hilarious!

well, if you feel safe leaving your safety up to the government... that's your choice. just stating that the post that started this thread would have turned out much differently if it had been you driving that car...

so b/c they were 18 your little argument is flawed.

they were criminals ingaged in violent activities. they died as a result of it. yay for society, now lets take away the guns of those members of society NOT engaged in illegal activity.

how about you put together an argument that is based on reason and logic instead of fear and ignorance... and preferably one that i can't punch a hole in in less than a minute.

Thanks for explaining why my aunt and grandmother are gun owners.

wow. first of all, that is absolutely terrible grammar.

second, you're implying people own/carry guns because they feel inferior?


if anyone on this site has reason to feel inferior, for any reason, it's you. you have a horribly pathetic physique and you come online to argue with people you'll never meet?

do i remember you saying you're some kind of strength training coach?? and you're how old?

Having problems posting here for some reason

40 Reasons for Gun Control


15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons", but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles", because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, finger printing, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over hand guns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc. says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

I agree completely. I used to hunt when I was a kid and my father and I have both owned guns in the past. I don't think guns should be illegal or completely taken away from everyone....I just think it should be extremely hard to get one. There's only one purpose to a gun, and that's to destroy whatever it's pointed at...gotta make sure folks are properly vetted before handing them one, that's all.

I live in New York City and have never thought to myself "If only I had a gun right now...." Except of course while I'm at work.

Sounds familiar......

How is amy argument flawed? My argument was that thousands of innocent people die every year from gunfire, we have by far the highest death rate of any industrialized country due to primarily firearm deaths. That was my argument, what does it matter what age the victims are?

So lets make the problem worse by adding more guns to the area?

What is wrong with my grammar? What does grammar, or physique, or my age have anything to do with the fact that, no one needs an assualt rifle for any reason, other than to feel powerful. I don't have a pathetic hpysiqe, and yes I am a strength coach. But what does any of that have to do with this argument? I'm 6' 200lbs at 8% body fat, if my physique is terrible, than so is yours.

While its true, you can kill someone with any of those objects, its alot easier to kill with a gun. Just look at the homicide rate in the US compared to any other industralized nation.

and now name a single other nation you'd rather live in...

Correlation is Not Causation... even someone with your diminished intellectual capacity knows that. (or at least should)