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| Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 7 2008, 11:59 PM |
| I am reading about Phenibut and some people say it is relaxing and good for sleep while others claim it gets them a feeling of "high" and buzzed. What is the real effect of this stuff? |
| Posted by: opfor101 Apr 8 2008, 12:12 AM |
| you get reaally relaxed. i dunno if its really social kinda thing, cuz when i took it, i couldnt make good conversations, all i wanted to do was just stay home and listen to music. it also makes you feel a lil..... impaired for the lack of a better term. just w.e you do, dont smoke weed with it. trust me. also you dont really talk much while on phenibut. you just listen to others. |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Apr 8 2008, 01:25 AM |
| If you decide to try it, be prepared for serious withdrawl's. |
| Posted by: Regulator Apr 8 2008, 10:58 AM | ||
Ive had the exact opposite experience. I feel like it has some anti-anxiety affects. When i take it i seem to shoot the shit with stragers more, participate in conversatios i couldnt care less about etc. |
| Posted by: Roids Apr 8 2008, 11:10 AM |
| It has a some of all the noted effects. In smaller doses, it is calming and gives you a feeling of well-being, while also making you more sociable. But, in larger doses, it can be very intoxicating, causing what I call a slightly "retarded" feeling, where things seem to go into slow motion and you have a difficult time interacting and communicating with people. When you come down, you will feel like a train wreck. I would leave it alone. |
| Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 8 2008, 04:16 PM |
| how does phenibut compare to 5-HTP or tryptophan?? |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Apr 8 2008, 04:21 PM | ||
Phen is more acute intoxication. you feel "buzzed".... 5-htp will just slightly elevate your mood and at certain doses make you feel "foggy" and tired. there is no withdrawl that ive noticed from 5-htp. Plus the next day after using phen the nite before you feel "different"..... Passive, less aggressive, layed back, a tad more social. |
| Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 8 2008, 07:38 PM |
| so phenibut has a more noticeable effect then 5-htp/trypto.. Has anyone tried valerian? |
| Posted by: amino L Apr 8 2008, 10:36 PM |
| Phenibut seems to have different effects on different individuals. For me, it is mainly stimulating, with a sedating effect kicking in at the end, after many hours. I don't think Phenibut is liable for dependence unless you are a complete knucklehead. I think that it is a great nootropic at smaller doses, promoting creativity and ease of speech. At higher doses, it is a somewhat intoxicating stimulant, but a very safe one in my opinion because, if you take too much Phenibut, you will know, due to the nausea and dizziness that you will probably experience. |
| Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 8 2008, 11:45 PM |
| also, is it safe to combine phenibut with other sleep aids such as melatonin or ZMA? And the other way around, is it safe to stack other sleep supplements? |
| Posted by: amino L Apr 9 2008, 01:30 AM |
| I believe Phenibut should be safe with Melatonin or ZMA, but I have only combined it with Melatonin. Mild sleep aids like ZMA and Melatoninin can probably be combined safely. If they work at all is another matter. Do not, however, combine Phenibut with sedating anti-histamines, benzodiazepines, alcohol, etc. Use common sense. Get an understanding of how your body reacts to Phenibut and then you will naturally understand about interactions with other substances. |
| Posted by: cogno418 Apr 9 2008, 07:02 AM |
| Phenibut....ooohhhh shhhit... I went way overboard with Phenibut, i live in a stressful neighborhood so the shit made me relax for the evening and calm down after a training session...yes it does become "euphoric" at larger doses but not as euphoric as GHB for example . It extiguishes all anxiety and makes u more sociable fo sho ... BUT when u aint got no mo' well thats when the PAYBACK begins...We all know benzodiazepine (ativan, xanax, valium, etc..) withdrawal is HELL and this is exactly the same! Since i got a good mental i endured my withdrawal , only lasted 1 n half weeks but u can have panic attacks during that period becuz of way up increased anxiety....not to mention the rapid heartbeats and the short breath ... SUX.. stick to eatin sum weed-cookies bro |
| Posted by: cogno418 Apr 9 2008, 07:10 AM |
| Had to mention too ... i got a mini-seizure frum that shit (never had one before) when i mixed a higgggh-dose of Phenibut with sum aniracetam then had a nap...shhhit i woke up with my tongue bitten and with mini-electrical shocks runnin all over my body, like id hold a glass and SNAP in a second it would almost fall.... SUXXX Aniracetam sucks too btw, made my trainings much more difficult tiring quicker than normal... Bro stick with Glutamine, ZMA, Creatine, Aminos, ProHormones if u want, B-Vitamins, C vitamin, Proteins, Citrulline-Malate, NO shit, Phenibut is a bad excuse for having a GHB addiction , if u wanna go down the road to hell and to fuck up yer life well then go in the big door and get addicted to GHB its almost the same bullshit as Phenibut ... Gay shit. |
| Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 9 2008, 06:32 PM |
| I am interested in trying this, is it better to get the pills which total 22grams or the 30gram powder? How are you supposed to take the powder anyways, do you mix it with water? |
| Posted by: Cdubya Apr 9 2008, 07:01 PM |
| I would just get the pills..I heard it tastes like shit and doesn't mix very easily |
| Posted by: Kevin43403 Apr 9 2008, 08:07 PM |
| It mixes easily but does taste like ass. Just man up and drink it. I have had way worse. |
| Posted by: amino L Apr 11 2008, 01:57 AM |
| Anybody hell-bent on getting wasted can abuse anything, be it alcohol, inhalants like gasoline, pills, or GHB. If a person has addiction problems or has a history of such in his family, he may want to be careful with any substance, be it Phenibut or Benadryl, alcohol or Valium. Phenibut is much safer than GHB and its action is different. Comparing the two is not productive and will only make prohibitionists and the sensationalist media latch on and criminalize another useful substance. Phenibut should be understood as an occasional supplement, not a recreational drug. If you are considering buying Phenibut to get fucked up and high, just go and get drunk instead. It's cheaper and will work better. If, however, you feel you are intelligent enough to improve your life through chemical supplementation, Phenibut will allow you to use your brain and body more effectively. Apparently, cogno418 has an addiction problem and is not able to control himself. That does not mean that others will have the same problems with Phenibut. |
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| Posted by: cogno418 Apr 11 2008, 10:42 AM |
| Hey hey heeyy Amino-boy! Even if taken in small dose , if u takin it regularly u will have to suffer the withdrawal. IT has a long half-life (dats the time it takes to clear out of yer system) so if u take it once in 2-3 days regularly be it recreationnaly or not u will have to suffer the withdrawal. Yes i once was addicted to everythang possible! But now i aint to nothin so i know about all the withdrawals and i can tell u that benzodiazepine, phenibut withdrawals can be dangerous and are fukin hell especially when your at work... Im not sayin this is bad stuff, its non-toxic and can relax a stressed out mind and body, but all is in balance .... U go up = u go down . Gains are bigger when takin phenibut BTW.... take care yall |
| Posted by: cogno418 Apr 11 2008, 10:49 AM |
| And...it does taste like a granny's ass so this was my tecnique.. A glass of orange juice a rounded soup-spoon of Phenibut, Pinch yer nose ,drink it as fast as can be, take a bite out of an apple, de-pinch yer nose and enjoy.... U will get the same GABA sensation in 20-30 minutes as takin GABA and the phenibut sensation 2-3 hours later. If u take it in the late evening ull get up fuct up. This was actually enjoyable for me tho. Once a week is the best. |
| Posted by: amino L Apr 11 2008, 11:56 AM | ||
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| Posted by: cogno418 Apr 11 2008, 10:33 PM |
| Its a real blessing for u that u didnt have any withdrawals Amino-boy, thats the way it should be... Now im waiting for this batch of U4EA just to see if this is actually phenibut under another name, reports are quite similar. If uve tried sum please let me know about the difference or similarities. Thx have a great workout bro. |
| Posted by: cogno418 Apr 11 2008, 10:34 PM |
| Oh yeah and by the way... GO MONTREAL CANADIENS GOOOOOOO |
| Posted by: amino L Apr 14 2008, 12:19 AM | ||
I also noticed a few days ago that U4EA has similar reports to Phenibut. I wondered what was the "secret" ingredient. I did a quick PUBCHEM search and sure enough, it contains Phenibut. 4-Amino-3-Phenylbutyric acid is synonymous with Phenibut. Check it out: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pccompound&term=4-Amino-3-Phenylbutyric%20acid |
| Posted by: cogno418 Apr 14 2008, 09:05 PM |
| Thx for da info bro...So guess i'll take it EZ with it...! yeahh i did a lil research myself and under those scientific ingredient names lies common substance that we all know... It contains : Oxitriptan = 5HTP ! 2-aminoehtanesulfonic acid = Taurine ! 2-amino acetic acid = Glycine ! But the other ones oh shit i didnt find nothing on them...hope they aint toxic ! They are : Acetyl-3-Hydroxy-4-TriMethylAmmonioButanoate Cyclohexane-1-6-hexol Good Workout y'all |
| Posted by: amino L Apr 14 2008, 10:42 PM |
| No problem cogno. |
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| Posted by: Patrick5302 Apr 22 2008, 02:19 AM | ||||
<br>But my bottle I got yesterday had this ingredient omitted...already sent an email to BN and to Pure Life (the people who make U4EA). Saw that someone who reviewed the powdered version had a similar experience. Anyone know what's up with this?<br><br>Oh and btw this forum's formatting sucks if you are, like, not a retard that uses Internet Explorer... |