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> Time for Hoops to eff around with PH's!, Epistane/Methoxy TST stack
Posted: Mar 27 2008, 09:28 PM
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Alright, so here's what I've got:

Epistane
M-Drol
Methoxy TST

I'd like to stack the Epistane and Methoxy TST (thanks for the idea Tree33) do my PCT, see how I liked it, then move on to the hard stuff, namely the M-Drol.

For supports I've got Milk Thistle and that's pretty much it. I've got some random stuff laying around (Retain by AX and Fenugreek) that I really have no idea what to do with, so if those are decent for on-cycle or PCT, lemme know and maybe I'll throw em in there.

For PCT, I've got Nolva and was thinking about taking Leviathan instead of Tribulus, but maybe both...lemme know what you think. Will also pick up some Taurine, but is that better for on-cycle or PCT?

I'm a rookie when it comes to the PH's, so advices are appreciated.

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Posted: Mar 27 2008, 09:52 PM
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I'd hold off on the trib until PCT, the taurine i'd use on cycle.

I would probably just hold off on the LR and use the trib. If you're going to be eating enough carbs and calories to induce weight gain while on your stack, you might be just wasting the LR...

My 2 cents.


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Posted: Mar 27 2008, 09:55 PM
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actually, the taurine is commonly used for back pumps, but since Epi is so mild, i doubt that you will get any. I might just wait and see how you feel first and then use it with the M drol down the road.

You might want to pick up some hawthorn berry, or you could just use AI's On Cycle.

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Posted: Mar 27 2008, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (OmniRed @ Mar 27 2008, 09:52 PM)
I'd hold off on the trib until PCT, the taurine i'd use on cycle.

I would probably just hold off on the LR and use the trib. If you're going to be eating enough carbs and calories to induce weight gain while on your stack, you might be just wasting the LR...

My 2 cents.

By "LR" do you mean Leviathan Reloaded? I've just got a bottle of the original.

I was gonna use it for PCT cuz it's got Tribulus in it already...figured I'd just take that rather than buy new Trib. I don't mind losing some lbs during PCT, as long as I keep some from the cycle. I've been hovering at 250 for a while now, which I'm comfortable with, just wanna improve the aesthetics some.

Omni, have you taken Epistane or Methoxy TST?

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Posted: Mar 27 2008, 10:00 PM
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Yeha i meant reloaded, but the premise is the same.

You can get a bottle of Now Foods Trib for like 9 dollars. Still more cost efficient imho.

I've taken Epi, Havoc, Mdrol.

Ill be bridging tren xtreme and havoc soon.

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Posted: Mar 27 2008, 11:26 PM
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Just checked my stash and it turns out I've already got like 1/3 of a bottle of Tribulus...score!

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Posted: Mar 28 2008, 07:14 AM
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trib has been disproven as a test booster. 6 Bromo products work better.

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Posted: Mar 29 2008, 12:39 AM
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Alright...I might start this tomorrow.

Here's the info:

27yrs old, 6' 7'', 250lbs...somewhere between 15-19%BF guesstimate.

Gonna keep it simple on both sides...staying 10-30mg Epistane per day and 1-3 caps Methoxy TST per day for 4 weeks or so, maybe 5 if it's going really well.

Milk Thistle is on hand. Will try to pick up Taurine this weekend.

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If you're going to use milk thistle on cycle, one should start it a week before the cycle starts because it takes a while for it to kick in. I don't know what you meant by having it "on hand"...were you going to wait to see if a problem developed? if so, by then, it's too late...

and they say epistane is very mild, but a 17aa steroid is a 17aa steroid, and it is going to put stress on the liver
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QUOTE (bubbachew @ Mar 29 2008, 11:28 AM)
I don't know what you meant by having it "on hand"...were you going to wait to see if a problem developed?

Just meant I've got it already...was going to start it along with the Epi/Methoxy. I don't feel like waiting another week to start the cycle. Would it be a terrible idea to just start the Milk Thistle at the same time as the cycle? Gonna start low doses of Epi and increase gradually. Was gonna cut out booze too, lol.

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OK, so I already lifted today and tomorrow's a scheduled off day, so I might as well start on Monday...will give me a couple days to get some Milk Thistle in, pre-cycle.

Tentative plans...(open to suggestion)

Week 1: 2 pills/day
Week 2: 2 pills/day
Week 3: 3 pills/day
Week 4: 3 pills/day
Week 5: 2 pills/day

That goes for Epistane and Methoxy TST...gonna dose em both the same way. If I'm not having fun with it, I might cut it down to a 4 week cycle, will play it by ear.

I've got nolva for PCT, but the dropper isn't marked, so I'm not sure what the dosage is. Any suggestions for dosing? Otherwise, I'm just gonna take one squirt under the tongue everyday for a month, lol.


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QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Mar 29 2008, 07:52 PM)
OK, so I already lifted today and tomorrow's a scheduled off day, so I might as well start on Monday...will give me a couple days to get some Milk Thistle in, pre-cycle.

Tentative plans...(open to suggestion)

Week 1: 2 pills/day
Week 2: 2 pills/day
Week 3: 3 pills/day
Week 4: 3 pills/day
Week 5: 2 pills/day

That goes for Epistane and Methoxy TST...gonna dose em both the same way. If I'm not having fun with it, I might cut it down to a 4 week cycle, will play it by ear.

I've got nolva for PCT, but the dropper isn't marked, so I'm not sure what the dosage is. Any suggestions for dosing? Otherwise, I'm just gonna take one squirt under the tongue everyday for a month, lol.

Yeah J-dub I have the same dropper I'm guessing, it sucks. A full dropper of mine is 25mg so I just have to go from there with sort of an educated guess..
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QUOTE (Cdubya @ Mar 29 2008, 08:09 PM)
Yeah J-dub I have the same dropper I'm guessing

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QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Mar 29 2008, 12:14 PM)
QUOTE (bubbachew @ Mar 29 2008, 11:28 AM)
I don't know what you meant by having it "on hand"...were you going to wait to see if a problem developed?

Just meant I've got it already...was going to start it along with the Epi/Methoxy. I don't feel like waiting another week to start the cycle. Would it be a terrible idea to just start the Milk Thistle at the same time as the cycle? Gonna start low doses of Epi and increase gradually. Was gonna cut out booze too, lol.

it's just recommended that one starts milk thistle a week before the cycle starts...NAC is a good supporting supplement for the liver too...it kicks in right away


I, myself, take 1gram of milk thistle every day year-round.


Good luck on your cycle though...and are you getting bloody work done
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QUOTE (bubbachew @ Mar 29 2008, 08:49 PM)
bloody work

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Wasn't planning to do bloodwork. Thanks for the advices bubba. Gonna wind up getting 2-3 days of Milk Thistle in before I start my cycle.

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QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Mar 29 2008, 08:53 PM)
QUOTE (bubbachew @ Mar 29 2008, 08:49 PM)
bloody work

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Wasn't planning to do bloodwork. Thanks for the advices bubba. Gonna wind up getting 2-3 days of Milk Thistle in before I start my cycle.

haha, yeah, realized i typed "bloody work" after i had posted. ah well


Keep us posted on the results on your cycle. good luck
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Goin for it tomorrow...gonna just take 1 cap of each around lunch time. Lifting back/biceps around 5:30pm.

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