and vick. see what i'm getting at?
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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE (goodskie @ Apr 20 2008, 11:33 AM)
hes a bad mother fucker. but so was tyson and vick. see what i'm getting at?

Serra is the youngest fighter to ever unify the heavyweight title belts, also rapes women and kills dogs?

He's a ridiculous God given talent who's throwing it away with poor personal decisions?

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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 11:43 AM
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did i say any of that? and tyson and vick didnt do that shit early in there careers either. serra still has plenty of time.

i'm not saying hes THAT bad either. i'm just saying hes a badass but a fuckin cock

you asked why all the hate for serra. i answered. i'm not gunna argue about it
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QUOTE (goodskie @ Apr 20 2008, 11:43 AM)
did i say any of that? and tyson and vick didnt do that shit early in there careers either. serra still has plenty of time.

i'm not saying hes THAT bad either. i'm just saying hes a badass but a fuckin cock

you asked why all the hate for serra. i answered. i'm not gunna argue about it

Chill broham. Like I said, I'm not into the MMA scene so I legitimately wanted to know about the lack of respect for Serra. Also, I didn't get your Tyson/Vick reference. Those guys were phenomenons...unreal talents who suffered HUGE falls from grace. I didn't get how that had anything to do with Serra, since I'd never heard of him being a huge phenom or doing anything crazy.

Not trying to argue bro. If you think he's a cocky fuck and you don't like that about him...that's cool. Was just wondering why MMA fans in general seem to disrespect him, that's all.

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Anyone have a link to the fight?
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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 12:03 PM
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ya i'd like to see that too
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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 20 2008, 10:30 AM)
I'm not a huge MMA guy, but I've been reading a little bit about this matchup. Why all the hate for Serra? I watched the first fight and he beat St. Pierre's ass, fair and square...why no props for that?


I think it's the history...

Serra
As I'm sure you know, the UFC sponsors "The Ultimate Fighter" reality show. The way the show usually works is they bring in a bunch of fighters and at the season finale they award the winner a UFC contract.

A few seasons back they had some idea to bring back a bunch of mediocre fighters who had already fought in the UFC but managed to fail horribly...one of the fighters was Matt Serra.

Prior to the show, Serra only had 11 pro fights with 4 losses. 6 of those 11 fights came by way of decision...so Serra on one hand had a reputation for going the distance but also seemed to be able to finish the fight via submission or knockout.

During the TUF Comeback, Serra established himself as a leader of the team he was on. I have to give him some props here, he was a great team player, always helping out and motivating everyone. Serra ended up beating Pete Spratt to earn a spot in the semi-finals. Pete Spratt is a 17-12-0 fighter...just to give you an idea of the opposition.

Semi-Final fight they put Serra up against Shonie Carter. Carter had already beat Serra during UFC 31 with a *very lucky* spinning back-fist...knocked Serra out COLD. So during the TUF Comeback matchup, Serra ends up beating Carter via DECISION. So the final matchup is Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle (25-15-5).

I don't really remember the Serra vs. Lytle fight but Serra ended up winning via SPLIT DECISION. It was undoubtedly controversial. This earns Serra a shot at the title.

GSP
It's hard to find people who dislike GSP. He had a rough childhood where he got his ass beat and his clothes stolen. He eventually turned to Karate. Unlike Mike Tyson who had a similar childhood, GSP is not a complete fuck-up. He epitomizes class. Dude is soft-spoken and seems like he usually is pretty respectful of his opponents. He is very technical, strategic and is always trying to improve his game.

He was undefeated until he had a title shot against Matt Hughes in UFC 50. GSP had alot of respect for Hughes to the point where he kind of feared him...he was awe-struck by Hughes during the fight because he had always looked up to Hughes and admired him. Long story short, Hughes caught GSP in a submission and GSP tapped with 1 fucking second left on the clock!

After this, GSP went back to training...whipped 5 peoples asses before getting another shot at Hughes at UFC 65. GSP utterly DESTROYED Hughes and was finally champ.

GSP meets Serra and the subsequent bullshit
I'm not sure what the fuck happened during this fight...maybe GSP underestimated Serra or something but GSP ends up getting knocked the fuck out by Serra.

Serra became the champion.

The UFC decides to put Serra and Hughes as coaches of the next Ultimate Fighter show with plans of Serra and Hughes fighting at the end to give Hughes a chance to get the title back.

Serra claims he got hurt and was unable to fight Hughes. The UFC decides to put the title up for grabs in an interim fashion. Sean Sherk (lightweight champ) popped positive for steroids and was suspended by Nevada fight comission so they yanked his title and also put it up for grabs. BJ Penn ended up with the lightweight *interim* title.

Hughes and GSP fight for the welterweight interim title and Hughes gets his clock cleaned once again in an extraordinary fashion. GSP totally dominates the hell out of Hughes and Hughes has to VERBALLY submit because GSP has him so tighed up.

So GSP ends up with the title again and Serra comes back out of the woodwork and wants to solidify himself as the champion. Funny that Serra was injured for Hughes...did he see this as a bad matchup?

In conclusion
In fighting, boxing...whatever. Everyone has a punching chance. You could put ANYONE up against Rampage Jackson and maybe 1 in 1000 times they might catch him with a punch and knock him out. It doesn't mean that this person is rightfully the UFC champion. I think that's how alot of people felt about Serra beating GSP.

Before the fight, nobody in the fucking world thought for a millisecond that Serra could beat GSP...and he got lucky and that was the end of it.

Hopefully this cleared some shit up for you.


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Posted: Apr 20 2008, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (unstable @ Apr 20 2008, 12:23 PM)
Hopefully this cleared some shit up for you.

Eh...I guess. Dude fought his way through the reality show, won it, got a shot at GSP, beat his monkey ass, then everyone hated on him and said it was lucky. They were his fists...it was GSP's face. I watched the fight, didn't seem lucky to me.

It's cool. Like I said, I'm not into the MMA scene as much as you guys, so there's probably a lot of subtle stuff in interviews, etc that I wasn't exposed to. Maybe he acted like a dick or maybe folks just like GSP so much that they could accept that "the guy from the reality show" cleaned his clock.

It's just like NASCAR or boxing...people have their favorite guys, villans are created, etc I guess.

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actually most people me included really like serra so i dont think it was everyone against serra so much as everyone for gsp.

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LOL that surrey kid got the lowest score in UFC history.

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