Muscle Milk help

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Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 7 2008, 06:32 PM
Hey all, I have some questions about Muscle Milk. I am reading the nutritional info and it is alot more fattening and carb filled then regular whey protein such as ON 100%. My question is, will this product make me real chunky, because I just want to stay thin and leaned out rather then beefing up alot. Also, is it better or worse then regular whey protein?

thanks

Posted by: accent115 Apr 7 2008, 06:35 PM
It will not make you chunky alone, however it could push your calories over the limit and cause you to gain fat. ON's whey would be better if your looking to stay thin. With that said, it's not going to have a profound impact, but if your cutting it would make a difference. You could drink it at night and whey PWO.

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Apr 7 2008, 07:56 PM
ON's 100% Whey and Muscle Milk are two entireley different products. 100% Whey is just that - whey protein. Whereas, Muscle Milk should be viewed as a pre/post workout drink or MRP.

So, depending on what your goals are for the product, it could go either way.

Posted by: Mk22 Apr 9 2008, 01:05 AM
if your a skinny guy then muscle milk is the shit. but if you put on weight fairly easy and/or your not trying to gain any weight its kinda pointless to take muscle milk. it has an ass load of calories. and is actually is NOT that great for post workout cuz it has casein protien in it which goes through your body slow so why would you take that post workout. generally people take it before bed as did i..when i was bulking. theres lots of other casein proteins that have low calories that are better for before bed and unless you know exactly how much whey is in ur protein you should always use 100 percent whey protein post workout.

plus that crap isnt cheap so why would you buy something fairly spendy thats not even made for your personal goals bro, doesnt sound right to me.

Posted by: Josh47933 Apr 9 2008, 01:16 AM
It's ideal for a bed time protein, as it's got good fats and slow digesting proteins. ON or any other whey product is great for post workout and upon waking in the morning. Other than those specific times, it's absorbed too fast.

Generally speaking you need different proteins for different times of day or situations. No one type of protein is best for everything, in other words. I use pure whey AND Muscle Milk, just at the appropriate times, as both have their place.

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Apr 9 2008, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Apr 9 2008, 01:16 AM)
Generally speaking you need different proteins for different times of day or situations. No one type of protein is best for everything, in other words. I use pure whey AND Muscle Milk, just at the appropriate times, as both have their place.

I use Muscle Milk as my sole source of supplemental protein. Well, I'm using up the rest of a tub of WPI and another protein blend mixed in just to be rid of them.

I workout first thing AM and drink 1.5 serv. (3 scoops) ~30 min. pre up through PWO (about 1/3 is left PWO).

Every once in a while, if I don't have anything in the house to eat (that fits the plan), I'll drink 1 serv. of Muscle Milk.

The stuff tastes fabulous. I have been cutting (not gaining as most thing Muscle Milk is for), and am 1/2-way to my goal of a total 40lbs. dropped. So, Muscle Milk can be used as much as one desires - as long as it fits in your nutritional goals.

But, if we are talking bang for the buck protein, it's tough to beat a 10lbs. bag whey.

Posted by: Josh47933 Apr 9 2008, 08:42 PM
QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Apr 9 2008, 09:04 AM)
QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Apr 9 2008, 01:16 AM)
Generally speaking you need different proteins for different times of day or situations.  No one type of protein is best for everything, in other words.  I use pure whey AND Muscle Milk, just at the appropriate times, as both have their place.

I use Muscle Milk as my sole source of supplemental protein. Well, I'm using up the rest of a tub of WPI and another protein blend mixed in just to be rid of them.

I workout first thing AM and drink 1.5 serv. (3 scoops) ~30 min. pre up through PWO (about 1/3 is left PWO).

Every once in a while, if I don't have anything in the house to eat (that fits the plan), I'll drink 1 serv. of Muscle Milk.

The stuff tastes fabulous. I have been cutting (not gaining as most thing Muscle Milk is for), and am 1/2-way to my goal of a total 40lbs. dropped. So, Muscle Milk can be used as much as one desires - as long as it fits in your nutritional goals.

But, if we are talking bang for the buck protein, it's tough to beat a 10lbs. bag whey.

True enough, but I'd still say whey is the best choice for post workout. MM wouldn't be great at that point as far as absorption speed is concerned.

Posted by: DownTown Apr 9 2008, 09:18 PM
Muscle milk is mainly caesin protien, isnt it? Well, still its of better use at bed time due to its slow release. And protien of any kind wont make you chunky, your diet will do that.

Posted by: cc-10 Apr 9 2008, 11:07 PM
shower in it and u'll grow

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Apr 10 2008, 05:25 AM
QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Apr 9 2008, 08:42 PM)
QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Apr 9 2008, 09:04 AM)
QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Apr 9 2008, 01:16 AM)
Generally speaking you need different proteins for different times of day or situations.  No one type of protein is best for everything, in other words.  I use pure whey AND Muscle Milk, just at the appropriate times, as both have their place.

I use Muscle Milk as my sole source of supplemental protein. Well, I'm using up the rest of a tub of WPI and another protein blend mixed in just to be rid of them.

I workout first thing AM and drink 1.5 serv. (3 scoops) ~30 min. pre up through PWO (about 1/3 is left PWO).

Every once in a while, if I don't have anything in the house to eat (that fits the plan), I'll drink 1 serv. of Muscle Milk.

The stuff tastes fabulous. I have been cutting (not gaining as most thing Muscle Milk is for), and am 1/2-way to my goal of a total 40lbs. dropped. So, Muscle Milk can be used as much as one desires - as long as it fits in your nutritional goals.

But, if we are talking bang for the buck protein, it's tough to beat a 10lbs. bag whey.

True enough, but I'd still say whey is the best choice for post workout. MM wouldn't be great at that point as far as absorption speed is concerned.

Yeah, I wouldn't just slam one PWO if I had standard whey available. That's why I drink mine pre, during, and post workout. I should have aminos available at all times up to, through, and after my workout for some time. This is what I'm hoping, anyway.

I can't gauge my success by gains in muscle mass, as I'm cutting right now. But, recovery seems great. I've been doing full-body workouts 3x per week with core workouts in between. I haven't felt burnt out yet.

Posted by: thomez Apr 10 2008, 09:38 PM
I love the taste of my Muscle Milk but I'm going to try out the ON 100% Casein with my next order, much less calories. You could always give that a try if you are worried about the Muscle Milk caloric content.

Posted by: vanthehentai Apr 10 2008, 10:11 PM
100% whey pre (1 scoop) and post workout (2 scoops). Throw some carbs in there too, don't worry they won't make you fat, your muscles need carbs whether you're bulking or not. Get some slow carbs before your workout (apple, orange, 2x slices whole grain bread). Have some fast (cheat) carbs after your workout (anything sugary, coke, sprite, gatorade, or fast carbs such as: potatoes, white bread, bagel, etc..).

That takes care of your work out nutrition, it's not complicated. Just takes some time to get a routine going.

Before bed take 100% casein (ON makes a good one). All you need is a scoop, two if you want to bulk I guess. For healthy fats have a handful of almonds, spoonful of natty peanut butter, spoonful of olive oil in your shake, avocado, whatever floats your boat.

If you want a meal replacement shake, mix some of your whey (1scoop) with some casein (1 scoop) the whey fills you and the casein stays in your stomach. Making your own whey casein blend is a lot cheaper than buying overpriced products such as muscle milk, probolic, tetrabolic, elite 12hr etc......

Posted by: James244273 Apr 11 2008, 09:42 AM
QUOTE (vanthehentai @ Apr 10 2008, 10:11 PM)
100% whey pre (1 scoop) and post workout (2 scoops). Throw some carbs in there too, don't worry they won't make you fat, your muscles need carbs whether you're bulking or not. Get some slow carbs before your workout (apple, orange, 2x slices whole grain bread). Have some fast (cheat) carbs after your workout (anything sugary, coke, sprite, gatorade, or fast carbs such as: potatoes, white bread, bagel, etc..).

That takes care of your work out nutrition, it's not complicated. Just takes some time to get a routine going.

Before bed take 100% casein (ON makes a good one). All you need is a scoop, two if you want to bulk I guess. For healthy fats have a handful of almonds, spoonful of natty peanut butter, spoonful of olive oil in your shake, avocado, whatever floats your boat.

If you want a meal replacement shake, mix some of your whey (1scoop) with some casein (1 scoop) the whey fills you and the casein stays in your stomach. Making your own whey casein blend is a lot cheaper than buying overpriced products such as muscle milk, probolic, tetrabolic, elite 12hr etc......

Agreed

Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 21 2008, 08:40 PM
so do you guys think muscle milk is an okay replacement for whey for just a month or two? I don't want to gain weight, not lifting either, just boxing/resistance bands and I am reading mixed reviews of people gaining, others cutting etc.. I only plan to drink it once a day so whadya guys think?

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Posted by: Alla103277 Apr 21 2008, 08:52 PM
I wanna eat your children

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Apr 22 2008, 05:24 AM
QUOTE (Alla103277 @ Apr 21 2008, 08:40 PM)
so do you guys think muscle milk is an okay replacement for whey for just a month or two? I don't want to gain weight, not lifting either, just boxing/resistance bands and I am reading mixed reviews of people gaining, others cutting etc.. I only plan to drink it once a day so whadya guys think?

It's fine. Just adjust your diet for the extra calories.