Progress over the last 7 months

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Posted by: vanthehentai Mar 7 2008, 01:08 AM

Hey guys, I've been working out for about 8 years but i've never really been a gym rat. As of 7 months ago I've fallen in love with bodybuilding. I've learned a lot and have so much more to learn and I'm eagerly awaiting the lessons. I had a pretty shitty base to start off with, my body fat has always been pretty high and I'm a hard gainer on top of that which kind of doesn't make sense. Anyhow here go the pics. I'm not at a point where I'm proud of my body yet, but I can say that at least I know I'm moving forward.

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That was me this july that just passed. I got serious about lifting in August.

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That was me in Dec, I did a three week Sdrol cycle in September.

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I took that one at the end of January after a 3 week Sdrol and Havoc

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February after PCT

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Today. It's been a month after pct from my last sdrol cycle and I've put on a few more pounds. I still have a long way to go. I'm thinking of doing my first real cycle in March. I have to see we're I'm at then. My diet is finally up to par. And my training has been solid. I think I've made more composition changes in the month following the Sdrol than when I was actually on it so I don't think I'll do another PH cycle ever again. I started out at 165 in August and I'm at a stable 180 now. I would like another ten pounds of muscle and to be at about 10% body fat within the next year.

I want to thank everyone on this forum, you guys have been great, thanks for answering my questions and being patient with me, Thanks for making me laugh time and time again, I wouldn't have accomplished half of my progress without this forum and muscle and fitness. Oh and in particular I want to thank TypeRob whom I've pestered too many times now.

Posted by: Jayv24 Mar 7 2008, 06:40 AM

Good shit, lookin swolle. Particularly in the upper arm/chest area.

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Mar 7 2008, 10:19 AM

Skinny people doing 'roids.

You have progressed quite nicely. But, fankly, you should lay off the 'roids. And, superdrol is a steroid, not a pro-hormone.

Posted by: vanthehentai Mar 7 2008, 11:13 AM

Thanks guys

, and I do feel like I'm jumping the gun with the juice. You know how it is though, I feel like I've been training so hard day in and day out and it's hard to keep in perspective the fact that my training and diet has only been solid for about 7 months. I feel like I've put so much hard work into it already and I should be further along. I know this isn't true, I know that it takes years to build a physique to be proud of, I know eventually I'll be there, It's just that when I look in the mirror I don't see my progress, I see more work to be done, and I would like to get it done sooner rather than later.

Posted by: MoVin_Weight Mar 7 2008, 12:29 PM

good progress for 7 months, prob didn't need the 2 cycles that early but it still took the hard work and dedication so congrats

Posted by: Doogsy Mar 7 2008, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Mar 7 2008, 12:40 PM)

Good shit, lookin swolle. Particularly in the upper arm/chest area.

Definately some good progress! Keep it up!

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Mar 7 2008, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (vanthehentai @ Mar 7 2008, 11:13 AM)

Thanks guys

I know what you mean about wanting results faster... we all want immediate results. But, the body just doesn't naturally work that way. Even if diet and training are 'perfect', it will still take quite a while to get the 'jacked' look. Hell, I get jealous as hell when I see someone blow up when they get on the sauce. F' YOU VAP!!

But, it's not just about big muscles... you must also worry about the supporting structure... tendons, ligaments, connective tissue, etc. Those must also adapt. When you start putting on mass at an accelerated rate using androgens, these things may not develop as fast and you can look forward to possible injury. This is why I think iit is important for people to have a good natural base before jumping on the 'roids.

Posted by: Vaporize Mar 7 2008, 03:44 PM

QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Mar 7 2008, 03:04 PM)

QUOTE (vanthehentai @ Mar 7 2008, 11:13 AM)

Thanks guys

Lol! sorry

I agree though even if that makes me a hypocrite. Lets say for a second that I did NOT want to compete at a pro level in the future, I would bet that I would have been more patient, not saying I would be natural though

. But I know I have somewhat limited time on what I need to accomplish with my physique if I ever want to become a top tier bodybuilder (someday hopefully..) and pick up a good sponsor etc.

But remember, you only have one body... take care of it.

Posted by: DownTown Mar 7 2008, 04:16 PM

Stick with creatine and protien for a while, in 7 months even without sd or gear you would have been close to the same point. My initial 25, 30 pounds came quick as shit. Creatine will help you get results, i havent done any ph's in the past 6 months and i have put on a solid 25lbs and im pretty much back to the shape i was in before i had cancer and all ive been using as a constant is 6 star creatine. You have done a great job on ur self but if you keep making those mass gains with ph/aas then your going to start getting some joint pain, cuz the rest of your body isnt gaining as fast as your muscles are. Good luck, and great job.

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Mar 7 2008, 08:41 PM

QUOTE (Vaporize @ Mar 7 2008, 03:44 PM)

QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Mar 7 2008, 03:04 PM)

QUOTE (vanthehentai @ Mar 7 2008, 11:13 AM)

Thanks guys

Lol! sorry

IIRC, you had a pretty good base to start with. And, as you said, you may be doing this for a living.

Posted by: Vaporize Mar 7 2008, 09:50 PM

sorry to burst your bubble lol... I'm a horrible influence I know

Posted by: typeRob Mar 7 2008, 10:55 PM

lookin good bro, you can obviously tell the progress youve made. arms, chest and shoulders all look much bigger. cant tell about back or legs though.

how old are you by the way? if you think youre ready for AAS then by all means go for it. but just remember once you come over to the darkside theres no turning back. youll never wanna be off cycle once youre on.

i started early too, maybe not as early as some people (vap)
oh and vap is definitely a bad influence, hes inspired several people on this forum to run AAS including myself

if you decide on running that cycle, good luck. if you got any other questions for me bro dont hesitate to PM me. not a problem at all.

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Mar 8 2008, 12:25 AM

QUOTE (Vaporize @ Mar 7 2008, 09:50 PM)

sorry to burst your bubble lol... I'm a horrible influence I know

I thought there were other pics (I think we busted your balls for wearing your boxer briefs or something).

But, yeah, Vap... think of the children!

Posted by: vanthehentai Mar 8 2008, 02:50 AM

Thanks again guys.

I can't believe how much positive feedback and encouragement I've gotten from this forum over the past few months. I just wish I had been as dedicated and as informed as I am now , years ago. Oh and in response to your question TypeRob, I'm 25. Oh and Downtown, about the creatine, I recently switched to monohydrate, I used to use ethyl ester from BN, I opted to go cheaper and I think it's working better than the old stuff I used to take. I almost feel as jacked as when I was taking Superdrol. Then again my diet has come a long way so that's probably definitely and influence too. Anyhow thanks guys.

I've only been on this forum a few months but I definitely know that I'll be a regular around these parts for years to come.

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Mar 8 2008, 08:59 PM

QUOTE (vanthehentai @ Mar 8 2008, 02:50 AM)

Thanks again guys.

I've only been on this forum a few months but I definitely know that I'll be a regular around these parts for years to come.

When I improved my diet, I made better gains than when I ran S1+ (on a less than stellar diet).

Diet is THE toughest thing about bodybuilding, hands down. I used to try to 'out-train' my shitty diet. That approach left me pretty stagnant.

Now, with a much improved diet, I don't even do cardio and have been recomping very nicely. I'm down to ~225 from 240.

Posted by: vanthehentai Mar 22 2008, 01:19 PM

Here's an update. I took these this week.

I've been trying to drop my bodyfat a little bit. I'm pretty happy with the results. I think with my diet (cycling carbs, 5 days very low 2 days normal) I should have a six pack in a few weeks. I'm going to do a very lean bulk for a month or two after that. Nothing crazy, just going to introduce more carbs back into my diet and eat more on my training days.

Taken on 03/20/08

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Posted by: DownTown Mar 22 2008, 02:00 PM

Legs are looking really good bro, keep it up. I would hit the back a little harder though, but still, your doing an outstanding job.

Posted by: JW32Hoops Mar 22 2008, 02:17 PM

Lookin good bro, arms and legs especially. Keep it up!

Posted by: cc-10 Mar 22 2008, 04:08 PM

keep up the work bro

Posted by: potential87 Mar 22 2008, 05:53 PM

lookin good, keep it up. great improvements

Posted by: vanthehentai Apr 5 2008, 12:39 AM

Here's an update.

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Posted by: Doogsy Apr 5 2008, 05:22 AM

Good stuff! Legs are looking strong!

Posted by: Kevin43403 Apr 5 2008, 05:55 PM

Yea, legs are definitely a strong point.

Posted by: TittyDance May 5 2008, 01:10 PM

I would say legs are def. your strong point. You have made some huge progress from the first pic on, keep hitting it hard man. Lookin good.

Posted by: Ed88630 May 9 2008, 08:47 AM

wow big improvement in your upper chest....that's one of my weakest points what exercises did you do to develop it?

Posted by: vanthehentai May 9 2008, 10:12 AM

At the time of this pic I was doing a lot of dumbell work. Usually doing flat, then incline, then weighted dips for lower pec. Followed by one or two isolation moves such as cable flies or cross overs. I mix up my rep range every few weeks, I'll do heavy sets (6 reps) with a burn out set on the 4th (25 reps to get blood in the muscle) for a few weeks. Than once that doesn't get me sore anymore I'll switch over to an oxford pyramid (start light 12 reps and work your way to a heavy set). Then when that doesn't do the trick anymore I'll do a reverse pyramid and start heavy and go light. I'll always do an intensity technique unless I'm feeling like i've been over training. If I don't have a spot I either do a rest pause set on my last set of a given exercise, or a drop set. If I have a spot I'll do negatives or forced reps. And I try to alternate between dumbells and barbells every month or so. If your chest is your weak point I'd suggest doing a split that you hit it twice a week. And if you're dieting make chest day your cheat day where you eat more because it'll grow better.

Posted by: Jayv24 May 9 2008, 11:52 PM

Have you gained any weight yet from your test cycle van?

Any sides to speak of? updates?

Posted by: goodskie May 10 2008, 12:07 AM

gaining weight on test is for noobs

Posted by: vanthehentai May 10 2008, 12:26 AM

I'm up 10 pounds and I'm starting my 6th week. Weight gain has def slowed down a little. i kind of feel like I'm stuck at around 185. I'm hoping to hit 190 by the end of the cycle. I haven't posted progress pics because I feel a little blubbed. Nothing major just not as much definition in my abs as before my cycle. My strength in everything has gone way up and I can train longer and harder than normal with little to no days off from the gym. As far as sides go, nothing. I was bloated but I'm taking .5mgs Adex everyday and it's keeping the bloat down to a min. I had one really moody day last week where I felt like I was a chick on the verge of tears all day, but other than that I feel great. Besides injection pain that is. I gained an inch in my hams and quads. 1.5 inches on my chest and back (measured under my armpits) and about 1 inch on my shoulders. So I'm happy so far.

Posted by: goodskie May 10 2008, 12:43 AM

good shit. did u kickstart? if not i'd end with an oral to keep the cycle strong unless you're comming off soon and its too late

Posted by: Jayv24 May 10 2008, 02:27 AM

Yup, i know what you mean van. By week 4-6 i looked blubbed. There was one morning i was standing in the mirror and i couldnt believe wtf i was seeing.

It looked rediculous. I actually regretted doing gear at that point. i was so bloated, no abs, face round as hell.

Then i started the tren

That shit is awesome. No regrets.

Im still holding water weight now, but not nearly as bad. The Halodrol helped too i suppose.

Are you using any diureticss? Try some high doses of Vitamin C with green tea/caffeine to help cut some water out.

Goods....i dont think i could of lost weight on test if i tried. Have those scientist come to your house to study you yet?

Posted by: vanthehentai May 10 2008, 08:08 AM

I didn't kickstart, I'm I'm just starting my 6th week of a 12 week cycle. If I were so inclined I could prob run something like oral winny for the last 4 weeks. I'm thinking about it. I'm worried about liver toxicity though. I was probably just going to throw in some clen in the last two weeks and lean out a bit. Any other suggestions? Dbol seems like so much fun but I'll probably use that to kickstart my next cycle. Maybe I could throw in a ph like halo or havoc for the last 4 weeks? Overall though I'm happy with the results of my first cycle. Pinning is kind of fun, when I don't mess it up, and I definitely feel a difference. I'm 185 and I can now rep out 275 about 6 times on a bench, and I'm leg pressing around 9 plates on each side for a decent amount of reps too. I feel really strong. Although the one thing that's starting to get old is eating so much. I spent a few hours at the mall yesterday with my girl and I stopped to eat 3 times in a few hours.... I was in bed with her watching a movie last night and like half way through it I was like, "I feel like my stomach's eating itself I need to make some chicken...." It's getting kind of inconvenient.

Posted by: vanthehentai May 10 2008, 11:52 AM

Here's a pic I took today. I'll probably post better pics in a few weeks. But overall I'm up 10lbs from the last pic I posted.

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Posted by: goodskie May 10 2008, 12:56 PM

van, winny isnt gunna give u "liver suicide" unless you have a pre-existing condition. just dont overdo orals. save d-bol for a kickstart.

jayv, lmao, the docs just came. they said i'm not big or lean. i started at 270 so losing weight wasnt too hard. i went from 6k cals a day to 3k with cardio and way less carbs. i also carry 200lb docks 5-7 days a week for a job. burn mad cals doing that. however, my biggest weekpoint right now is my tan and my hair. i'm gunna need to go tanning and get 50lbs of gel if i wanna be full out guidoed for this summer

Posted by: Jayv24 May 10 2008, 02:21 PM

Looking huge van. very noticable gains in your shoulders, traps, arms. Looks like you're enjoying the cycle.

You can run whatever in the end. of course, there are those who are gonna say "first cycle, use test only" but whatever. I had good results with multiple compounds.

Planning my next cycle as well. This was all a learning experience far as im concerned.

So goods, what you're saying is....You dont even workout. You just get totally jacked and tan from carpentry and deck building? Outstanding.

So Jesus must of been jacked and tan as well i suppose since he basically did the same stuff as you.

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Posted by: goodskie May 10 2008, 04:27 PM

guess what i'm not big or lean so in 5 weeks i'm lowering my test to 250mgs for 4 weeks to cruise then running sust, NPP and d-bol for a 10 weeker making my first cycle 30 some weeks. i'm not kidding either. none of us even look like we workout and we need to take this budybuilding game more seriously if we want that disirable physique we all long for and gears is the only way there

Posted by: Jayv24 May 10 2008, 05:36 PM

When XL shirts become snug and little kids stare and point at how freakishly huge i am, then i'll know im good.

right now, i agree. im small, weak and at times i just stand in the mirror and tell myself off.

I say to myself...."you dont even look like you workout, you suck, i hate you".

Then i go smash some more weights.

Posted by: Arnoldclone May 10 2008, 05:51 PM

QUOTE (Jayv24 @ May 10 2008, 05:36 PM)

I say to myself...."you dont even look like you workout, you suck, i hate you".

Then i go smash some more weights.

I do the same

Posted by: vanthehentai May 11 2008, 12:41 AM

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6389/050923man3wv.jpg

What kind of cycle would that take?

Posted by: willpiazza31 May 11 2008, 06:59 AM

QUOTE (vanthehentai @ May 11 2008, 01:41 AM)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6389/050923man3wv.jpg

What kind of cycle would that take?

Just some Havoc.

Posted by: goodskie May 11 2008, 01:30 PM

QUOTE (willpiazza31 @ May 11 2008, 06:59 AM)

QUOTE (vanthehentai @ May 11 2008, 01:41 AM)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6389/050923man3wv.jpg

What kind of cycle would that take?

Just some Havoc.

pusle it it tho or liver suicide

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jun 9 2008, 02:00 PM

QUOTE (goodskie @ May 11 2008, 01:30 PM)

QUOTE (willpiazza31 @ May 11 2008, 06:59 AM)

QUOTE (vanthehentai @ May 11 2008, 01:41 AM)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6389/050923man3wv.jpg

What kind of cycle would that take?

Just some Havoc.

pusle it it tho or liver suicide

And on the days inbetween pulse some Phera. Since your pulsing both PHs, your liver will be fine.

Posted by: tomtomtom Jun 26 2008, 10:50 AM

nice pics..