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Movin Weights by the pound

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 I don't see how 40 min per week is enough time under the weights... you could probly see alot better gains with a dif routine high intensity or not, still sounds like your cutting yourself short to me whats a typical routine look like for you?
Current as of 03/08 Weight: 219lbs Height: 6'1'' Bi's: 18'' Quads: 26'' Calves: 15.5'' Waist: 35''
PR's: Bench: 335x1 Deads: 405x3 Milit. DB Press: 100's x6 Squat: 315x5 Incline: 275x2
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Mar 17 2008, 09:48 AM) | | QUOTE (yeashescool @ Mar 15 2008, 08:58 PM) | | QUOTE (Younggunz @ Mar 15 2008, 08:51 PM) | | QUOTE (Roids @ Mar 15 2008, 12:04 PM) | | Pretty jack'd. How much do you whey? |
I only use whey protein with breakfast and post workouts. I currently hit the weights once every 3-4 days for about 15 minutes, so I use about 30 grams of whey a day aside from lifting days. On those days, I use about 90 grams. As you can tell, I'm a huge Heavy Duty advocate. |
am i reading this right....... u only hit the weights for 15mins? |
If you're lifting balls to the wall 15-20 minutes is all you need.
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so what would a typical routine besides the one u already mentioned look like?
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 EDIT: meant to quote brendilinger but yeah 40 min per week, not per session... big difference i agree you don't need more than an hour... i just choose that route because i like hitting isolation lifts but still 15-20min aint even enough time to get warmed up... even if you were doin full body thats not enough time to hit compounds to cover all bodyparts and i know AZFIT is gonna come in and mention something about olympic lifts... but the guy is talkin about competing in bbing 5'11'' and 180lbs is decent... but my point is he could prob be alot bigger with a better routine
Current as of 03/08 Weight: 219lbs Height: 6'1'' Bi's: 18'' Quads: 26'' Calves: 15.5'' Waist: 35''
PR's: Bench: 335x1 Deads: 405x3 Milit. DB Press: 100's x6 Squat: 315x5 Incline: 275x2
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 | QUOTE (yeashescool @ Mar 17 2008, 04:00 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Mar 17 2008, 09:48 AM) | | QUOTE (yeashescool @ Mar 15 2008, 08:58 PM) | | QUOTE (Younggunz @ Mar 15 2008, 08:51 PM) | | QUOTE (Roids @ Mar 15 2008, 12:04 PM) | | Pretty jack'd. How much do you whey? |
I only use whey protein with breakfast and post workouts. I currently hit the weights once every 3-4 days for about 15 minutes, so I use about 30 grams of whey a day aside from lifting days. On those days, I use about 90 grams. As you can tell, I'm a huge Heavy Duty advocate. |
am i reading this right....... u only hit the weights for 15mins? |
If you're lifting balls to the wall 15-20 minutes is all you need.
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so what would a typical routine besides the one u already mentioned look like? |
Look up crossfit.com. Try one of their workouts of the day, see what you think.
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Mar 17 2008, 11:14 PM) | | QUOTE (MoVin_Weight @ Mar 17 2008, 07:51 PM) | EDIT: meant to quote brendilinger
but yeah 40 min per week, not per session... big difference
i agree you don't need more than an hour... i just choose that route because i like hitting isolation lifts
but still 15-20min aint even enough time to get warmed up... even if you were doin full body thats not enough time to hit compounds to cover all bodyparts
and i know AZFIT is gonna come in and mention something about olympic lifts... but the guy is talkin about competing in bbing
5'11'' and 180lbs is decent... but my point is he could prob be alot bigger with a better routine |
If you cut out all the time most people spend between sets, going to get a drink, resting, etc, the amount of time you're actually lifting is only 15-20 minutes. If you cut out all the rest 20 minutes might be all you need.
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I don't know why i'm even trying to argue this poing... 20 min twice per week is not enough time to maximize hypertrophy no matter what intensity your working at rest time is important when you training for hypertrophy, if your hitting set after set with 30 second rest intervals, your not going to have the gas to bang out heavy reps if the dude wants any chance at competing then he needs to incorporate a traditional bodybuilding routine... not this goofy 20 min HIT bullshit
Current as of 03/08 Weight: 219lbs Height: 6'1'' Bi's: 18'' Quads: 26'' Calves: 15.5'' Waist: 35''
PR's: Bench: 335x1 Deads: 405x3 Milit. DB Press: 100's x6 Squat: 315x5 Incline: 275x2
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 | QUOTE (MoVin_Weight @ Mar 18 2008, 03:44 AM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Mar 17 2008, 11:14 PM) | | QUOTE (MoVin_Weight @ Mar 17 2008, 07:51 PM) | EDIT: meant to quote brendilinger
but yeah 40 min per week, not per session... big difference
i agree you don't need more than an hour... i just choose that route because i like hitting isolation lifts
but still 15-20min aint even enough time to get warmed up... even if you were doin full body thats not enough time to hit compounds to cover all bodyparts
and i know AZFIT is gonna come in and mention something about olympic lifts... but the guy is talkin about competing in bbing
5'11'' and 180lbs is decent... but my point is he could prob be alot bigger with a better routine |
If you cut out all the time most people spend between sets, going to get a drink, resting, etc, the amount of time you're actually lifting is only 15-20 minutes. If you cut out all the rest 20 minutes might be all you need.
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I don't know why i'm even trying to argue this poing... 20 min twice per week is not enough time to maximize hypertrophy no matter what intensity your working at rest time is important when you training for hypertrophy, if your hitting set after set with 30 second rest intervals, your not going to have the gas to bang out heavy reps if the dude wants any chance at competing then he needs to incorporate a traditional bodybuilding routine... not this goofy 20 min HIT bullshit |
Why is it not enough time? Im asking a serious question? What exactly does it take to produce hypertrophy?
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Mar 17 2008, 11:12 PM) | | QUOTE (yeashescool @ Mar 17 2008, 04:00 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Mar 17 2008, 09:48 AM) | | QUOTE (yeashescool @ Mar 15 2008, 08:58 PM) | | QUOTE (Younggunz @ Mar 15 2008, 08:51 PM) | | QUOTE (Roids @ Mar 15 2008, 12:04 PM) | | Pretty jack'd. How much do you whey? |
I only use whey protein with breakfast and post workouts. I currently hit the weights once every 3-4 days for about 15 minutes, so I use about 30 grams of whey a day aside from lifting days. On those days, I use about 90 grams. As you can tell, I'm a huge Heavy Duty advocate. |
am i reading this right....... u only hit the weights for 15mins? |
If you're lifting balls to the wall 15-20 minutes is all you need.
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so what would a typical routine besides the one u already mentioned look like? |
Look up crossfit.com. Try one of their workouts of the day, see what you think. |
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 | QUOTE (MoVin_Weight @ Mar 18 2008, 10:17 PM) | 3-5 sets of 8-12 reps at 70-80% of maxium weight per excercise, and approx 6-10 sets per muscle group
In order to achieve that, you need adequate rest periods in between sets... roughly 2-3min
It's simple mathematics... Hypothetically We will say that each set including rest periods will take approx. 3 min... SO after 3 sets of squats, he has already used up 9min... THEN after 3-4 sets of lets say Bench, his 20 min are up
now he's off for 3-4 days before he's back in the gym to hit back annd shoulders... where once again he has time for 1 back excercise, and 1 shoulder excercise
Will he induce hypertrophy following the routine... yes, but not nearly as much as if he were to add another 20-30min to the routine and incorporate a few more lifts
Now i'm sure he is hitting alot more sets than i mentioned because he is cutting way down on his rest time, and probly cruising from set to set... but that only means that he is not fully recovering between sets, and not lifting at 70-80% of his maximum weight....
I could bench 135lbs for 10 reps every 30 seconds for 20 min... but i'm not gonna get any bigger doing it |
But who says you need to do that much work to get maximal hypertrophy?
Instead of benching 135 for ten reps, why not do 285 for 3 reps?
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Mar 19 2008, 10:37 AM) | | 10 minutes might not be enough, but 20-30 minutes certainly can be. Many top lifters in the world will work lift for 20-30 minutes top, same with many elite combat operators. |
Lifters meaning olympic lifters? I think 90% of the people here are interested in muscle growth so I don't think anyone really cares about lifters. This is a bodybuilding forum.
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