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| Posted by: Jack-iron Apr 12 2008, 04:55 AM |
| Alright iv'e read the dosing info, checked the reviews its good shit. Whats my mood gonna be like compared to a 1 ad/4ad cycle? Is it that close is it similar? I know its anti estrogen/pro i live with my girl is libido gona be any issue? Im trying to gain 15 pounds more onto my 5'6' 185 pound frame to hit the 200 without using steroids preferably, came a long way hitting that genetic peak, can this product along with pct, sleep, diet creatine, water, multi blah blah u klnow what i guys mean do it? Any users opinions would be "da bomb!" Live near the beach wanna roll around at a lean 200 lbs thsi summer u know. |
| Posted by: AdamGrossman Apr 12 2008, 11:14 AM |
| It really is a great PH...low sides and totally lean gains. Mood will be good if not great. 15 lbs may be overly optimistic but anything's possible, normally gains are in the 6-10 lb range. Libido, strength, muscle size, sense of "well being" will all increase. I'd recommend Havoc or Epithin E though, as the original Epistane has too much controversy surrounding it. I've ran it twice for 5 and 6 weeks, respectively. |
| Posted by: Jack-iron Apr 13 2008, 05:26 AM |
| Nice thanks grossman |
| Posted by: Hollidae Jul 28 2008, 06:13 PM |
| 6 weeks..damn |
| Posted by: Cdubya Jul 28 2008, 06:34 PM | ||
Damn what? Run it for any less and you're wasting your time.. |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Jul 28 2008, 06:58 PM |
| I agree it is a great steriod but 15 lbs may be a little to much to hope for but 10lbs is not out of the question |
| Posted by: On3musta Jul 29 2008, 02:16 PM |
| epistane all the way. i love this product. when i ran it back in january i personally put on 10 pounds and brought all my lifts up by 50 pounds easily. didnt have really any sides from it, my libido was actually the same if not better. and i did have a better sense of well being it was weird but i always felt good (maybe it was the way i looked after gettin ripped) aha but its a great product to look into for shore. you might not see explosive results from it but it does do a good job. if you want something a lil more powerful then for shore run some havoc but you'll prolly feel more sides on that such as libido so have a good pct for afterwards. id run the epi at 20/30/30/40 |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Jul 29 2008, 08:39 PM | ||
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| Posted by: On3musta Aug 1 2008, 02:21 PM |
| actually havoc seems to be a little more potent than epi, i mean look at any log on it and the sides seem to be more noticable as well for example libido... |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Aug 1 2008, 04:20 PM | ||
Do not know how to answer that they are both the exact same compound at the same dose |
| Posted by: rbrooks656 Aug 1 2008, 09:55 PM | ||||
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| Posted by: accent115 Aug 2 2008, 04:01 PM | ||
epistane is a steroid, friend. |
| Posted by: tae2 Aug 12 2008, 11:18 PM |
| Hey, new at the pro-hormone scene and looking for a good start. Want something with low side effects but will notice results! Currently 5'5' lean, fit 120lb. Very small and looking to gain weight!!! Any ideas on what to start? DOESNT HAVE TO BE A PRO-HORMONE!!! (Have been looking at EPI) |
| Posted by: accent115 Aug 12 2008, 11:38 PM | ||
food, read stickies, dont do steroids |
| Posted by: Thomas130483 Aug 13 2008, 10:13 PM |
| At 120 just eat and lift. Add protien and a creatine cycle after you get that down. It is probably best to stay away from any kind of steroids until you gain a lot naturally. Oh ya and PRO-HORMONE is just a friendly name for steroid. |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Aug 14 2008, 09:56 AM | ||
Epi is not a pro-hormone it is a oral designer steriod. Everyone is right eat a ton and clean lift some heavy stuff and get rest and you will grow. After a few years of that maybe look into the steriods. best of luck bro |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Aug 14 2008, 10:13 AM |
| Guys, at 120lbs he could've already reached his genetic limit. Surely steroids are the answer in this case.  |
| Posted by: PumpJunky Aug 27 2008, 05:03 AM |
| Hey guys. I want to do a cycle of Epistane, but am not 100% sure what I should run PCT. Can you help me iron out what I should run and dosage. I've done a little resarch, but it getting a little confusing, and everyone seems to have differing suggestions. I'm gonna take CEL E-stane at 20/30/30/40 AI Cycle Support thoughout Tribulus Terrestris? Should I take some Test booster? Milk Thistle Then for PCT im thinking... LG Sciences Formadrol Ergofarm 6-oxo Indole-3-Carbinol Horny Goat Weed Formadrol has a SERM complex, do I need to get some other type of SERM? Would what I've listed be good PC? Should I precycle anything? Maybe start the cycle support a week before the E-stane What should I go with for dosage? |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Aug 27 2008, 12:10 PM | ||
Looks good bro. It would be wise to preload the cycle support for 10 days before to let the hawthorne berry build up in you system for blood pressure control. Best of luck. |
| Posted by: On3musta Aug 27 2008, 03:34 PM |
| you should have a real SERM on hand just in case, seein as how the epi shouldnt give any gyno ya never know, your body can react differently but lookin good other than that. |
| Posted by: PumpJunky Aug 27 2008, 04:59 PM |
| Ok. Whats a good SERM? and where can you get them? Also, what dosage and for what number of weeks should I PCT for Epi? |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Aug 27 2008, 08:41 PM | ||
Cannot ask for sources all I can tell you is google is your friend. If you need to ask how long to do a pct for Epi your not ready to use it more research is needed |
| Posted by: PumpJunky Aug 27 2008, 08:56 PM | ||||
Oh, i didn't know sources weren't allowed, didnt read the stickys i guess. I've done a ton of research, but everyone seems to have a different method of PCT, and was just trying to get some quick advise. You don't have to reply if you're just gonna say, im not ready...? |
| Posted by: vanthehentai Aug 28 2008, 12:55 PM |
Get yourself some tamoxifen citrate or clomiphene citrate. Look for either someone in your are that sells juice, he'll have plenty and it's dirt cheap, cheaper than the legal stuff that doesn't do anything. Look for an online juicebar.... or look for a research chemical site, it's a site that'll sell these items and more under the guise of them not being intended for human use. Then again through that same guise you could be getting coolaid in a spray bottle. All the aforementioned methods have their risks. But so does using a steroid without the proper pct. Most guys I know who have not run proper pcts from a short prohormone cycle have been fine, but I know of a few, one case in particular, who developed gyno or lactated. I don't know about you but personally I'd rather not lactate.  |
| Posted by: MichiganHater Aug 28 2008, 03:54 PM |
| my take epi right is its leans u out with no sides. im on my 4th week now nothing unremarkable strength gains or anything but bf has went down and mood is decent. As of right now i honestly think rpm could do bout the same effect with my exp with both |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Aug 28 2008, 06:10 PM | ||
Epi has sides do not kid yourself. It will cause shutdown and will make you lose hair if your prone to it and will dry your joints out. It can cause pumps and loss of libido to name a few |
| Posted by: On3musta Aug 28 2008, 06:11 PM |
| but most people dont get them |
| Posted by: tazshane Aug 28 2008, 08:39 PM |
| Do most people take Nolva with havoc? |
| Posted by: MichiganHater Aug 29 2008, 12:47 AM | ||||
Correction drys the fuck out of ur joints |
| Posted by: MichiganHater Aug 29 2008, 12:50 AM | ||
most people taking epi/havoc r running mild to low pct in which nolva should be on hand but can be taken care of with an atd and estrogen blocker like inbhit e solid product by sns |
| Posted by: PumpJunky Aug 29 2008, 11:02 AM |
| Can the dry joint problem be helped by Glucosamin and Chondroitin, or any other joint supp? I'm trying to figure out which PH I'm going to run, and was leaning towards Epi, but Arthritis runs in my family. Would running a 4 week cycle on epi have any lasting effects or increase my susseptiblity to arthritis in older age? |
| Posted by: On3musta Aug 29 2008, 01:55 PM |
| i doubt it man, maybe if you really messed ur joints up it could but if you take those 2 compounds you just said plus load up on fish oil while on cycle and lots lots of water i think you should be fine. there are other joint supps to take, like cissus and applied nutritionals have a new joint product-suppose to be good |
| Posted by: workingatit46 Aug 29 2008, 03:29 PM | ||
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| Posted by: rbrooks656 Sep 8 2008, 12:30 PM |
| I'm about set to do my first PH cycle ever, and I decided on CynergE, mainly because it is the epistane/epithio compound with 750mg cissus, to keep the joints lubed. For like 8$ more than your standard epistane, you get a months supply of cissus "which is always expensive, unless you buy bulk form, which tastes like rat dick". |