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Posted: Apr 9 2008, 02:08 PM
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Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder.

i'm sure the cops prevent more crime when they have a pistol in hand. if the cops didnt have guns and neither did the criminal the cops might be in trouble unless they had numbers on their side, more officers on the scene.

I mean come on....pepperspray probably wont do but so much to a deraged crackhead when he's got the idea attacking. plus most cops are weak and flabby.

I never said cops shouldn't have guns, but normal people shoudln't

Wow. Lets depend on a cop entirely to save us from anyone not hopped up on drugs and not wielding more than a pocket knife. blink.gif

Police have no constitutional duty/responsibility to protect individuals
They're at least 3-5 minutes away.
They're much more worried about their safety and well being than they are about a complete strangers.
Very few are good shots, especially in combat.

Um yes, there job is to protect citzens. it even says on there cars "To Protect and Serve"

Wrong buddy.

The supreme court of the United States of America ruled that police have no duty to protect individuals, but only society as a whole. Look it up and educate yourself.

When did they rule that?

1981 I believe.
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Posted: Apr 9 2008, 03:28 PM
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Can you find me a link to the actual ruling? Im curious to read the parameters of it.

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Posted: Apr 9 2008, 05:37 PM
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can we be real for a moment. the USA isnt on track to get rid of all guns from private citizens...just because the UK jumps off a bridge does that mean you will too, hmm?

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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 09:52 PM
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At least seven killed in Tokyo stabbing spree

Well there goes the notion that you need a gun to kill or injure more than one person.
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Posted: Jun 9 2008, 09:56 AM
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No one ever said you need a gun, but it's alot harder to kill multiple people with a knife. The guy also ran the people over with a truck, before stabbing them. I guess we should all carry assualt rifles in case somebody tries to run us over too.

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Posted: Jun 9 2008, 10:02 AM
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you can kill anybody with anything.

doesnt mean you should ban guns.
if someone wanted to kill 10 people, they woulda tried it, with or without a gun.

guns arent dangerous, its the people who use em for bad intentions that are dangerous.

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Oh and he used a truck too. See, guns aren't dangerous. People are.

If you've played GTA before you will see you don't need a gun. Just walk around with a golf club and whack people. laugh.gif


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Posted: Jun 9 2008, 10:12 AM
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guns arent dangerous, its the people who use em for bad intentions that are dangerous.

What about little kids who accidently shoot themselves with guns?

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Posted: Jun 9 2008, 10:14 AM
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guns arent dangerous, its the people who use em for bad intentions that are dangerous.

What about little kids who accidently shoot themselves with guns?

They are idiots that will only fuck up worse if they grew up.

There have been billions of little kids that knew not to mess with guns. Just because there are a few that have died as a result doesn't mean you need to ban them.


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Posted: Jun 9 2008, 10:15 AM
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guns arent dangerous, its the people who use em for bad intentions that are dangerous.

What about little kids who accidently shoot themselves with guns?

Adults fault for not securing the gun. Unless the kid age 3-13 went and purchased it and shot himself- then we're in big trouble

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Posted: Jun 9 2008, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (willpiazza31 @ Jun 9 2008, 10:11 AM)
Oh and he used a truck too. See, guns aren't dangerous. People are.

If you've played GTA before you will see you don't need a gun. Just walk around with a golf club and whack people. laugh.gif

laugh.gif I actually laughed out loud on that one.

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One of my favorite things to do in GTA. Whack whack whack!!

I think bombs are by far the most effective at killing lots of people. You don't need guns. The sanddems are good at that.


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Posted: Jun 9 2008, 10:33 AM
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guns arent dangerous, its the people who use em for bad intentions that are dangerous.

What about little kids who accidently shoot themselves with guns?

yeah but thats the kids curiosity and adults not being responsible enough.

kids do stupid things all the time anyway.
if a kid stuck his tongue into a fan and had his tongue sliced off, would you ban all future fan purchases?

guns arent made with the purpose so it can be used for high school shoot outs or gang violence or w.e
and fans arent made for the purpose for kids to stick their tongues in and get them chopped off.

its just that a few people misuse these things.

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5 die in knife rampage at Chinese police station
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Posted: Jul 2 2008, 10:07 AM
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guns arent dangerous, its the people who use em for bad intentions that are dangerous.

What about little kids who accidently shoot themselves with guns?

yeah but thats the kids curiosity and adults not being responsible enough.

kids do stupid things all the time anyway.
if a kid stuck his tongue into a fan and had his tongue sliced off, would you ban all future fan purchases?

guns arent made with the purpose so it can be used for high school shoot outs or gang violence or w.e
and fans arent made for the purpose for kids to stick their tongues in and get them chopped off.

its just that a few people misuse these things.

I'm sure that will be a small consolation when there dead. Or when kids like Columbine use them to kill other innocent kids. Kids were made for one purpose, and one purpose only, to kill things and people. Comparing them to fans is stupid.

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Posted: Jul 2 2008, 10:21 AM
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guns dont kill people, stupid motha fuckas with guns kill people.

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plus on the flip side...we NEED guns...helps keep the population down. w/o guns we'd be at like 9 billion on the planet and that would suck more then now. gotta keep the death rate up somehow

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True that

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Posted: Jul 2 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (Tswole @ Jul 2 2008, 10:21 AM)
guns dont kill people, stupid motha fuckas with guns kill people.

Excellent quote from Chris Tucker in Money Talks laugh.gif
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