my idea, was to get a stack for mood, anxiolytic, nootrophic, and adaptogen.

if i take 1 cap 2-3 times a day would these amt. produce good results
150 mg. Bacopa Monieri
200 mg. Phenibut
250-300 mg. of Rhodiola Rosea

also i would think inosine ethyl ester,which has been documented as a benzodiazapene mimicker,and tryptophan ethyl ester would round out that capsule well,

i had never heard of those, where do you find those?

would the tryptophan make me sleepy?

I'm not a fan of your stack, sir.

For one, Bacopa Monieri is complete bunk. Secondly, constantly using phenibut will result in tolerance, and using too much may result in a hangover. Thirdly, Rhodiola requires a massive front-load along with constant supplementation many months for any positive effects - and the effects are minimal.

There are MUCH BETTER things out there.

Have you looked into lemon balm extract, SAM-e, 5-HT, St. Johns Wort, phosphatidylcholine/serine, l-theanine? Even Chrysin has been shown to be an effective anxiolytic (even comparable to prescription drugs [high doses required]).

If you are limiting your stack to bulk 1fast400 pounders, here is a much better stack for your purposes:

Alpha-GPC Powder 50% Choline
Aniracetam / oxiracetam
Idebenone Powder
L-Theanine Powder
Phosphatidyl serine 50%

just in response to Diesel, i have taken Bacopa and noticed good results. i have done proper research, and if you read the dosing protocol at most i would be taking 750 mg. of phenibut in a day, well below dosages that cause significant hangovers and i know the part on tolerance is just something that you gotta deal with it for phenibut.

rhodiola is for the adaptogenic properties, so i was gonna take that consistently so i should notice results especially from the good reports ive heard. and you suggest against rhodiola, but for SJW which takes on the fast side 1-2 months to maybe notice effects, and even then not very pronounced (know from experience).

Now i had considered phosphatidyl choline/serine, theanine, ibedenone, and maybe a-gpc but decided to try a different time, the others i hadnt really considered. just for in the future, i was just asking for some help and opinions. i appreciate the information, but i dont appreciate the rudeness. just cuz my post count is low does not mean that i am not informed.

Relax, I'm simply not a fan of your stack. No rudeness intended. There are really no benefits from supplementing with phenibut every day. I could go into the science of it, but I'd rather not unless you have a firm basis in N.T. pharmacology.

If you believe that Rhodiola, and Bacopa, are truely helping you, then I say go for it. But empirically, neither of those things have shown many positive benefits. A lot of people use them, but then again, a lot of people use crap every day against all the evidence in the world. If I can't convince you, then I won't try.

Nevertheless, as for SJW, you must first realize that ALL serotonergic drugs take <4+ weeks to begin to work. This includes antidepressants that work through the SSRI system. SJW has some good empiracle evidence in its favor. A LOT of clinicians in the US are beginning to prescribe it instead of other drugs with higher theraputic indexes. Clinicians in the EU have prescribed it for over a decade.

In any case, if you want a GABAnergic drug without tolerance, or possible hangover, look into L-Theanine. The phenibut is just not necessary (especially e.d. or e.o.d.).

alright, so basically just drop the phenibut from this stack and if anything just take it sporadically when needed? and instead possibly include theanine in the 200-250 mg. range?

as far as SJW goes, maybe i just was underdosing it. But, what should i look for in dosing and quality-wise?

and sorry bout the misunderstanding earlier

i really appreciate those studies, im gonna try those here in the near future. now, as far as GABAergic goes what timeline should i use on a cycle like month on/month off or could i go longer? and a-gpc i know is the gold standard of choline, but expensive so what are some other good sources of supplemental choline?

i appreciate the help

hey Cody,its just that phenibut gets old,after a while,if you just use it on the weekends or for enhancing the effects of some other party-ables,it'll work,it just kind of blurs everything,and wears out your gaba receptors,i would cycle it with some other stuff,in other words,YOUR stack,then a different stack on and off,kratom is a good one,try some of the psychotropic herbs out there too..wild cactus,those sites have some really trippy herbs they sell the leaves of,and you have to cut them up yourself.try googling"psychotropic herbs"and check out the websites that pop up.As for Nootropics,how about anti-aging websites.overseas they ship them,fully legal,alot of different ones,epanutin,gabob,picamilon,stablon,gamalate B6,also try U4EA on this site,EDEN is a good product as well,you can form alot of different stacks online that are legal and pretty cool..pramaracitem very cool nooptropic..you get the idea..

lol. its hard to tell im on epanutin,gabob,gamalate and stablon isnt it?

Well i dont know how much time uve been takin phenibut every day (oooh shit)
but i wish u a nice withdrawal when u stop :
possibly a panic attack,
palpitations,
anxiety,
short breath...
Phenibut once a week tops bro no more. I KNOW IT !!!

the withdrawal lasted for me 2 weeks.
good luck ull get over that shit.

yeah i agree with homebot above,
Kratom can relax u so u dont do phenibut no more than once a week.
That herb really works but dont forget its a opium-like substance so
that too if u take it every day...
ull have a nice liquid-crap withdrawal...