Pre cut pics

My chest is definitely not a strong point... dunno what to do about it so i try not to let it get to me. I think my delts overpower it too and isn't helping its cause.

Currently I am 5'8 214lbs bodyfat around 9-10 I would think. I'll update a link to my contest journal in my sig, it has all my stats and I will probably be updating it more frequently as I get closer to the comp. I have never really cut, nor tried to be around 4% bf (my goal for the comp) so I don't know what I will weigh on show day.

My delts definitely over power my chest, but I think they are pretty proportioned to my arms personally. I work my calves a lot.. prolly 3 days a week and have made some huge progress on them the passed 3 months. Can't figure out why my chest wont grow... genetics i guess. Every chest day I work it just as hard as everything else, and the next day it cramps easily and is always tender so I know its growing but just does so slowly.

Yea, but I am using compounds that are pretty strong, and if I nail my diet it is possible I actually gain some muscle in the next 8 or so weeks. And I am not sure how much water I will lose the last couple days dehydrating, it is all gonna be trial and error at this point as it is my first contest. I want to get below 198 for the contest because I would be a VERY thick light heavyweight, and if I come in around 205 I will be a medium sized heavyweight. Dunno, all guesswork at this point.

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Noted, and thanks man.

The problem with doing that is it takes away the appearance of a smaller waist, which is a great thing to have. but on the ab and thigh it is important.

You from out here in CA?

Also, what is that little mass under your pec (visible under your right pec) in the first few pics? I've got kinda the same thing, but I just thought it was a buildup of chicken skin and beer.

Thanks Man!

lmao

Naw he was on a few weeks ago, being a homo as usual.

Lol you are so gay. I deadlift as much as Phil Heath and Dennis Wolf. next question?

Looking huge Vap!

lmao

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

youre so fuckin hot mannnnn

Thanks babe, but I already sent you this via e-mail. or was that the fully nude one?I am sure it is burned into your mind LOL.

I been doing tons of front squats and dumbbell lunges lately. Then 25 or so rep leg press with minimal rest. Burns like a mofo but feels great the next day (in a bad way i guess). Heavy squats work to

thanks man... ill have to try some front squats again... im thinking of alternating every week. heavy squats one week and front squats and leg presses the next. good plan?

I've noticed they do a number on my spinae erectors. Feels awesome the next day, oh yea, and your obliques. Good shit man, switch it up a bit and you'd be surprised how your body reacts.

thanks bro. the help is much appreciated.

Got to #1 somehow haha.


http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/

Just checked it out. No wonder, you're showing off the junk. All the girls (and most guys over there) are getting all hot and horny for you.

he must have liked the muscle bear attention

lmao. sucks dude

Thanks man, I agree on the calves 100% and have been working on them 3 days a week but as for the peak on bicep my arms weren't supinated inward enough to peak them. You can see a better peak in my newer pics. Thanks for comments though.

lmfao

lmao

Seriously dude

You know how I know youre gay?

Werd! Cant argue with that!

lol no, just didnt expect first thing in the am to see some near wangage happenin lol. But I will give you this, you are lookin pretty big.

Oh don't even think I wont post more LOL.

Its that what you say when a girl is shocked at your dick size?

I hear that man, but since I started doing 320 IU hcg EoD my nuts have been quite the handful. Plus my hoe gave me some FAT blue balls the other day and they swelled up so bad, actually felt like i was natty again

I love when midgets talk shit

Do you drive a jacked up truck too?

Fair enough! I wish i was as jacked as you!

Yea I do, its jacked because I put a real lift kit on it and not a havoc one.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA now that was funny. Now that one sounded like it came from the mouth of a 3rd grader, just youre shorter.

so what are u like the tall kid in class?

Ya you can definitely call me a midget man lol. You got a fucking foot on me i think.

Just about.

Haha, thanks...now to just get as wide as I am tall.

Jacked and tan, here I come!!!

The shit talking is hilarious

lol

Taking some wednesday, going to do a test run at how I will look on stage (tanned, dehydrated, carbed up, pumped etc). I only gave myself 8 weeks to get ready for the Contra Costa so I don't think I'll be where I want to be for that one but the California State I should be a little leaner.

You got that from "The Pursuit of Happiness" didn't you

With 3 weeks till go time. Pull out the stops. Haven't seen the lower body conditioning, but certainly give it your all.

Doing a few shows is always good particularly when getting started so you can tweak things show to show and learn. Give 150% these last few weeks!

lol, that was pretty funny.

Nice edit.

rotf.

Thanks for answering.

He's in the moment brah-

Ripping it up- good job

oustanding work bro. Lean and huge.
You're gonna go places in life, im tellin ya. Good luck with that show.

wow.

ya vap your lats are so small. shoulders too.

animal are u fuckin serious?

why would u ask how he feels about his health?

What the fuck does it matter to you why I ask anything anywhere around here?

Please remove your anus from Vap's cock... the rampant cock riding has me concerned.

I think the lats look fine. Only thing I see that could come up to match would be the chest. It's a tough call, though. Maybe the traps?

I think it is a very good question. If you think I'm trying to bait him into some "drugs are bad, mmkay" thing, you are sorely mistaken. Recreational drug/AAS use is one thing... it has its consequences. I was curious as to his long-term thoughts on the subject considering the amount of gear it will take to go Pro.

Please, let him answer if he wishes. As much of a great spokesperson as you are, I don't care for your opinion on the matter as you have expressed no intention of being a professional bodybuilder.

I agree my chest is behind, not much I can do with it though, delts just keep growing making them look small

I never plan to do anything ridiculous (in my eyes anyway) and have my blood tested a few times a year and so far so good. I honestly think that a lot of pros don't have to abuse substances to get where they are. A lot of it has to do with genetics but mainly work ethic + time and smart cycling.

That's a horrible problem to have.

Thanks man, wish I could borrow your bi's for a month lol.

Have you seen anyone professionally regarding bodybuilding (diet, training, AAS, etc.)? Or have you been "winging it"?

wingin it lol. Trying to read as much as I can and see what works for me. Not expecting to win these competitions but I want to get an idea at what I need to do in the future to win.

Here are the competitors of the Contra Costa, you can select the years and check em all out.

http://www.graphicmuscle.net/Lindsay/event.aspx?event=Contra+Costa&year=2007&eventclass=Men


Here is the same thing for California State.

http://www.graphicmuscle.net/Lindsay/event.aspx?event=California+State&year=2007&eventclass=Men


I woke up at 196 today, so odds are I can make the <198 light heavyweight cut off and I'm pretty confident I'll be the most massive in that division.

Cool. Have you looked into seeing a 'posing coach'?

I wasnt too impressed with the California Pics from 2007. Id say you look better than nearly all the lightheavy weights!

I should call this one guy local, he judges the contra costa and helps people with posing/diets. I just don't got $ :/

Hey, don't talk trash. I was spot on. Azfit coached me the whole way.

Better get out there on that corner and make that money.

Sorry dude! Your jacked as hell!

this guy never should have made it past pre judging. From what ive seen you prolly only have 1 maybe 2 decent competetors.

Do it. Go see someone to get their opinion on posing. Posing and presentation can make a HUGE difference, particularly when its close.

Expect freaks to show up because it often happens regardless of the competition last year. Heck, and you live in Cali too.

Your upper body is certainly dialing in nicely. Nice work! Wheels make a man, so hopefully they are shredding up nicely too. I know you're quad strong.

Ya I try flexing my hams but the definition just isn't there yet lol. Here is me 5.5 weeks ago just to see what I've done so far.



Can't believe i had that much fat on me, so weird

I think that is due to lighting because in some of the pics it looks like the right arm is less tan than the left arm.

Yeah, not to mention I stated that backwards... based on the first back double bi shot, it looked like his RIGHT bi was bigger than the left.


I suck at life.

What city you in man? and you for sure should do a competition, just diet down it should be fun. No idea how I will do, just doing it for experience and hopefully place well.

I've been dieting for months. Leanest I have been in a long time. Somewhere around 6%. When I can I will post a pic.

Fremont

6% thats pretty impressive! What weight are you? Im sure you're around the 200lbs mark?

Weighing in the AM I just came in at 212

you've got good quad sweep and shoulder development... but you need over all thickness... but for your age its good... I would do some major bulking after your contest.

hit the basics and thicken up.

Thanks man, it was definitely a good time and learned a lot. I could have TOTALLY went lighter, might have lost a bit more muscle but conditioning is what wins these for sure. I would almost bet anything if I dieted down to 186 or so I could have taken 3rd. My leg mass was some of the best on the stage, and if I pulled all the fat off of em they would look awesome.

Ya hams for sure, and calves. I want to grow everywhere but some things need to catch up. The next two years should help fill me out quite a bit.

Thanks nig, it is also a very humbling experience... specially shaking Cutler's hand lol! You really don't appreciate how big he is until you see him in person, seriously the guy is a TANK. he is 325 lbs and only an inch taller than me. Mind blowing. Motivated me even more seeing him.

Ya, all the back shots I didn't work on too much to be honest. Plus I need to get more mass on my hammies and we also store the most fat there so my conditioning wasn't doing me any favors. My next competition is going to get all my attention and time, it should be the beginning of turning a hobby into a career hopefully. Time will tell but if I keep up my progress I think I can be competing in nationals as a heavyweight by the time I'm 25.

I'm just getting around to this thread now, BTW you look shredded on stage, comp was defn stiff...share some knowledge man! What was your diet like during the 7 wk prep? Supplementation? Routine? Leg mass actually looks better than some of the other guys on stage, calves are always a bitch. Once you figure out how to get them to blow up...let us know. My hams and quads dwarf my cavles no matter how much heavy work I put them through. I've heard that hopping up and down off platforms with ankle weights is a good way to get them poppin, but haven't tried it yet. Anyways, congrats on your first comp, you got balls bro!

Just getting around to seeing these pics. you looked insanely jacked up there. like you said its all a learning experience for next time. man at your age you got nothing but time on your side.

which one of these dudes won? I bet it was that big muhfucka on the far right.

anyway whats your next cycle gonna look like? gear wise that is.

Yea that guy looks huge! The guy at the far left looks like he's trying to drop a deuce in that pic!

Naw that big guy got like 8th I think but he was damn huge. He weigh in at 201 then was like "fuck" and ran off to drop some weigh, came back at 198 and made it lol... Learned a lot at this show, definitely worth while if you plan on competing ever, don't worry about placing just go in it to learn.

Also, the guy to my left (4th from left) won the show and the overall, and the guy to my right got 2nd. Boy do I love being in between the two most conditioned guys on the stage lol. Nice guys though.

lmao

jerking off counts as a pump baby

well stop cybering with me then.

I was eating the Smuckers brand natty PB... good stuff. But, the Skippy... it's just sooo much better.

that smuckers natural is absolutely amazing, BJ's has the two pack for like 6 bucks


doesnt the skippy natural have added stuff n it like malto?

Nope. It's peanuts, salt, palm oil, sugar.

Smuckers is just peanuts and salt.

edit: ROFL @ randy

big talk from a little man... well except your fat lovehandles porky. You have to lie to yourself to feel good or what? After 7 years with my girl I realized I didnt want to marry her and we split, and being jacked in a club is like fishing with dynamite, but i don't expect someone as small and blubbed as you to understand so it's ok. And 5'8 is a midget huh? well good job insulting half this board lol. You bench more than me? man now I know you are fucking high, post a video of your best 3-4 rep max and I'll throw it up 10-12 times minimum or I'll paypal you $50.


Since you guys are SOOO interested in my cock, heres a pic. If you want the un edited one (which I know you do joe since you keep talking about my cock bra) just PM me I'll hook it up and you can jack off to me all you want faggot. Just dont show it to your g/f, she'll be thinking of me everytime she has to fuck your fat small ass.

thanks holmes, I lift like 5 days a week or so. studying accounting right now.

guess what i did to your picture last night.




































JK not big.