I plan on taking a new stack of some supps...nothing major...just looking to lean out a bit and increase some strength..thinking on going with...

Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate 2:1 (powder BN brand)
Creatine Ethyl Ester HCl (powder BN brand)
Citrulline Malate Powder (powder BN brand)


ZMA BN


(I already own Whey protein, (BCAA powder, taken during lift), and a multi)


questions...

how many grams of each (arginine, creatine, citrulline) should i put in a pre workout shake....

- should it be takn on an empty stomache?
- should i take it 30 minutes prior to lifting like most pre workout supplements?
- I chose cee because i read that it takes less days to load and you dont get bloating or as much water retension...is this accurate?

- would it be beneficial to put more cee and arginine in my post workout shake?


Question about the ZMA....

before i got to bed i take a protein shake with 2 tbsp of natty pb....would I want to take the ZMA before or after that, and how much time, so that they dont clash with each other..


so for the long post....I went searching around and found answers for this stuff if i took it alone but not all together, thats with all the questions...

thanks for any help

i dont know what your shakes consist of but i've heard you want to avoid any calcium intake at the same time as the ZMA

Is the cee still terribly sour?