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Posted: Aug 31 2004, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE (rawdawg @ Aug 31 2004, 09:35 AM)
Different strokes for different folks... I've been taking NO2 for almost 45 days and it works phenominally for me. Granted, I do have some workout partners that only saw minimal gains on it. But to date, I have gained 17 pounds and I am in great shape. Just because it does not work on some people does not mean that it does not work on others. Everyone's body chemistry is different and may have various reactions to various supplements. I have not tried the others, but I plan to.

No one ever said NO2 doesn't work. NO2 is arginine, and arginine works.

We were just debating if it is worth the cost. Arginine is a good supplement.

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Posted: Aug 31 2004, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE (Scivation @ Aug 30 2004, 10:14 PM)
Wrong--the studies show otherwise.

It's all in the marketing.

I thought I remember a study that was done where they tested to see if this physer 3 delivery system did anything. Studies came back that it did nothing significant to increase delivery in any way. Was it you who posted it? I'm trying to find the damn thing.

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QUOTE (rawdawg @ Aug 31 2004, 09:35 AM)
Different strokes for different folks... I've been taking NO2 for almost 45 days and it works phenominally for me. Granted, I do have some workout partners that only saw minimal gains on it. But to date, I have gained 17 pounds and I am in great shape. Just because it does not work on some people does not mean that it does not work on others. Everyone's body chemistry is different and may have various reactions to various supplements. I have not tried the others, but I plan to.

What do you mean by that?. We are ALL HUMAN and all human bodies work exactly the same. Its the mind that is different. The only reason people get different results on the same product is because there exercise routines, diets, etc. are different...Not there body. All humans are the same, unless your saying someone some people are alien?
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QUOTE (weeviekins2000 @ Aug 31 2004, 04:43 PM)
QUOTE (rawdawg @ Aug 31 2004, 09:35 AM)
Different strokes for different folks... I've been taking NO2 for almost 45 days and it works phenominally for me. Granted, I do have some workout partners that only saw minimal gains on it. But to date, I have gained 17 pounds and I am in great shape. Just because it does not work on some people does not mean that it does not work on others. Everyone's body chemistry is different and may have various reactions to various supplements. I have not tried the others, but I plan to.

What do you mean by that?. We are ALL HUMAN and all human bodies work exactly the same. Its the mind that is different. The only reason people get different results on the same product is because there exercise routines, diets, etc. are different...Not there body. All humans are the same, unless your saying someone some people are alien?

Yeah, dude, that's what I am implying some of us are aliens. So we are all the same, huh? Is that why some prescription drugs work for some and not for others? whether they be drugs for the CNS, ES, CVS? If everything worked for everybody then we'd all be taking the same shit.
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Posted: Sep 30 2004, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (beefcake @ Aug 31 2004, 01:56 PM)
QUOTE (Scivation @ Aug 30 2004, 10:14 PM)
Wrong--the studies show otherwise.

It's all in the marketing.

I thought I remember a study that was done where they tested to see if this physer 3 delivery system did anything. Studies came back that it did nothing significant to increase delivery in any way. Was it you who posted it? I'm trying to find the damn thing.

Yes, that was my post.

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Man, all you guy's livin in the past. Welcome to the world of Citrulline Malate.

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Pump Tech was really good for me. I know you all hate MT. But for real, if U got tha $$, check it out
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QUOTE (dwm230000 @ Aug 30 2004, 09:50 PM)
Did anyone notice that NO2 changed the name of their delivery system to phylex9.  I don't know if this is new or they just changed the name.

emailed mri should be getting answer this week on the difference and will it actually work now.

I still perfer nitrovol. As it has critiline malate and argnine and some dilivery system which looks decent in it as well. I tried pump tech got nothin out of it but 80 bucks out v12 nothin no2 from mri 2 botltes notthing 160 out. Nitrix and regular largnine 50 out v12 out 60 bucks or so. I want to try orthine but argnine just converts in to orthine if i remember correctly.
cex looks intersting to.
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Posted: Oct 1 2004, 04:35 PM
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Phylex9 is the updated version of Physer3.  Physer 3, although a very effective time release formula, released more arginine during the first hours of each dose, leaving the final hours slightly weaker.  Phylex9 releases equal amounts of arginine throughout the dose.  It is a more stable formula--also patent pending.  Any NO2 with the Phylex9 logo is 3rd generation NO2.  It is superior to any other NO2 formula we've released to date.


I asked what the 1st one was then if the second one had physer3
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Posted: Feb 24 2005, 09:04 PM
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i know this is prolly waaaay off from what you guys are talking about and are prolly waaay bigger than i am, but just out of curiousity if this AAKG would be a good way to go, given the fact that i have been taking the muscle milk. and you seem to know more than the rest of the brain dead guys i talk to, anything would be cool, thanks.
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Gotta give my 2 cents on this one:

When No2 first came out, I wanted to try it but thought it was too expensive and I thought to myself "Physer3 delivery system, that's just marketing BS.” Everyone claims to have a delivery system and most of the time it is BS. So I bought 1 kilo of AAKG base powder from KiloSports, and let me tell ya, it SUCKED ASS, BIG WASTE OF MONEY! 20g a day produced little to no effect.

So then I tried NoX2 by Pinnacle and it actually worked. It gave me lots of endurance during my workouts and a small, but noticeable pump all day long.

I have also tried Syntrax Nitrous (Di arginine malate) and it sucked too.

So the bottom line is that the delivery system is not a marketing ploy. AAKG needs to made into a tablet with some cellulose to slow down it’s absorption.

The price for No2 by MRI is ridiculous and I would never pay that. I would like to try NOW’s AAKG because it is the cheapest and see how it compares to NoX2.
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QUOTE (Medicated Angel @ Aug 27 2004, 11:43 PM)
Tha delivery system is key when dealing with arginine. Its life-span converted to NO in your body is like 3 seconds, unless it has a delivery system. Do tha research on that. NO2 by MRI is a sure thing.

I agree with you about the delivery system. Trying to convince other people who have never used plain AAKG powder and a No2 supplement with a delivery system is pointless though.
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Posted: Feb 26 2005, 08:21 PM
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NO2, and all these nitric oxide products are a waster of money. I've met Ed Byrd and lemme tell ya he's a conniving snake oil salesman, and a fat overweight cocky piece o shit. He reminded me of a used cars salesman! In fact if you check out the Baylor University study conducted on NO2 u'll find that there were NO gains in lean body mass between a group taking NO2 and a placebo group whatsoever. these outlandish claims about "packing on lean mass" are a joke. the only difference was an increase in bench press and vertical leap, but we all know creatine does this already and it's much cheaper. Perpetual pumps my ass, I manage a GNC and I get tons of free samples of Pump tech and NO2, and they all suck. Another study presented at the ACSM also indicated that Arginine supplements actually stunt growth hormone release pre workout! I'd just stay stick w/ the proven supps, Protein, Creatin, Glutamine, and a good multivitamin, and the number 1 supplement is FOOD!
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QUOTE (JianBlze @ Feb 26 2005, 08:21 PM)
NO2, and all these nitric oxide products are a waster of money.  I've met Ed Byrd and lemme tell ya he's a conniving snake oil salesman, and a fat overweight cocky piece o shit.  He reminded me of a used cars salesman!  In fact if you check out the Baylor University study conducted on NO2 u'll find that there were NO gains in lean body mass between a group taking NO2 and a placebo group whatsoever.  these outlandish claims about "packing on lean mass" are a joke.  the only difference was an increase in bench press and vertical leap, but we all know creatine does this already and it's much cheaper.  Perpetual pumps my ass, I manage a GNC and I get tons of free samples of Pump tech and NO2, and they all suck.  Another study presented at the ACSM also indicated that Arginine supplements actually stunt growth hormone release pre workout!    I'd just stay stick w/ the proven supps, Protein, Creatin, Glutamine, and a good multivitamin, and the number 1 supplement is FOOD!

LOL, I heve never met Ed, he may very well be a cocky fat bastard.

Some guys may claim that a No2 supp helped them put on a few pounds of lean mass in a months time, but I found NoX2 to give me a lot of endurance and I like the "pump" feeling it gives. If I would have listened to all the negative posts about NO2, I would have missed out on a supp that I really enjoy taking.

All I can say is try and find a vendor that will refund or exchange product if you are not happy with a AAKG supp. then you can try it risk free.
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Yeah if it works for ya just stick w/ it. Sometime's I feel like a get a pretty good pump goin' when I supplement with these arginine supps but that could just be a placebo effect. Besides the ego boost however, I don't really think they do much in terms of lean mass gains and improving body composition. I can see how they may increase endurance which would be a bonus, but the recent studies shown about it supressing GH release make me wary!
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