Politics of Professors has little effect

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Posted by: azfittrainer Apr 7 2008, 12:09 PM
The political views of Academics do not affect the views of college students. Sorry Roids, your theory of the left leaning professors tilting the views of college kids is wrong.



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Posted by: Roids Apr 7 2008, 02:37 PM
I didn't say that the actually have a profound impact on all students. However, they do discourage independent thinking and attempt to indoctrinate the students. Look at JW! It worked on him!

Posted by: Bryan60275 Apr 7 2008, 04:14 PM
probably a study written by a liberal professor. dry.gif

Posted by: azfittrainer Apr 7 2008, 05:00 PM
QUOTE (Bryan60275 @ Apr 7 2008, 04:14 PM)
probably a study written by a liberal professor. dry.gif

Conspiracy? I think not ph34r.gif

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 7 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 7 2008, 02:37 PM)
Look at JW!  It worked on him!

LoL...I graduated from a state school, gimme a break! laugh.gif

Folks who have higher levels of education tend to lean left. Coincidence? IDK. ph34r.gif

Posted by: Roids Apr 7 2008, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 7 2008, 07:46 PM)
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 7 2008, 02:37 PM)
Look at JW!  It worked on him!

LoL...I graduated from a state school, gimme a break! laugh.gif

Folks who have higher levels of education tend to lean left. Coincidence? IDK. ph34r.gif

You're wrong here dub. Folks in academia tend to lean left. You're painting with too broad of a brush. You're leaving out millions of professionals with advanced degrees who, rather than teach, actually have real jobs.


Only about 34% of democratic voters actually even have colelge degrees.

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 7 2008, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 7 2008, 09:00 PM)
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 7 2008, 07:46 PM)
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 7 2008, 02:37 PM)
Look at JW!  It worked on him!

LoL...I graduated from a state school, gimme a break! laugh.gif

Folks who have higher levels of education tend to lean left. Coincidence? IDK. ph34r.gif

You're wrong here dub. Folks in academia tend to lean left. You're painting with too broad of a brush. You're leaving out millions of professionals with advanced degrees who, rather than teach, actually have real jobs.


Only about 34% of democratic voters actually even have colelge degrees.

colelge degrees huh? which way do you lean....back? tongue.gif

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 7 2008, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 7 2008, 08:46 PM)
Folks who have higher levels of education tend to lean left.

...and indeed, the statistics back up my claim.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/US/H/00/epolls.0.html

Posted by: Bryan60275 Apr 7 2008, 11:04 PM
technically what your statistics really say is "A higher percentage of exit poll participants with advanced degrees vote democrat" and not the general population.

besides, there's a plethora of other things you can infer from that chart, which may not necessarily be true.

-Jews and African-Americans are more single-minded in their voting (87% and 89%)

-Democrats have a higher percentage of un/less educated people (64% and 55%)

-Democrats are more likely to vote with what their Union tells them (68%)

-Democrats have a higher percentage of people who did not finish college (51%)

Yada yada yada.

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 7 2008, 11:08 PM
QUOTE (Bryan60275 @ Apr 7 2008, 11:04 PM)
technically what your statistics really say is "A higher percentage of exit poll participants with advanced degrees vote democrat" and not the general population.

besides, there's a plethora of other things you can infer from that chart, which may not necessarily be true.

-Jews and African-Americans are more single-minded in their voting (87% and 89%)

-Democrats have a higher percentage of un/less educated people (64% and 55%)

-Democrats are more likely to vote with what their Union tells them (68%)

-Democrats have a higher percentage of people who did not finish college (51%)

Yada yada yada.

Touche sir. dry.gif

Posted by: TAC Apr 8 2008, 06:00 AM
QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 12:09 PM)
The political views of Academics do not affect the views of college students. Sorry Roids, your theory of the left leaning professors tilting the views of college kids is wrong.



http://spotlight.encarta.msn.com/Features/encnet_Departments_eLearning_default_article_ProfessorPolitics.html?GT1=27001

Bunkum!

As Im sure roids will point out, everybody knows that there is a left wing conspiracy to infiltrate radical liberal views into education and the media thus weakening America so that a coalition of Sh'iite Muslims and Mexicans immigrants can take over and force everyone to worship the anti-Christ, Hillary Clinton 666....

rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Tswole Apr 8 2008, 08:12 AM
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Posted by: Regulator Apr 8 2008, 08:24 AM
I had a professor tell me that the US is on a slant and that all the nuts roll to the west coast. Didnt you make a move recently hoops? laugh.gif

Posted by: Bryan60275 Apr 8 2008, 08:53 AM
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 7 2008, 11:08 PM)
QUOTE (Bryan60275 @ Apr 7 2008, 11:04 PM)
technically what your statistics really say is "A higher percentage of exit poll participants with advanced degrees vote democrat" and not the general population.

besides, there's a plethora of other things you can infer from that chart, which may not necessarily be true.

-Jews and African-Americans are more single-minded in their voting (87% and 89%)

-Democrats have a higher percentage of un/less educated people (64% and 55%)

-Democrats are more likely to vote with what their Union tells them (68%)

-Democrats have a higher percentage of people who did not finish college (51%)

Yada yada yada.

Touche sir. dry.gif

lol, no hard feelings tongue.gif

Posted by: Roids Apr 8 2008, 08:55 AM
QUOTE (TAC @ Apr 8 2008, 05:00 AM)
QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 12:09 PM)
The political views of Academics do not affect the views of college students. Sorry Roids, your theory of the left leaning professors tilting the views of college kids is wrong.



http://spotlight.encarta.msn.com/Features/encnet_Departments_eLearning_default_article_ProfessorPolitics.html?GT1=27001

Bunkum!

As Im sure roids will point out, everybody knows that there is a left wing conspiracy to infiltrate radical liberal views into education and the media thus weakening America so that a coalition of Sh'iite Muslims and Mexicans immigrants can take over and force everyone to worship the anti-Christ, Hillary Clinton 666....

rolleyes.gif

Close, but it's Obama they will force us to worship since he's the muslim while hillary is just a simple harmless communist. ALl we have to choose from now, is a muslim, a marxist, and a traitor turn-coat.

I'll take the marxist unfortunately as the lesser of three evils.

Posted by: Roids Apr 8 2008, 08:56 AM
QUOTE (Regulator @ Apr 8 2008, 07:24 AM)
I had a professor tell me that the US is on a slant and that all the nuts roll to the west coast.  Didnt you make a move recently hoops? laugh.gif

ROFLMFAO!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

This proff must be one of the good ones. Maybe there's hope afterall!

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 8 2008, 09:20 AM
It's true, it's all true. I was never very forward-thinking, left-leaning, progressive, etc till I went to college and started watching MSNBC. Now, all I can think of is "Obama, Obama, Obama" I feel like Zoolander, about to off the Malaysian Prime Minister. tongue.gif

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Posted by: Regulator Apr 8 2008, 09:58 AM
In all honestly it has to have SOME effect. Ive never had a prof that is more right wing than "moderate". What bothers me is all the cuts a prof will take at the right wing in classes that have nothing to do with poly sci/law. Yes, i know GW Bush fucked up, but i dont need my math teacher telling me that.

Posted by: Roids Apr 8 2008, 10:17 AM
It seems like most profs either go from left leaning (i.e. JDub) to far left cooks (i.e. supertzar), with more on the latter end. But someone who is right leaning would have very little chance of making it in academia (i.e. group think).

Posted by: azfittrainer Apr 8 2008, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 8 2008, 10:17 AM)
It seems like most profs either go from left leaning (i.e. JDub) to far left cooks (i.e. supertzar), with more on the latter end. But someone who is right leaning would have very little chance of making it in academia (i.e. group think).

There is no evidence to support that theory.

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 8 2008, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 8 2008, 10:17 AM)
It seems like most profs either go from left leaning (i.e. JDub) to far left cooks (i.e. supertzar), with more on the latter end. But someone who is right leaning would have very little chance of making it in academia (i.e. group think).

While I agree that most people with higher levels of education and/or people who make a living in higher education tend to lean left, I'd disagree with the notion that right-leaning folks wouldn't have a "chance of making it" in academia.

The implication there is that academic institutions discriminate against qualified professors who don't hold liberal political views. It's an assertion that is (unless you can enlighten me) unsubstantiated.

Posted by: Roids Apr 9 2008, 09:21 AM
I'd have to dig a bit for the specific details. But, I do know of several cases of prestigious universidads where leftist profs have dealt out failing grades for writting papers that go against the prof's leftest views. I've also heard it is almost impossible to get a grant at some of the top institutions to do honest/unbiased research on man made global warming.

I know this is simple anecdotal stuff. I might dig later on for some specifics.

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 9 2008, 09:27 AM
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 9 2008, 09:21 AM)
I'd have to dig a bit for the specific details. But, I do know of several cases of prestigious universidads where leftist profs have dealt out failing grades for writting papers that go against the prof's leftest views. I've also heard it is almost impossible to get a grant at some of the top institutions to do honest/unbiased research on man made global warming.

I know this is simple anecdotal stuff. I might dig later on for some specifics.

Grading papers differently based on political view and allocating public funding for climate change research are another matter, although still nothing more than alleged. The claim you made earlier was that qualified right-leaning professors don't have the same "chance to make it" at the university level.

Posted by: Roids Apr 9 2008, 10:57 AM
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 9 2008, 08:27 AM)
The claim you made earlier was that qualified right-leaning professors don't have the same "chance to make it" at the university level.

Werd and there is ample reason to believe that. Just talk to your local professor. wink.gif

Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 9 2008, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 9 2008, 10:57 AM)
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 9 2008, 08:27 AM)
The claim you made earlier was that qualified right-leaning professors don't have the same "chance to make it" at the university level.

Werd and there is ample reason to believe that. Just talk to your local professor. wink.gif

Oh, OK. Case closed. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Roids Apr 9 2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 9 2008, 05:46 PM)
QUOTE (Roids @ Apr 9 2008, 10:57 AM)
QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 9 2008, 08:27 AM)
The claim you made earlier was that qualified right-leaning professors don't have the same "chance to make it" at the university level.

Werd and there is ample reason to believe that. Just talk to your local professor. wink.gif

Oh, OK. Case closed. rolleyes.gif

Ok, I'm glad you understand. wink.gif