| QUOTE (SFW_SFW @ Apr 6 2008, 10:45 PM) |
| wow i thought that was unique to my gym! haha is ur 50 yr old man skinny too? |
Raw Squatting |
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| Posted by: willpiazza31 Mar 29 2008, 06:55 PM |
| I thought this was an interesting article. http://www.elitefts.com/documents/raw_squatting.htm |
| Posted by: unstable Mar 30 2008, 11:38 AM |
| Matt Rhoads is a cool son of a bitch, great guy IMHO...and good article. Personally when I train on squat days, I wear briefs and a belt. The briefs don't give me the kind of support that a full suit does, but it does give me a little "POP" out of the hole. It's my opinion that this is helpful at least psychologically when it comes to handling bigger weights. Most powerlifting equipment is going to help you the most at your weakest point, that's their entire purpose...right? So the basic idea is (for example) that you might not be able to take 500 lbs. raw on your back, hit the hole and make it all the way back up. However; you might be able to complete a 500 lbs. squat from just past the hole on the way back up. By wearing the briefs, you might be able to complete a lift that you couldn't otherwise handle. Soooo. Say you compete equipped but you train raw. You can't handle 500 from top to bottom and back up so you have to deal with lesser weights...say 450ish. Well that 450 lbs. is doing nothing for the top end of your lift, it's just working the bottom half (at the hole). It comes to be meet day and maybe in a tight suit, briefs and wraps you're more like a 600 lbs. squatter but the most you've handle in training is around 450. Just something to think about...this is why equipped lifting pisses alot of people off, but alot of other people find it enjoyable because buying a piece of gear can help their lifts and keep things interesting when they don't feel they are progressing fast enough. |
| Posted by: JW32Hoops Mar 30 2008, 03:52 PM |
| There's a dude in my gym, probably about 50 years old or so...and he does 1/4 squats with like 600 lbs. Gets all psyched up and grunts on each rep, wears knee wraps, etc...but he's only moving the bar a few inches down and back up. What's up with that? |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Mar 30 2008, 04:27 PM | ||
Gay. That's what it's called. |
| Posted by: Arnoldclone Apr 2 2008, 06:50 PM | ||
We all have those. I seriously wanna punch him in his face. |
| Posted by: yeashescool Apr 4 2008, 12:39 PM |
| is there any benefit to do those partial reps with heavier weight? |
| Posted by: thomez Apr 4 2008, 01:09 PM | ||
I would say you might as well use the leg press at that point and put some real weight on there. |
| Posted by: goodskie Apr 4 2008, 02:14 PM | ||
the noobiest of noobs might think you're jacked. |
| Posted by: yeashescool Apr 4 2008, 08:52 PM | ||||
sweet thats what i was goin for |
| Posted by: SFW_SFW Apr 6 2008, 10:45 PM |
| wow i thought that was unique to my gym! haha is ur 50 yr old man skinny too? |
| Posted by: JW32Hoops Apr 6 2008, 11:19 PM | ||
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| Posted by: thomez Apr 9 2008, 09:18 PM | ||
I take back what I said before. We did rack presses yesterday, probably press the weight 6 or 8 inches and then hold it at the top, put it back down on the pins, and repeat. This was a ton of work on core strength just to keep the weight balanced and keep your back tight while pressing it to the top of the squat position. It also gives you a feeling of what that kind of weight feels like on your shoulders so that your normal squat weight feels much lighter. My buddy says that doing this every once in a while is good work for your core and it also preps you for a powerlifting event where you have to unrack and hold the weight, squat, then hold it again. So, in summary, I think partial reps with higher weight can be beneficial in this way. |
| Posted by: Roids Apr 11 2008, 10:01 AM |
| In summary, I think that is bullshit. I did rack presses (squat) for months and all I ever got was a sore back. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Apr 11 2008, 10:36 AM |
| Doing high partial reps is a great way to ramp up the CNS and prepare for heavier weights going full range. Even doing unrack and holds with weights I couldn't even do partial reps helped make the weights I could do feel lighter when walking them out. That is a great aid. But don't make it a band aid and do them all the time because if you do then when you rip of that band aid it will hurt like hell. |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Apr 11 2008, 10:54 AM |
| I like to load up the bar with like 600lbs and just stare at it and curse at it. Gets me pumped up. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Apr 11 2008, 11:01 AM | ||
Will, is this you then? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0dd_JKNUY Actually kind of looks like azfit.  |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 Apr 11 2008, 11:03 AM |
| I don't know. I can't watch youtube at work. |
| Posted by: Roids Apr 11 2008, 11:11 AM |
| Sometimes I like to load the bar up with 800-900lbs, get under it in starting position and scream as if I were actually lifting it. Then I'll break it back down. The loading and unloading of all the plates gets me mentally prepared for what it'll feel like to load the bar up with all that weight once I'm strong enough to squat it. It's great for your CNS. |
| Posted by: Jack-iron Apr 13 2008, 06:15 AM |
| Do u have to go parrallell for it to count like not in a meet or anything but like in general. Cause I go down as far as I can with say 315lbs, but its not quite parrallell its as far as I can till my balls feel like somethings gonna tear. I can throw on there 225 and do it all the way but i feel like im getting bigger going as far as possible with 315. My legs are def getting bigger and I go knees to chest on leg press so I guess that helps. Arnold said its not about ego its about the look, but my question is is not going down all the way seen as pussying out, should a lighter load be used? Seems like the partials and I mean like 80-85 percent of the movemenet not fuckin 1/4 bulk better. Id like to see some response on this cause like it seems like no one really knows...opinions...facts....articles...???? |
| Posted by: unstable Apr 14 2008, 07:20 PM | ||
widen your stance and duck your toes out some. in general you should squat to parallel IMO, olympic lifters squat A2G or ass to grass. |